Greater: Kobe Bryant vs Stephen Curry

[G35]

Kobe obviously. How the heck is the poll 22-14?! Should be 20-2 IMO. Either we have alot of millenials on this website (probably true) and alot of haters who saw Kobe beat their teams in dominant fashion from 1998-2013 (also true).

Y'all disgust me.

This doesn't make any sense....

You think Kobe is better - but you think the poll should be 20-2...as in you think 2 people should arbitrarily think Curry should be better? It's like you don't know how polls work.

Also, do you know what a millennial is? I mean I am seriously shocked - you do realize that millennial grew up with Kobe Bryant not Stephen Curry right lmao. Millennial are in their 30s - so they would have nostalgia for Kobe Bryant. What do you think a millennial is, a 15 year old in 2019?

At what age do you think people begin to understand the game of basketball...12? 15? 18?

In 2001 if you are an 18 year old and now in 2019 you are 36 and your understanding of basketball should have progressed. At 18 you are more fanboy than anything......

[snaquille oatmeal]

Odom was much better than Dray? I think you're underrating Dray's passing ability.

You are not comparing the 2005-2007 Lakers rosters to the Warriors rosters are you? Maybe you misread my post. Mihm, Smush Parker, Odom, Kwame Brown did not attract defenses the way Thompson, Iggy, KD, Dray, Livingston do, come on bro!

So 3 years where the lakers made the playoffs twice and lost in the first round the other two times. I just assumed you weren't usin those as plus years for Kobe. Congrats he can shoot contested shots well?

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

[cupcakesnake]

Curry had a higher offensive peak, but Kobe was a significantly better defender.
Kobe also had greater longevity, assuming a normal decline curve for Curry. Kobe was also the unquestioned best player on two title teams, while Curry only one. Curry also doesn't have a FMVP, while Kobe has 2.

It's a good comparison, but I feel like it's Kobe pretty comfortably tbh.

on ball defense for guards is so overrated in these discussions...the offensive gap between them is wider than defense...there's a reason Stephs impact metrics are infinitely better despite Kobe being a "way better defender"

I made one passing mention of it, and I'm overrating it?
So properly rating defense for you would be, what exactly? Never mentioning it as an aspect of the sport at all?

Btw, Kobe's career offensive win shares is way higher than Curry's. It's not even close. Same with VORP.
Not sure what impact metrics you are referring to. Curry has him beat in OBPM, but that's it.

Can you please not use stats that you don't understand? This post is embarassing.
Win Shares and VORP are accumulative. You literally add them on top of each other, game after game, season after season. Kobe played 20 seasons! Steph is currently headed into his 11th. You can't use VORP or Win Shares for players who played different amount of games. FYI, Curry's win shares per minute are at a higher rate than Kobe's. Use these stats in any equal stretches of their careers, and Steph wins these numbers quite handily.

In terms of the defense thing... Kobe had a way higher ceiling on defense. But anyone who watched 2000s basketball, know that by the mid 2000s, Kobe was done playing defense. You can see if it you watch the games. Kobe loafs like Harden/Melo, but occasionally ball hawks just enough to keep us impressed. If you don't agree, ask Phil Jackson. He claims Kobe stopped playing defense in 2002.

The entire debate. I would bet that Curry eclipses Kobe. They're in the same tier to me right now. But Curry probably has another 5+ seasons, with maybe 3-4 all-nba level ones. He has arguably the highest offensive peak ever, and while he has a late start on Kobe (Kobe was an 18 year old rookie, Steph was 21), I think Steph will climb just a little higher than Kobe.

[clyde21]

I don't know what you're tying to get at...sure Kobe was a heavy iso player but that wasn't by design.

you don't even make any sense...are you saying Steph is the ISO-heavy player in this equation?

