"Busts" Who Bounced Back

[moistnessfiscal]

To some high degree, Ricky Rubio.

[NCHeels2008]

Jermaine O'Neal?

I think he was drafted too far back to be able to meaningfully get that label

[MrDollarBills]

D'Angelo Russell. That dude worked his ass off.

[IgorK]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

[Lalouie]

matt barnes

[jason bourne]

Do you understand what the phrase "bounced back" means or

I think Lonzo and Beasley have bounced back from past seasons last season. The Pels took Lonzo in trade and more fans think he'll do better with them this year. Had he stayed with the Lakers, then he would've worked with head asst. coach, Jason Kidd, who is his comparison.

Beasley showed he could be the Nugz best 3-pt shooter in terms of accuracy last season. He definitely bounced back from poor showings his first two years.

I threw Fultz in there b/c his fans still think he can bounce back despite all his troubles. His "bounce back" is still in their minds. Fultz hasn't shown it, but he's on a new team now, the Magic, and he is coming back from another injury. This one is the best -- thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS). It cannot be traced by MRI, but it's the primary cause of his shooting woes.

Beasley has a ton. I agree with you there. But you were 1/3. Fultz and Ball haven't bounced back, yet. Here's hoping they do.

I think Ball has bounced back in terms of fans and league perception. I'm sure the Lakers were planning on keeping Ball except the Pels wanted him to be paired with Jrue. Afterward, the Pels got trade offers for Ball and Ingram, but they decided to keep them.

I'm not as sure about Fultz. His fans still think he'll make it, but he's not on a good team. Fultz could end up as one of the biggest busts ever, but the Magic only gave up a Simmons, a protected first rounder, and a second. Aside from his fans and the Magic fans, nobody, but nobody expects him to become a star. His comp is James Harden.

My take is Fultz should try Chinese medicine such as acupuncture. I've read that Eastern medicine has no nervous system. One cannot treat the nervous system, so they have acupuncture to take care of the spirit and body flow. I think that would help what ails Fultz. TOS is supposed to cause pain because the brain thinks a portion of the body is sending them the pain signal when it isn't hurt. If that's true, then it is a problem. Not a mental one, but a nerve related physical one that cannot be treated properly by Western medicine and pills. Thus, the acupuncture should help him alleviate his pain. The other part about Eastern medicine I like is how they treat each patient individually. You are not treated just for the symptoms.

[jason bourne]

D'Angelo Russell. That dude worked his ass off.

It would be awesome if he made All-Star again and helped keep the Warriors in the playoffs and go deep. The Warriors are still weak at the wings with Klay out and losing KD.

[jason bourne]

Winslow comes to mind
followed by Randle

Is Winslow a PG now? He is one of the players I'll be watching next season. He's been ignored by me in fantasy for several years.

As for Randle, I'm sure his value improved with the Pels, but he ended up on the Knicks. He could be a good pairing with block star Mitchell Robinson and Kevin Knox. They look good for a young team on paper, but it's still the Knicks. I dunno.

[DoItALL9]

Good thread that seemed to be somewhat derailed by the debate of who qualifies. I agree with the OP in those he included.

I think Tyson Chandler, who was just mentioned, maybe one of the best comebacks.

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[HotelVitale]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

You’re remembering that wrong. He was already a solid player (if a little disappointing as a top pick) in Chicago—they traded him only to clear room to sign Ben Wallace—and then he was a very very important part of the Chris Paul New Orleans teams. That was definitely his breakout years and the whole world saw him as a good starter. Then he was traded for another good starter in Emeka Okafor, struggled with injuries the next year and then returned to form with Dallas and NYK. Don't even think he was any better on the Mavs than in the N.O. years, let alone having some kind of redemption from bust to boom then.

[rzzzzz]

from a financial viewpoint, it's got to be Evan Turner. Philly had to give him away, and things at Indy didn't go as Bird had hoped. but after Stevens figured out how to use him with Boston, he found any number of teams bidding up the next long term contract. in reality, a decent rotation player with a better feel for the game than any elite skill.

[UcanUwill]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

You’re remembering that wrong. He was already a solid player (if a little disappointing as a top pick) in Chicago—they traded him only to clear room to sign Ben Wallace—and then he was a very very important part of the Chris Paul New Orleans teams. That was definitely his breakout years and the whole world saw him as a good starter. Then he was traded for another good starter in Emeka Okafor, struggled with injuries the next year and then returned to form with Dallas and NYK. Don't even think he was any better on the Mavs than in the N.O. years, let alone having some kind of redemption from bust to boom then.

He wasnt good in Chicago, but was very good in NO, but he was plagued with injuries at that time, and because of that a lot of people were thinking hes fools gold, because he cant stay on the court. He definitely wanst some kind of new revelation in Dallas, just stayed healthy at the right time and was a great fit.

