Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild

[spearsy23]

Dre participating in training camp... I'd say we know within a three weeks rather he can ever make it back on an NBA court.

[slick_watts]

chris paul can cause problems for the thunder if he wants to. so far he hasn't. he might. if he does, there's increased impetus for sam presti to trade him and accept less than desirable terms. maybe. if he doesn't, then the thunder can wait out desperate teams like miami. i don't think sam presti will keep chris paul around if chris paul starts to make a fuss. he hasn't made a fuss yet. that's somewhat surprising to me. who knows what other surprises chris paul has in store for us.

The narrative that Chris Paul is the devil has exploded the last few years. He's a dick on the court, but he's always seemed professional off of it.

i like chris paul. but i also think there's a decent chance he can make it difficult for sam presti in the face of his nba clock ticking.

[ThunderBolt]

Thoughts from conference:

Sam is trying hard to sell the idea that the rebuild is future but they are excited about this years team.

Sam says previous draft success of 3 mvps was mostly luck.

Acknowledged that despite teams success over last decade that sometimes there is a feeling of failure.

Sam seemed to perk up when asked about the anti tampering measures.

Mission “Chris Paul Image Restoration” is in full force.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Sam says previous draft success of 3 mvps was mostly luck.

If Presti's success is based on luck then they should fire Presti and hire any random person on the street to see if they can find someone more lucky than Presti.

[ThunderBolt]

Read on Twitter

Sam wears it better than Morey.

[Pillendreher]

Sam says previous draft success of 3 mvps was mostly luck.

If Presti's success is based on luck then they should fire Presti and hire any random person on the street to see if they can find someone more lucky than Presti.

The guy is unreal. He treally tries to put spin on everything. Now he's just the humble guy who's trying to make things work.

"I lucked into the best draft core in NBA history and all I got out of it was a Nick Collison jersey retirement, but hey, let me offer you some random fortune cookie quotes and we're off to the races!"

Read on Twitter

Sam wears it better than Morey.

If he wants to live in a cabin in the woods so desperately, he should do everybody a favor and just go do it already.

[Dadouv47]

Well I don't blame him for saying he got lucky in the draft to cool down casual fans expectations. Most of them believe we will draft 3 superstars in the next 3 years so nothing wrong with was he said.

Obviously his ''we are not rebuilding yet'' is pure bull**** but we still have some great players on our roster so it's fair to say that we could have some nice games and play good basketball during first half of the season.

[ThunderBolt]

Hey we signed Markel Brown? Camp deal? Two way?

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Read on Twitter

Short lived to say the least.

[ThunderBolt]

Assuming Miami is willing to trade for Paul and OKC is not giving up assets. Would you be willing to add assets to the trade in order to acquire Herro, WInslow or Bam? OKC has the option to add picks or any and all players on the roster except SGA.

[Dadouv47]

Assuming Miami is willing to trade for Paul and OKC is not giving up assets. Would you be willing to add assets to the trade in order to acquire Herro, WInslow or Bam? OKC has the option to add picks or any and all players on the roster except SGA.

I would trade Miami 2021 first pick for Herro or Bam. Not giving up any asset for Winslow. His contract doesn't fit our timeline..If we trade for Winslow he will probably walk in 2022 or we will have to overpay for him to stay.

[ThunderBolt]

Assuming Miami is willing to trade for Paul and OKC is not giving up assets. Would you be willing to add assets to the trade in order to acquire Herro, WInslow or Bam? OKC has the option to add picks or any and all players on the roster except SGA.

I would trade Miami 2021 first pick for Herro or Bam. Not giving up any asset for Winslow. His contract doesn't fit our timeline..If we trade for Winslow he will probably walk in 2022 or we will have to overpay for him to stay.

I would probably pass on Bam. I like him as a player but I'm not so sure that we couldn't find something similar fairly easily in the next few years. I would probably prefer Herro but I don't really think Miami is interested in picks unless it were an overpay. I think Herro would be more attainable if we had a good role player on an affordable contract like Covington to play alongside Butler.

[Dadouv47]

Assuming Miami is willing to trade for Paul and OKC is not giving up assets. Would you be willing to add assets to the trade in order to acquire Herro, WInslow or Bam? OKC has the option to add picks or any and all players on the roster except SGA.

I would trade Miami 2021 first pick for Herro or Bam. Not giving up any asset for Winslow. His contract doesn't fit our timeline..If we trade for Winslow he will probably walk in 2022 or we will have to overpay for him to stay.

I would probably pass on Bam. I like him as a player but I'm not so sure that we couldn't find something similar fairly easily in the next few years. I would probably prefer Herro but I don't really think Miami is interested in picks unless it were an overpay. I think Herro would be more attainable if we had a good role player on an affordable contract like Covington to play alongside Butler.

they won't give up Herro unless he's a huge bust anyway...

