KP is looking much more strong and healthy

[iLLmatic860]

Swapping KP out for Dennis Smith Jr. is just about the most Knicksian thing the Knicks have ever done.

So you gonna ignore the 2 1st round picks with one unprotected that has potential to be a lottery pick

Mavs aren't sniffing the lottery if Luka and KP are healthy. It was an awful trade, I don't understand why Knicks fans want to die on Mt. Mills. You can be a fan but acknowledge our clown car front office.

Lol guess we’ll find out

[shtolky]

Swapping KP out for Dennis Smith Jr. is just about the most Knicksian thing the Knicks have ever done.

So you gonna ignore the 2 1st round picks with one unprotected that has potential to be a lottery pick

Mavs aren't sniffing the lottery if Luka and KP are healthy. It was an awful trade, I don't understand why Knicks fans want to die on Mt. Mills. You can be a fan but acknowledge our clown car front office.

Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Blazers, Spurs. Who are the Mavs knocking out? Nobody. The Kings and T Wolves and arguably the Pelicans will be better than the Mavs. KP is going to be load managed and the rest of the Mavs roster is bad.

[azcatz11]

So you gonna ignore the 2 1st round picks with one unprotected that has potential to be a lottery pick

Mavs aren't sniffing the lottery if Luka and KP are healthy. It was an awful trade, I don't understand why Knicks fans want to die on Mt. Mills. You can be a fan but acknowledge our clown car front office.

Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Blazers, Spurs. Who are the Mavs knocking out? Nobody. The Kings and T Wolves and arguably the Pelicans will be better than the Mavs. KP is going to be load managed and the rest of the Mavs roster is bad.

I have the Kings ahead of the Mavs

[LKN]

I think it may take a year for it to really click.... but if KP stays healthy the Mavs are going to be a big problem for the league very soon (maybe not next season... but I'm thinking the season after they are going to be very dangerous)

[gh123]

I seriously question what kind of Mavs fan you are. You hated the Luka pick, we told you he was gonna be great. Now you are doing the same thing with KP. You did say that he is a lot stronger now, right? Don't you think that could help his rebounding?

What? I wasn't even on the forum when the draft was happening last summer. I knew Luka is gonna be amazing right away, I've got lots of Euroleague friends, so I knew about Luka more than any NBA scout.
And I didn't say KP was a lot stronger now. You're confusing me with someone. But yeah, I'm extremely down on KP and everyone should be. Ridiculous medical history + all the off court red flags, 18+7 player. And all that on a 5-year max contract.

Apart from the ACL, which is a legit concern, what other events in his "ridiculous medical history" can you actually name"? Anaemia is a thing solved by nutrition/vitamins, so that does not count.

He had a plethora of lower body injuries. The dude missed more than 50% of his career including the off-season. And about anemia I don't know what his case is, but they didn't seem to solve it in the NYK, so I don't know if it's solvable.

[Phish Tank]

What? I wasn't even on the forum when the draft was happening last summer. I knew Luka is gonna be amazing right away, I've got lots of Euroleague friends, so I knew about Luka more than any NBA scout.
And I didn't say KP was a lot stronger now. You're confusing me with someone. But yeah, I'm extremely down on KP and everyone should be. Ridiculous medical history + all the off court red flags, 18+7 player. And all that on a 5-year max contract.

Apart from the ACL, which is a legit concern, what other events in his "ridiculous medical history" can you actually name"? Anaemia is a thing solved by nutrition/vitamins, so that does not count.

He had a plethora of lower body injuries. The dude missed more than 50% of his career including the off-season. And about anemia I don't know what his case is, but they didn't seem to solve it in the NYK, so I don't know if it's solvable.

Anemia's not solvable, it has to be managed. That means nutrition and all of that. Then again, KP has to listen to the nutritionists and all of them. Instead, he'll rely on his people...

[gh123]

Apart from the ACL, which is a legit concern, what other events in his "ridiculous medical history" can you actually name"? Anaemia is a thing solved by nutrition/vitamins, so that does not count.

He had a plethora of lower body injuries. The dude missed more than 50% of his career including the off-season. And about anemia I don't know what his case is, but they didn't seem to solve it in the NYK, so I don't know if it's solvable.

Anemia's not solvable, it has to be managed. That means nutrition and all of that. Then again, KP has to listen to the nutritionists and all of them. Instead, he'll rely on his people...

Oh right, I remember a Knicks fan told me that instead of getting proper treatment he got involved with some con master of a doctor lol. And it's always like this, he always gets together with bad apples and that's where some of his problems stem from.