I'm not sure what you don't understand. Steph is playing in an era that's all about exploiting big men/mismatches. Guys like Curry, Harden, Dame, Lebron, Irving, ect. all make a killing getting those guys on an island and putting them in a grinder. Kobe was a heavy iso player but not because the league dictated that style of play rather because he was a dominant force playing that style of basketball. With the way the league is officiated it's a lot easier to score efficiently than it was during most of Kobe's career.

what the **** are you smoking? Steph isn't an ISO player, his offensive comes primarily off ball and player movement, supplemented by 1v1 play...his shots assisted rate is split right down the middle, unlike Kobe.

this is some bizzaro world type argument.

[G35]

The reason why Kobe is greater than Steph has nothing to do with TS%/efficiency or any of these other metrics.

Its because of his play in the playoffs and Steph has not stepped up in moments like Kobe has.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1160616-power-ranking-kobe-byants-11-greatest-playoff-moments#slide1

Kobe’s line read 15 points, six assists and four rebounds, which is nothing spectacular. The Bean was the third-leading scorer in the game behind Shaquille O'Neal and Glen Rice, of all people.

This game rebukes the notion that Bryant is selfish as he also only took 11 shots, choosing rather to be a distributor and defender.

However, true greatness can neither be denied nor suppressed, and with the game in the balance the Laker took a "shot" at being great. The player Bryant hit the game-winner over was none other than All-Defensive second-team member Jason Kidd.

In 2001 the Lakers were sweeping their opponents out of the playoffs. The Kings were next to be swept out of the postseason. Bryant opened the game scoring 13 points in the first quarter and closed it out by scoring 15 points in the fourth quarter; in total he went for a game-high 48 points.

The Laker great was also the game’s leading rebounder with 16. Yes, the 6'8" guard outrebounded Shaq, Vlade Divac and Chris Webber—so much for one-dimensional.

When people discuss who the greatest player from 2000-2010 was, there are only two stars who should be mentioned: Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan.

The two were on the floor together in this 2002 classic.

Duncan finished with 30 points and 11 rebounds, but it was Bryant who stole the show. Kobe secured an offensive rebound and put-back against both Duncan and David Robinson. The Lakers took an 87-85 lead and eventually won the game and the series.

It's plays like that against some of the game’s premier players that should thrust Bryant above the competition.

The Lakers were down 2-1 in this series and needed Game 4 if they were to come back and win the series.

The Lakers opened the fourth quarter up by just five points after trailing for the better part of the game.

Bryant then scored 15 of the LA’s 24 fourth-quarter points and finished the game with 42 points. Bryant carried a Lakers club that only put one other player in double figures (Shaq) in a game they had to have.

Los Angeles won this game and eventually the series, 4-2.

Bryant was cocked and loaded in this contest. The guard was primed for another bout with his nemesis Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs.

The Lakers had been down by as many as 20 points and trailed for the bulk of the fourth quarter. Once taking the lead it was Duncan who tied the game at 85 with 41 seconds left, thus setting the stage for another Bryant memorable moment.

The guard put LA up for good with 23 seconds left and finished Game 1 with 27 points and nine assists.

Los Angeles went on to beat the Spurs 4-1.

The Lakers looked lost and, quite honestly, shook to death at the prospect of being Western Conference champions, yet alone NBA champions. Down by as many as 15 points in the fourth quarter, the Purple and Gold appeared headed for a summer of discontent. Then a huge block on Bonzi Wells by Bryant and corner pocket three-pointer by Brian Shaw suddenly knocked the deficit down to 10.

A Robert Horry three got the lead down to five and after a Bryant elbow, jumper Brian “Dead-Eye” Shaw tied the game up. Shaq put the Lakers ahead and Kobe took the game over from there. A jumpshot and alley-oop later, LA was headed to its first NBA Finals appearance in nine years.

Bryant led both teams in assists with seven, in blocks with four and in rebounds with 11. The Laker was the complete package in and it was is block that sparked the biggest comeback in Game 7 history.

It was no accident Kobe Bryant led his team past the Boston Celtics on this day. Bryant's shot was not falling but the champion reverted back to prior game seven performances and directed his attention
elsewhere.

The guard would outrebound both Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace to the tune of 15 rebounds. Yet with the game still in jeopardy it was Bryant’s three straight defensive rebounds that would help push the Lakers over the Celtics.

