They changed the rule bc Tanking works

[mademan]

How did tanking bring LBJ and AD to the Lakers? Or was there some other reason perhaps?

Free agency brought LeBron to the Lakers. Tanking brought them Anthony Davis.

The plan was to lose enough games in order to acquire enough trade assets in order to get AD.

It worked.

Tanking didnt bring in AD, lol. Many teams had better assets than LA and would likely be willing to give them up for AD, but AD didnt want to go there. LA being in LA is why Lebron and AD are there

[mademan]

And the Sixers are definitely not the fav for finals in East. That title belongs to the Bucks

[iLLmatic860]

That Horfors pick up us huge for Philly. Josh Richardson was also a very underrated move for Sixers.

The player we've seen in the past is definitely a huge pickup. But Horford has a big time injury history and he's 33. Will he make it through the season and still be impactful? Now you got the double wammy of will he be injured or will he be old to worry about.

You can say the same about Marc Gasol to Raps. Imo thats what got them out the east.

Sixers are still a fairly young team. Horford wont even be expected to play as much especially since they already have Tobias and Embiid. Horford will provide great veteran leadership.

[mademan]

The player we've seen in the past is definitely a huge pickup. But Horford has a big time injury history and he's 33. Will he make it through the season and still be impactful? Now you got the double wammy of will he be injured or will he be old to worry about.

You can say the same about Marc Gasol to Raps. Imo thats what got them out the east.

Sixers are still a fairly young team. Horford wont even be expected to play as much especially since they already have Tobias and Embiid. Horford will provide great veteran leadership.

Sixers are missing a scoring wing threat. This is a team who's secondary ball handler/creator is going to be Josh Richardson. Did you ever think he'd be the secondary ball handler of a title team?

[dockingsched]

Lakers signed Luol Deng and Mozgov to multiple year deals in 2016, and signed Lebron 2years later in 2018. So they tanked for what? 1 year.

People need to differentiate between tanking and just being terrible at building a team.

[iLLmatic860]

The player we've seen in the past is definitely a huge pickup. But Horford has a big time injury history and he's 33. Will he make it through the season and still be impactful? Now you got the double wammy of will he be injured or will he be old to worry about.

You can say the same about Marc Gasol to Raps. Imo thats what got them out the east.

Sixers are still a fairly young team. Horford wont even be expected to play as much especially since they already have Tobias and Embiid. Horford will provide great veteran leadership.

Sixers are missing a scoring wing threat. This is a team who's secondary ball handler/creator is going to be Josh Richardson. Did you ever think he'd be the secondary ball handler of a title team?

Name a more stacked team in the east than the Sixers

[mademan]

You can say the same about Marc Gasol to Raps. Imo thats what got them out the east.

Sixers are still a fairly young team. Horford wont even be expected to play as much especially since they already have Tobias and Embiid. Horford will provide great veteran leadership.

Sixers are missing a scoring wing threat. This is a team who's secondary ball handler/creator is going to be Josh Richardson. Did you ever think he'd be the secondary ball handler of a title team?

Name a more stacked team in the east than the Sixers

Overall talent, Sixers probably come out ahead, but they have no real iso player, weak spacing and are FC heavy. They also lean heavily on Embiid, who's a walking injury risk. Healthy in the playoffs, i think theyre still dogs to the Bucks, unless Simmons comes back with a jumpshot

[jirrit]

Sixers got Noel, Okafor & Fultz. Lakers got D’angelo, Ingram and Ball.

[Capn'O]

The only thing that works is having a good FO ( and a little bit of luck). Tanking is just a way to improve your team, without a good FO and/ or luck you will not get anywhere.

Correct. Location location location helps too.

[JellosJigglin]

Lakers signed Luol Deng and Mozgov to multiple year deals in 2016, and signed Lebron 2years later in 2018. So they tanked for what? 1 year.

People need to differentiate between tanking and just being terrible at building a team.

Forgot the year, but remember when Jordan Clarkson and Nick Young were the anti-tank commanders and winning meaningless games at the end of the season? Hitting game-winners. I think it was Lou Williams who said "I'm not about to let someone else take my job". The Lakers were doing everything in their power to NOT tank. They could've finished even lower a few of those years, and it took luck with the ping pong balls to even keep their picks.

There is a difference between losing games and outright tanking.

[RyderMike]

Lakers didn't get good by tanking/sucking. Lakers got good by being in Los Angeles. Lebron wasn't tanking. Neither was AD.

You can say that by being bad they got good assets, but AD was so adamant about going to LA, that no other team was really bidding against them. Had they had worse assets (by not being as good) they would've just sent those an maybe a couple extra picks.

