Markelle Fultz Updates Thread

[pepe1991]

From what i saw , Philly fans are more interested into:
1) Simmons shooting corner 3s
2) Embiid losing 25 pounds
3) Making fun how Ilyasova has been 29 years old last 3 years
4) strange fascination with Josh Richardson

Than anything about Fultz. There are few comments here and there, but nothing major. I mean if they really wanna be mad at something ,it's a trade they made that made them miss on Tatum. Having young core of Simmons, Tatum and Embiid is wet dream of every GM.

I think they have a no mention Fultz name moto. Kind of like how Magic fans wouldn't even say Fran Vazquez name.



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But it was Vasquez decision to never come over, Fultz could ask a trade ( and he might did it ) But in reality he had no control over his situation.
If 76ers ever feel need to be angry at somebody around whole Fultz saga, they should look at front office first.

[nymets1]

I would think Fultz is going to be one of the 5 starters by game 1.

[Knightro]

I would think Fultz is going to be one of the 5 starters by game 1.

That would be very surprising and unexpected.

I think the Magic are going to work him in slowly. If he plays really well as the backup, then we'll see.

[fendilim]

Doesn't matter if he jumps high or too low, if he has good upper body, its going to be easy for him. What matters is if Fultz will be a respectable shooter or not, the videos are a step towards the right direction (no hitches).

So Westbrook doesn't have a good upper body?

Lol. I said it would be easier to be a good shooter if you have a good upperbody. Not automatically a good shooter. Lol

[MagicStarwipe]

Looking good. Love this boards predicitions of him never coming back or missing most of the season....next day, he's fully participating in training camp

Don't have high expectations for things you can't control, and you'll never be disappointed. Pretty sure 99% of people here want to see him succeed.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I went to the Sixers board and didn't even see 3 comments about the updated Fultz news. There was one guy that said something negative about him. Where are all these salty Sixers fans you speak of? Quote more than a few examples please

You went to the wrong board

[Skybox]

Sorry, can't stop...let's say last year trajectory continues, Evan ONLY returns to past performance (with FIBA confidence) and Fultz is Washington Fultz...who scares you in the EAST? Let's Gooooo

Did I read that AG has NEVER played consecutive seasons with same coaching staff/FO?...that's unfathomable for development.

[Knightro]

Did I read that AG has NEVER played consecutive seasons with same coaching staff/FO?...that's unfathomable for development.

That's correct.

Year 1: Vaughn & Borrego/Hennigan
Year 2: Skiles/Hennigan
Year 3: Vogel/Hennigan
Year 4: Vogel/Weltman
Year 5: Clifford/Weltman

[shadrock]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

[Knightro]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

I'm rooting for Fultz to succeed here as much as anyone, but I just can't put a lot of blame on the Sixers for what happened with Fultz in Philadelphia.

It really doesn't matter now because he's here and not there, but I've somewhat obsessively read every piece of information from every possible source on that situation and came away thinking Fultz/his management were at best misleading and withholding information from the Sixers and media and at worst outright dishonest about a lot of things.

But again, all that's in the past now. The Magic have been extremely patient and extremely measured in managing expectations for Fultz.

I think the Magic recognize that Fultz (whether you believe he had/has an injury or not) has shown to be susceptible to losing confidence in himself and the situation he's in. They've bent over backwards so far to ensure that won't happen.

Like Weltman said yesterday, the biggest thing the Magic were able to provide for Fultz was escape from the microscope. Whether he was hurt or had the yips, Markelle clearly needed to be able to address it privately and at his own pace. The Magic absolutely afforded him that opportunity which was just something he wasn't going to be able to get in Philadelphia because of everything that had already happened.

[pepe1991]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

I don't get this narrative.
Philly is contender, even if Fultz was playing, but couldn't help them right away fight for chip and/or co-exist with Simmons, odds were that they would probably ship him for better fit.
They also needed cap space for FAs and trades.
In reality they flipped Okafor, J.Simmons, Šarić, Noel and Fultz into Al Horford ( 5 times allstar), one year of Jimmy Butler ( 4 times allstar), Tobias Harris and J. Rich.
That's not bad return by any streach of imagination.
Before Fultz trade people said same things for each and every one of them " they will regreat Okafor, they will regret Noel.."... They didn't. And even if they turn into good players, it's business, you have to give something up to make something happen.