Known throughout his career as a selfish scorer it was this game seven with the spotlight squarely on him the Laker great found another way become a champion. The guard showed his versatility and most of all
his heart with this performance.

From the 2010 Finals everyone wants to talk about Kobe's poor shooting.

Who really gives a damn about poor shooting. Everyone in that game shot poorly.

Kobe got 3 consecutive defensive rebounds in a tight game...that is what people miss when judging Kobe is that its not just about shooting, or making assists, or anything. Kobe just does whatever it takes to win.

Whereas with other players, you judge them on only their efficiency or so random impact stat.

Who remembers any of that crap years later....no one.

We only care about did you win the game.

Steph is great, I don't have really anything negative to say about him, but he has not done the "other things" that greats do to win in the playoffs. Its strictly about his shooting......

[GeorgeMarcus]

The reason why Kobe is greater than Steph has nothing to do with TS%/efficiency or any of these other metrics.

Its because of his play in the playoffs and Steph has not stepped up in moments like Kobe has.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1160616-power-ranking-kobe-byants-11-greatest-playoff-moments#slide1

Kobe’s line read 15 points, six assists and four rebounds, which is nothing spectacular. The Bean was the third-leading scorer in the game behind Shaquille O'Neal and Glen Rice, of all people.

This game rebukes the notion that Bryant is selfish as he also only took 11 shots, choosing rather to be a distributor and defender.

However, true greatness can neither be denied nor suppressed, and with the game in the balance the Laker took a "shot" at being great. The player Bryant hit the game-winner over was none other than All-Defensive second-team member Jason Kidd.

In 2001 the Lakers were sweeping their opponents out of the playoffs. The Kings were next to be swept out of the postseason. Bryant opened the game scoring 13 points in the first quarter and closed it out by scoring 15 points in the fourth quarter; in total he went for a game-high 48 points.

The Laker great was also the game’s leading rebounder with 16. Yes, the 6'8" guard outrebounded Shaq, Vlade Divac and Chris Webber—so much for one-dimensional.

When people discuss who the greatest player from 2000-2010 was, there are only two stars who should be mentioned: Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan.

The two were on the floor together in this 2002 classic.

Duncan finished with 30 points and 11 rebounds, but it was Bryant who stole the show. Kobe secured an offensive rebound and put-back against both Duncan and David Robinson. The Lakers took an 87-85 lead and eventually won the game and the series.

It's plays like that against some of the game’s premier players that should thrust Bryant above the competition.

The Lakers were down 2-1 in this series and needed Game 4 if they were to come back and win the series.

The Lakers opened the fourth quarter up by just five points after trailing for the better part of the game.

Bryant then scored 15 of the LA’s 24 fourth-quarter points and finished the game with 42 points. Bryant carried a Lakers club that only put one other player in double figures (Shaq) in a game they had to have.

Los Angeles won this game and eventually the series, 4-2.

Bryant was cocked and loaded in this contest. The guard was primed for another bout with his nemesis Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs.

The Lakers had been down by as many as 20 points and trailed for the bulk of the fourth quarter. Once taking the lead it was Duncan who tied the game at 85 with 41 seconds left, thus setting the stage for another Bryant memorable moment.

The guard put LA up for good with 23 seconds left and finished Game 1 with 27 points and nine assists.

Los Angeles went on to beat the Spurs 4-1.

The Lakers looked lost and, quite honestly, shook to death at the prospect of being Western Conference champions, yet alone NBA champions. Down by as many as 15 points in the fourth quarter, the Purple and Gold appeared headed for a summer of discontent. Then a huge block on Bonzi Wells by Bryant and corner pocket three-pointer by Brian Shaw suddenly knocked the deficit down to 10.

A Robert Horry three got the lead down to five and after a Bryant elbow, jumper Brian “Dead-Eye” Shaw tied the game up. Shaq put the Lakers ahead and Kobe took the game over from there. A jumpshot and alley-oop later, LA was headed to its first NBA Finals appearance in nine years.