Don't see any package that isn't about CP3+ pick(s) for scrubs (and an asset)

Ferguson is not a real asset (hope I'm wrong, I'm really low on him), Gallo's salary is too big and they won't give up assets for an expiring (they are far from contending and Gallo won't help them that much) and Adams doesn't make sense either.

[ThunderBolt]

I would trade Miami 2021 first pick for Herro or Bam. Not giving up any asset for Winslow. His contract doesn't fit our timeline..If we trade for Winslow he will probably walk in 2022 or we will have to overpay for him to stay.

I would probably pass on Bam. I like him as a player but I'm not so sure that we couldn't find something similar fairly easily in the next few years. I would probably prefer Herro but I don't really think Miami is interested in picks unless it were an overpay. I think Herro would be more attainable if we had a good role player on an affordable contract like Covington to play alongside Butler.

they won't give up Herro unless he's a huge bust anyway...

Don't see any package that isn't about CP3+ pick(s) for scrubs (and an asset)

Ferguson is not a real asset (hope I'm wrong, I'm really low on him), Gallo's salary is too big and they won't give up assets for an expiring (they are far from contending and Gallo won't help them that much) and Adams doesn't make sense either.

There are always reasons to downplay every player for not being perfect. We can say CP3 is a good player but his contract is too long or Gallo is a good player but his contract is too short. I don't know how good Ferguson will be but last he shot 36% from three, played good defense for a good part of the season and is still on his rookie contract. He's still younger than a lot of players that went in the draft this year. I've not seen anything to think he's Butler 2.0 but he has value.

I like Herro but guys like him get way overrated on these boards. Once a fanbase drafts a particular player they convince themselves of his greatness and he becomes untouchable. Herro was a guy picked at the end of the lottery that had a couple of nice performances in summer league but hasn't played and NBA game yet. I think the true value of all of these players lies in between these extreme opinions.

[Dadouv47]

I would probably pass on Bam. I like him as a player but I'm not so sure that we couldn't find something similar fairly easily in the next few years. I would probably prefer Herro but I don't really think Miami is interested in picks unless it were an overpay. I think Herro would be more attainable if we had a good role player on an affordable contract like Covington to play alongside Butler.

they won't give up Herro unless he's a huge bust anyway...

Don't see any package that isn't about CP3+ pick(s) for scrubs (and an asset)

Ferguson is not a real asset (hope I'm wrong, I'm really low on him), Gallo's salary is too big and they won't give up assets for an expiring (they are far from contending and Gallo won't help them that much) and Adams doesn't make sense either.

There are always reasons to downplay every player for not being perfect. We can say CP3 is a good player but his contract is too long or Gallo is a good player but his contract is too short. I don't know how good Ferguson will be but last he shot 36% from three, played good defense for a good part of the season and is still on his rookie contract. He's still younger than a lot of players that went in the draft this year. I've not seen anything to think he's Butler 2.0 but he has value.

I like Herro but guys like him get way overrated on these boards. Once a fanbase drafts a particular player they convince themselves of his greatness and he becomes untouchable. Herro was a guy picked at the end of the lottery that had a couple of nice performances in summer league but hasn't played and NBA game yet. I think the true value of all of these players lies in between these extreme opinions.

Agree about Ferguson/Herro. Ferguson improved but if we can deal CP3 + Ferg for scrubs and Herro, i would do it. Herro could be a huge bust but I would take the gamble because I don't think Ferguson's ceiling is very high (hope I'm wrong)

Gallo to Miami would be difficult to happen. Miami would have to send Dragic/johnson/Olynyx/Leonard/Herro for CP3 and Gallo.

Bam/Gallo/Winslow/CP3/Butler is a great starting 5 but they won't have any bench player (sorry Dion Waiters!)

Still think Miami will pull the trigger on CP3 anyway if they can't trade for another good player.They won't wait until 2021 to improve their roster.

[jambalaya]

Brown is probaby headed to the Blue. Probably Akoon-Purcell will do the same.

[ThunderBolt]

The Down to Dunk podcasts are so hit a miss. I like Andrew and Miky Berra. This last one with Luke and Taylor was just garbage. Those guys are like crazy Ira and The Douche from Parks and Rec, especially Luke. They add absolutely nothing of value.

[Old Man Game]

The Down to Dunk podcasts are so hit a miss. I like Andrew and Miky Berra. This last one with Luke and Taylor was just garbage. Those guys are like crazy Ira and The Douche from Parks and Rec, especially Luke. They add absolutely nothing of value.

Andrew seems like a nice guy so no disrespect intended but I just get very little from that podcast.

[Old Man Game]

Media day. It's finally time to see Chris Paul in Thunder blue. What a world.

[Old Man Game]

Media day. It's finally time to see Chris Paul in Thunder blue. What a world.

My dud looked so old up there. I didn't realize his hair was thinning so much. Like he was right out of central casting for an aging past his prime star.

[slick_watts]

george is going to be out until sometime in november and westbrook is missing preseason games already due to recovery from his knee procedure. this rebuild timing might look incredible in another six months.