[Fencer reregistered]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

You’re remembering that wrong. He was already a solid player (if a little disappointing as a top pick) in Chicago—they traded him only to clear room to sign Ben Wallace—and then he was a very very important part of the Chris Paul New Orleans teams. That was definitely his breakout years and the whole world saw him as a good starter. Then he was traded for another good starter in Emeka Okafor, struggled with injuries the next year and then returned to form with Dallas and NYK. Don't even think he was any better on the Mavs than in the N.O. years, let alone having some kind of redemption from bust to boom then.

Nobody ever thought he was quite as bad as Kwame Brown or Eddie Curry. But I stand by my view that he was seen as a badly failed draft pick, and not just because Pau Gasol went right after him. What isn't really debatable is that Chandler was viewed as a disappointment in Chicago. It is debatable whether he was seen as an outright bust.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bulls/ct-bulls-2001-draft-spt-0619-20160618-story.html is a good article.

[Rockice_24]

Spencer Dinwiddie for the Nets is the first person I can think of. Bounced around the league and around the D-League (what is was at the time) before latching on with the Nets when they were desperate for young players. Finally under the development staff with the Nets broke out into one of the better 6th men. I expect him to be in the running yet again for 6th man of the year.

[First Take]

Greg Oden is no a bust. Injuries derailed his career like Grant Hill

[KyRo23]

Lonzo Ball. Pops and the Spurs didn't want him. Lakers traded his arse.

Malik Beasley. Now, he can shoot the 3-pt shot.

Markelle Fultz. LOL.

Do you understand what the phrase "bounced back" means or

I think Lonzo and Beasley have bounced back from past seasons last season. The Pels took Lonzo in trade and more fans think he'll do better with them this year. Had he stayed with the Lakers, then he would've worked with head asst. coach, Jason Kidd, who is his comparison.

Beasley showed he could be the Nugz best 3-pt shooter in terms of accuracy last season. He definitely bounced back from poor showings his first two years.

I threw Fultz in there b/c his fans still think he can bounce back despite all his troubles. His "bounce back" is still in their minds. Fultz hasn't shown it, but he's on a new team now, the Magic, and he is coming back from another injury. This one is the best -- thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS). It cannot be traced by MRI, but it's the primary cause of his shooting woes.

Smooth damage control, but we all know you didn't mean what this thread was about.

[BNM]

Pervis Ellison. First he was a bust, then he wasn't, then he was, again.

Never Nervous Pervis was the No 1 overall pick in the 1989 draft. SAC, the team that drafted him gave up on him after a lackluster rookie season. He was traded to Washington where he had a rather "meh" second season - for a No. 1 overall pick, and then he totally busted out, averaging 20.0 PTS/G, 11.2 REB/G, 2.9 AST/G and 2.7 BLK/G and winning MIP his third season in the league.

He had one more decent year in Washington and then back to obscurity. Of course, injuries played a part, but it was bizarre how he sucked, then didn't, then did.

[HotelVitale]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

You’re remembering that wrong. He was already a solid player (if a little disappointing as a top pick) in Chicago—they traded him only to clear room to sign Ben Wallace—and then he was a very very important part of the Chris Paul New Orleans teams. That was definitely his breakout years and the whole world saw him as a good starter. Then he was traded for another good starter in Emeka Okafor, struggled with injuries the next year and then returned to form with Dallas and NYK. Don't even think he was any better on the Mavs than in the N.O. years, let alone having some kind of redemption from bust to boom then.

Nobody ever thought he was quite as bad as Kwame Brown or Eddie Curry. But I stand by my view that he was seen as a badly failed draft pick, and not just because Pau Gasol went right after him. What isn't really debatable is that Chandler was viewed as a disappointment in Chicago. It is debatable whether he was seen as an outright bust. https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bulls/ct-bulls-2001-draft-spt-0619-20160618-story.html is a good article.

Well that article doesn't say anything about him as a bust on the Bulls, but in any case I'm fine with calling him a disappointment for them (my original post literally says that). Just don't think it's debatable that he was good on the Pelicans, which was like 3-4 years before the Mavs.

[IgorK]

Tyson Chandler. Dude was a #2 pick who underperformed until Mavs happened to him.

You’re remembering that wrong. He was already a solid player (if a little disappointing as a top pick) in Chicago—they traded him only to clear room to sign Ben Wallace—and then he was a very very important part of the Chris Paul New Orleans teams. That was definitely his breakout years and the whole world saw him as a good starter. Then he was traded for another good starter in Emeka Okafor, struggled with injuries the next year and then returned to form with Dallas and NYK. Don't even think he was any better on the Mavs than in the N.O. years, let alone having some kind of redemption from bust to boom then.

I sort of agree. He wasn't even the best big man on those NO teams (David West was) and his injuries basically made him underperform. When he joined the Mavs it all clicked for him.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Martin Odegaard