Team who is contender has more value during championship hunt from one solid vet who will every game bring consistent value than one young player that clearly has more "future" and upside and 5 years from now will be be much better player than your vet is now.
You look at Marc Gasol trade to Raptors for J. Val. Valenchuinas averaged 20 ppg and 10,7 rpg for Memphis while being 8 years younger than Gasol, so they "won" trade, right? Yes and no. Valenchunas is younger, will last longer and Memphis got good value in return, but Raptors actually won trade because they made history, and 10 years from now nobody will remember how Memphis "won" trade but how Gasol shut down every single big man during that playoffs, including Cousins, Vučević and Embiid.

Philadelphia is in good shape to make big finals this year and since there is no Warriors type of roster this year, they have solid odds to win it all. And at end of a day you rebuild and tank to be in situation where you can win championship, not to be foster parent to players you drafted.

[Last Guardian]

Looking good. Love this boards predicitions of him never coming back or missing most of the season....next day, he's fully participating in training camp

Don't have high expectations for things you can't control, and you'll never be disappointed. Pretty sure 99% of people here want to see him succeed.

Ok so be negative and you'll never be disappointed? Very healthy outlook...

Not saying be positive or negative, just let things take their course. I had no opinion because I'm not around Fultz and I'm not his doctor. Nobody knew anything but many people here were spewing negativity.

[MagicStarwipe]

Looking good. Love this boards predicitions of him never coming back or missing most of the season....next day, he's fully participating in training camp

Don't have high expectations for things you can't control, and you'll never be disappointed. Pretty sure 99% of people here want to see him succeed.

Ok so be negative and you'll never be disappointed? Very healthy outlook...

Not saying be positive or negative, just let things take their course. I had no opinion because I'm not around Fultz and I'm not his doctor. Nobody knew anything but many people here were spewing negativity.

Well that's not my personal philosophy. I said all along that I had zero expectations for Fultz, either negative or positive. Most of the offseason I forgot he was even on the team.

[jezzerinho]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

I don't get this narrative.
Philly is contender, even if Fultz was playing, but couldn't help them right away fight for chip and/or co-exist with Simmons, odds were that they would probably ship him for better fit.
They also needed cap space for FAs and trades.
In reality they flipped Okafor, J.Simmons, Šarić, Noel and Fultz into Al Horford ( 5 times allstar), one year of Jimmy Butler ( 4 times allstar), Tobias Harris and J. Rich.
That's not bad return by any streach of imagination.
Before Fultz trade people said same things for each and every one of them " they will regreat Okafor, they will regret Noel.."... They didn't. And even if they turn into good players, it's business, you have to give something up to make something happen.

Team who is contender has more value during championship hunt from one solid vet who will every game bring consistent value than one young player that clearly has more "future" and upside and 5 years from now will be be much better player than your vet is now.
You look at Marc Gasol trade to Raptors for J. Val. Valenchuinas averaged 20 ppg and 10,7 rpg for Memphis while being 8 years younger than Gasol, so they "won" trade, right? Yes and no. Valenchunas is younger, will last longer and Memphis got good value in return, but Raptors actually won trade because they made history, and 10 years from now nobody will remember how Memphis "won" trade but how Gasol shut down every single big man during that playoffs, including Cousins, Vučević and Embiid.

Philadelphia is in good shape to make big finals this year and since there is no Warriors type of roster this year, they have solid odds to win it all. And at end of a day you rebuild and tank to be in situation where you can win championship, not to be foster parent to players you drafted.

Great post.

[JBSouthpaw]

Fultz has to improve very little over what he's already put up in the NBA to be our team's best PG.
He's scored 8 pts per game on 21 min a game. Avg 3.4 assists.
DJ averaged 12 and 5 playing 28 min last year.
He out rebounds him already, and is probably a better defender too.
If Fultz gets to 12 and 5 this year, I'll be super happy. He doesn't have to save this team.

[EAS Law]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

Something else in support of your position Shadrock, I think that the Sixers FO and coaching staff, as well as their fan base, became obsessed with all of their shiny new prospects and forgot that sometimes you have to actually develop guys and be patient—sort of like winning the lottery, buying everything you’ve ever dreamed of having, and then not having the time to enjoy or appreciate most of the stuff you bought while becoming fascinated with a couple of things.

[Knightro]

Fultz has to improve very little over what he's already put up in the NBA to be our team's best PG.
He's scored 8 pts per game on 21 min a game. Avg 3.4 assists.
DJ averaged 12 and 5 playing 28 min last year.
He out rebounds him already, and is probably a better defender too.
If Fultz gets to 12 and 5 this year, I'll be super happy. He doesn't have to save this team.