Bryant led both teams in assists with seven, in blocks with four and in rebounds with 11. The Laker was the complete package in and it was is block that sparked the biggest comeback in Game 7 history.

It was no accident Kobe Bryant led his team past the Boston Celtics on this day. Bryant's shot was not falling but the champion reverted back to prior game seven performances and directed his attention
elsewhere.

The guard would outrebound both Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace to the tune of 15 rebounds. Yet with the game still in jeopardy it was Bryant’s three straight defensive rebounds that would help push the Lakers over the Celtics.

Known throughout his career as a selfish scorer it was this game seven with the spotlight squarely on him the Laker great found another way become a champion. The guard showed his versatility and most of all
his heart with this performance.

From the 2010 Finals everyone wants to talk about Kobe's poor shooting.

Who really gives a damn about poor shooting. Everyone in that game shot poorly.

Kobe got 3 consecutive defensive rebounds in a tight game...that is what people miss when judging Kobe is that its not just about shooting, or making assists, or anything. Kobe just does whatever it takes to win.

Whereas with other players, you judge them on only their efficiency or so random impact stat.

Who remembers any of that crap years later....no one.

We only care about did you win the game.

Steph is great, I don't have really anything negative to say about him, but he has not done the "other things" that greats do to win in the playoffs. Its strictly about his shooting......

Curry has won 70% of his playoff games vs Kobe's 61.4%. Curry has averaged more playoff points on way better efficiency. I'm just not seeing why Kobe is the superior playoff performer other than narrative.

[RoyceDa59]

Curry will fall short in almost every head-to-head comparison with top 20ish all-time players (Kobe more like top 10) because he provides so very little on the defensive end.

Kobe was an elite defender, both man-to-man and help, for many years. And his tenacious leadership on the defensive end was one of his greatest features. Same reason I'd rather have Kawhi on my team right now than Curry (both great players) because even if shots aren't falling guys like Kobe and Kawhi could still dominate defensively.

For that reason, this is an easy Kobe over Curry for me.

[Mamba Mentality]

you don't even make any sense...are you saying Steph is the ISO-heavy player in this equation?

I'm not sure what you don't understand. Steph is playing in an era that's all about exploiting big men/mismatches. Guys like Curry, Harden, Dame, Lebron, Irving, ect. all make a killing getting those guys on an island and putting them in a grinder. Kobe was a heavy iso player but not because the league dictated that style of play rather because he was a dominant force playing that style of basketball. With the way the league is officiated it's a lot easier to score efficiently than it was during most of Kobe's career.

what the **** are you smoking? Steph isn't an ISO player, his offensive comes primarily off ball and player movement, supplemented by 1v1 play...his shots assisted rate is split right down the middle, unlike Kobe.

this is some bizzaro world type argument.

I literally said nothing about Curry being a iso player, but made a general statement how much basketball has become a more isocentric game and supports more players in terms of efficiency. Go look at my OP. And I acknowledged Kobe is a iso heavy player...My greater point is obviously getting lost in your agenda and I honestly don't have the patience to go back and forth on a meaningless topic. Not sure why I even bother posting in Kobe threads.

[clyde21]

I'm not sure what you don't understand. Steph is playing in an era that's all about exploiting big men/mismatches. Guys like Curry, Harden, Dame, Lebron, Irving, ect. all make a killing getting those guys on an island and putting them in a grinder. Kobe was a heavy iso player but not because the league dictated that style of play rather because he was a dominant force playing that style of basketball. With the way the league is officiated it's a lot easier to score efficiently than it was during most of Kobe's career.

what the **** are you smoking? Steph isn't an ISO player, his offensive comes primarily off ball and player movement, supplemented by 1v1 play...his shots assisted rate is split right down the middle, unlike Kobe.

this is some bizzaro world type argument.

I literally said nothing about Curry being a iso player, but made a general statement how much basketball has become a more isocentric game. Go look at my OP. And I acknowledged Kobe is a iso heavy player. My greater point is obviously getting lost in your agenda, there's a good reason why I try to avoid all Kobe related topics.

i know what you said, here it is again:

Curry is playing in an era that specializes in iso ball

what does that have to do with this discussion, Steph vs. Kobe? Steph is the antithesis of an ISO oriented player. it's either you were trying to BS, or weren't saying anything at all just trying to fill empty space with words.