[iLLmatic860]

Sixers are missing a scoring wing threat. This is a team who's secondary ball handler/creator is going to be Josh Richardson. Did you ever think he'd be the secondary ball handler of a title team?

Name a more stacked team in the east than the Sixers

Overall talent, Sixers probably come out ahead, but they have no real iso player, weak spacing and are FC heavy. They also lean heavily on Embiid, who's a walking injury risk. Healthy in the playoffs, i think theyre still dogs to the Bucks, unless Simmons comes back with a jumpshot

I agree it all comes down to Simmons. If he atleast gets a midrange down, they will be a lock

[JAYZGOAT]

Name a more stacked team in the east than the Sixers

Overall talent, Sixers probably come out ahead, but they have no real iso player, weak spacing and are FC heavy. They also lean heavily on Embiid, who's a walking injury risk. Healthy in the playoffs, i think theyre still dogs to the Bucks, unless Simmons comes back with a jumpshot

I agree it all comes down to Simmons. If he atleast gets a midrange down, they will be a lock

I think it will come down to Embiid. And all signs are showing that he is gearing up for a monster season. He supposedly lost 25 pounds, and finally has quality insurance for when he sits. He also just played the healthier season that he's ever played. Embiid is not at his peak. I think we're going to see a more dominant Embiid this year, Giannis type of dominant. That alone in my eyes make Sixers>>Bucks.

[JAYZGOAT]

You can't say it works until that Lakers vs Sixers scenario actually happens...because Clippers vs Bucks is just as likely if not more likely in my opinion, which then means I could argue that tanking doesn't work.

Sixers are contenders. Tanking worked for THEM.

[iLLmatic860]

Overall talent, Sixers probably come out ahead, but they have no real iso player, weak spacing and are FC heavy. They also lean heavily on Embiid, who's a walking injury risk. Healthy in the playoffs, i think theyre still dogs to the Bucks, unless Simmons comes back with a jumpshot

I agree it all comes down to Simmons. If he atleast gets a midrange down, they will be a lock

I think it will come down to Embiid. And all signs are showing that he is gearing up for a monster season. He supposedly lost 25 pounds, and finally has quality insurance for when he sits. He also just played the healthier season that he's ever played. Embiid is not at his peak. I think we're going to see a more dominant Embiid this year, Giannis type of dominant. That alone in my eyes make Sixers>>Bucks.

Jesus 25 lbs? Im surprised thats not a bigger story

[Sixerscan]

Lakers signed Luol Deng and Mozgov to multiple year deals in 2016, and signed Lebron 2years later in 2018. So they tanked for what? 1 year.

People need to differentiate between tanking and just being terrible at building a team.

Forgot the year, but remember when Jordan Clarkson and Nick Young were the anti-tank commanders and winning meaningless games at the end of the season? Hitting game-winners. I think it was Lou Williams who said "I'm not about to let someone else take my job". The Lakers were doing everything in their power to NOT tank. They could've finished even lower a few of those years, and it took luck with the ping pong balls to even keep their picks.

There is a difference between losing games and outright tanking.

Until he got traded for a draft pick at the deadline...

[TrueFan420]

And I’m pretty sure the warriors sucked hard for years.

This is where people need to be more carful about the term “Tanking” because similar to “superstar” it’s thrown around way too often. The Warriors at no point in time tanked. They were just a horribly run organization. The owner was a joke, FO was a joke and drafted horribly and were poorly coached for a very very very long time. The Warriors didn’t actively lose to get talent and turn it around like the 6ers team that coined the term. They were just bad. It’s no coincidence that the team turned around shortly after the ownership changed and we started bringing in better people. Steph also played a massive role.

Are the Knicks “Tanking” or just a horribly ran organization?

[SFour]

You can't say it works until that Lakers vs Sixers scenario actually happens...because Clippers vs Bucks is just as likely if not more likely in my opinion, which then means I could argue that tanking doesn't work.

Sixers are contenders. Tanking worked for THEM.

Sixers are an outlier when it comes to tanking..how many of their lottery picks missed their rookie season because of injury...that allowed them to continue tanking while stacking up the talent.

Markelle Fultz, Ben Simmons (entire season), Jahlil Okafor, Joel Embiid (first two seasons), Nerlens Noel (entire season)

[old skool]

What was the last team to win an NBA championship because they tanked?

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[Capn'O]

Are the Knicks “Tanking” or just a horribly ran organization?

Last year the two were not mutually exclusive.

Only year we did it completely by design. Maybe 14-15 too.