I'm not even worried about Fultz's stats so much.

If he can actually get on the court and more importantly not be afraid to shoot the basketball, he will very much be a contributor to this team.

In theory, Fultz has a ball handling and playmaking skill set from the lead guard spot that no one else on the team really has.

[OrlChamps2030]

There’s just more pressure in Philly. Playing in a mega market on a team with championship aspirations as the #1 pick leads to a lot of pressure from media and fans.

Luckily Orlando is one of the lowest pressure situations in the league. I hope Fultz is able to take advantage of the opportunity here, being on a young team with modest expectations and minimal fan & media pressure.

Instead of focusing so much on “winning the trade” or “proving them wrong” I just hope we can get some good rotation minutes out of Fultz. DJ/MCW is one of the worst PG duos in the league, DJ/Fultz is definitely a bit more dynamic.

[EAS Law]

I don't blame Sixers fans for being upset. If we had a #1 pick that went the way Fultz did then got traded for peanuts... we'd all hold somewhat of a grudge at least. Unique situation, hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and this injury mess is behind him.

You dont think their mismanagement played a role in what happened? They have nobody to blame but themselves if he is a star. They had him locked up and quit on him because their coaching staff wasnt equipped to either spot the issue and/or address it appropriately.

Im so incredibly grateful that the magic staff seem to be more switched on to this stuff. More than anything, if Fultz is who we now think he is, this is the biggest win to date for our new staff.

I don't get this narrative.
Philly is contender, even if Fultz was playing, but couldn't help them right away fight for chip and/or co-exist with Simmons, odds were that they would probably ship him for better fit.
They also needed cap space for FAs and trades.
In reality they flipped Okafor, J.Simmons, Šarić, Noel and Fultz into Al Horford ( 5 times allstar), one year of Jimmy Butler ( 4 times allstar), Tobias Harris and J. Rich.
That's not bad return by any streach of imagination.
Before Fultz trade people said same things for each and every one of them " they will regreat Okafor, they will regret Noel.."... They didn't. And even if they turn into good players, it's business, you have to give something up to make something happen.

Team who is contender has more value during championship hunt from one solid vet who will every game bring consistent value than one young player that clearly has more "future" and upside and 5 years from now will be be much better player than your vet is now.
You look at Marc Gasol trade to Raptors for J. Val. Valenchuinas averaged 20 ppg and 10,7 rpg for Memphis while being 8 years younger than Gasol, so they "won" trade, right? Yes and no. Valenchunas is younger, will last longer and Memphis got good value in return, but Raptors actually won trade because they made history, and 10 years from now nobody will remember how Memphis "won" trade but how Gasol shut down every single big man during that playoffs, including Cousins, Vučević and Embiid.

Philadelphia is in good shape to make big finals this year and since there is no Warriors type of roster this year, they have solid odds to win it all. And at end of a day you rebuild and tank to be in situation where you can win championship, not to be foster parent to players you drafted.

Which is why many of us don’t understand why Phlly fans seem to get VERY emotional about mocking both the Magic and Fultz. I think you’re right for the most part,but I don’t believe GMs think that far ahead at all and that luck plays a big part in the revisionist justification for bad trades if all ultimately works out.

It’s kind of like tracing back wasting and then trading TMac to Houston which ultimately lead to us making the Finals In 2009 once we got Howard and developed him. Its kind of silly honestly, but the real truth is that Philly will look like idiots if Fultz becomes a great player even near a first overall pick, and he was traded for Jsimmons and a second. They are very worried about that.

[GelbeWand09]

Fultz has to improve very little over what he's already put up in the NBA to be our team's best PG.
He's scored 8 pts per game on 21 min a game. Avg 3.4 assists.
DJ averaged 12 and 5 playing 28 min last year.
He out rebounds him already, and is probably a better defender too.
If Fultz gets to 12 and 5 this year, I'll be super happy. He doesn't have to save this team.

I'm not even worried about Fultz's stats so much.

If he can actually get on the court and more importantly not be afraid to shoot the basketball, he will very much be a contributor to this team.

In theory, Fultz has a ball handling and playmaking skill set from the lead guard spot that no one else on the team really has.

Yea MCW was one of the worst players in the leaque for years and almost out of the leaque and even he made a positive impact to our PG rotation. Even Philly Fultz was better than him, despite the drama + playing 2nd ballhandler to Simmons. At least i expect what Elf gave us (penetration & playmaking) + hopefully better defense this season.