[ProspectPark]

What’s the point of having high a True Shooting percentage if your opponent is also going to score just as easily?

We just saw games in the Finals where both teams are scoring 120+ points.

Comparing True Shooting percentages across different eras is for clowns.

I’ll take Kobe easily. The most basic reason, Kobe has proven he can play elite defense guarding multiple positions. Steph can’t.

[Danny1616]

You are not comparing the 2005-2007 Lakers rosters to the Warriors rosters are you? Maybe you misread my post. Mihm, Smush Parker, Odom, Kwame Brown did not attract defenses the way Thompson, Iggy, KD, Dray, Livingston do, come on bro!

So 3 years where the lakers made the playoffs twice and lost in the first round the other two times. I just assumed you weren't usin those as plus years for Kobe. Congrats he can shoot contested shots well?

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

[snaquille oatmeal]

So 3 years where the lakers made the playoffs twice and lost in the first round the other two times. I just assumed you weren't usin those as plus years for Kobe. Congrats he can shoot contested shots well?

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

[SK21209]

Obviously the accolades weigh in Kobe's favor but in terms of skill/prowess on a basketball court its a good comparison. Get out of here with Kobe's all defensive teams though, the guy was good during the threepeat but pretty average the rest of his career.

[Danny1616]

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

You know why teams put 4 defenders on Kobe? Because they know he's not going to pass the ball. It was comical at times.

Steph is a much better passer than Kobe.

[SK21209]

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

Lol well yeah, because they know he aint passing to the three open dudes

[KyRo23]

You still don’t understand my original post. The comparison is between Steph and Kobe as to who is better right? So I said that Steph has not seen defenses that concentrate solely on him like Kobe did in the years between Shaq and Gasol. If the Warriors get gutted and only have Steph and a bunch of D-leaguers and still manage to make the playoffs then we can have a conversation.

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

You've seen 4 on Kobe because players know that even if he has 4 players on him, he will shoot it. If they did that to Curry, you know he would give the ball up for an easy basket lol.

[Danny1616]

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

You've seen 4 on Kobe because players know that even if he has 4 players on him, he will shoot it. If they did that to Curry, you know he would give the ball up for an easy basket lol.

Exactly this.

[Lost Angel]

this is Kobe by a far margin

fans love to disrespect Kobe, but you rarely ever hear a player or former player hating on Kobe

Steph is great, he’s actually unbelievably good. But he’s not better than Kobe.

[Danny1616]

this is Kobe by a far margin

fans love to disrespect Kobe, but you rarely ever hear a player or former player hating on Kobe

Steph is great, he’s actually unbelievably good. But he’s not better than Kobe.

Margin is not far at all.

I'm taking peak Curry over peak Kobe any day of the week and for me it's not even a debate.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Huh?

Steph is a high IQ player who has an ability to make low percentage shots at an efficient rate. He's also an excellent passer out of double teams.

You don't think teams were trying to concentrate on Steph in 2016? Klay was his #2 option, and Draymond Green isn't a huge offensive threat.

Teams are so scared off Steph that they will guard him at half-court. What makes Steph so scary is that he doesn't need the ball to be effective...his ability to get open and have defenses focus attention on him opens up everything for his teammates. Much of the Warriors actions revolve around the attention Steph gets from opposing defenses when he doesn't even have the ball in his hands...that's how scary he is offensively.

Some of you need to watch basketball.

Have you seen 4 defenders on Steph? I’ve seen 4 on Kobe.

You know why teams put 4 defenders on Kobe? Because they know he's not going to pass the ball. It was comical at times.

Steph is a much better passer than Kobe.

Wow you really bought into hype and fake news. Did you actually watch those games? Who is Kobe gonna pass to? Smush Parker? Kwame Brown? “I only make my threes in practice machine Vuyacich?
Give me a break!