[3toheadmelo]

He had a plethora of lower body injuries. The dude missed more than 50% of his career including the off-season. And about anemia I don't know what his case is, but they didn't seem to solve it in the NYK, so I don't know if it's solvable.

Anemia's not solvable, it has to be managed. That means nutrition and all of that. Then again, KP has to listen to the nutritionists and all of them. Instead, he'll rely on his people...

Oh right, I remember a Knicks fan told me that instead of getting proper treatment he got involved with some con master of a doctor lol. And it's always like this, he always gets together with bad apples and that's where some of his problems stem from.

His trainer is mad suspicious

Oh yes, there’s more to him than gargantuan arms and a fame hungry heart. Back in 2004, Colker’s expertise was called into question when a class action lawsuit in California, against a company called Cytodyne, claimed that Colker’s trial results concerning a weight-loss aid called Xenadrine RFA-1 (which contained now-illegal ephedra) were suspect. The judge ruled in favor of the plaintiffs and awarded them $12.5 million, saying that Colker lacked credibility. Though, that same study was upheld in a Utah court. Forbes ran a story about the whole ephedra mess that year, and mentioned Colker’s involvement specifically. That earned them an angry and defensive letter from his attorney.

Colker was also named, in 2003, in three other lawsuits in West Virginia, Illinois, and Missouri for pushing a weight-loss supplement called Hydroxycut. The suits claimed that Colker’s various test results—culled from a study at his own Peak Wellness Center in Greenwich (there’s an outpost in Beverly Hills, too)—were falsified in an effort to hide the fact that ephedra can, you know, kill you and stuff. He was dropped from the lawsuit in Missouri, and later appointed a chairperson on the “Scientific Advisory Board” for a, you guessed it, dietary supplement company.

Colker, in a sitdown with the Daily News last month, peeled back the curtain on the methods – some of which he proudly acknowledges are controversial in his field

[Phish Tank]

He had a plethora of lower body injuries. The dude missed more than 50% of his career including the off-season. And about anemia I don't know what his case is, but they didn't seem to solve it in the NYK, so I don't know if it's solvable.

Anemia's not solvable, it has to be managed. That means nutrition and all of that. Then again, KP has to listen to the nutritionists and all of them. Instead, he'll rely on his people...

Oh right, I remember a Knicks fan told me that instead of getting proper treatment he got involved with some con master of a doctor lol. And it's always like this, he always gets together with bad apples and that's where some of his problems stem from.

yep, it was this guy:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmqdme/meet-carlon-colker-the-personal-health-guru-behind-kristaps-porzingis

He worked with Shaq, Andre Agassi, Justin Bieber, and Allan Houston at different points. But he's a quack and has gotten himself in some trouble because of it.

He also worked with his own physical therapist from the Spanish League Manolo Valdivieso. Part of the shtick was that KP's team (Janis) wanted a role within the Knicks and they wanted his physical therapist to travel with him and be on staff.

NYK obviously said no to that and KP didn't go to any road games. Cuban conceded to their requests and here we are.

[MTJazzv3]

What really matters is how strong his legs are, especially his hamstrings, when they're 30-40 games into the season. Most players look great and improve their strength throughout the off season but lose all of it plus more during the season.

I think he'll be just fine, but he really needs to focus on strengthening his core and legs, especially the hamstrings to help protect that ACL.

Right? Upper body pounds and the the 15 lbs upstairs are gone 1/3 into the season. He still looks disproportionate. Lots of leverage on the knees when you're that tall and weight upstairs is overrated at his size.

[Pattycakes]

Swapping KP out for Dennis Smith Jr. is just about the most Knicksian thing the Knicks have ever done.

So you gonna ignore the 2 1st round picks with one unprotected that has potential to be a lottery pick

Mavs aren't sniffing the lottery if Luka and KP are healthy. It was an awful trade, I don't understand why Knicks fans want to die on Mt. Mills. You can be a fan but acknowledge our clown car front office.

Bruh bruh. Come on

[Capn'O]

Whether he's terrible or simply not that good at rebounding - if he's going to play center, his body of work to date doesn't cut it.

KP's a player that I think you need very specific complementary piece to maximize.
- an excellent facilitator
- a rebounding big
- a guy that can guard stretch 4s.

Obviously, if you have one player that can do two of those things, that's fantastic. Doncic provides some of those pieces. Zion, obviously, would have as well.



For the record, I do think the Knicks should have kept him - was never sold on going all in on 2019 - but there were concerns about his character and game in NY that didn't just walk away when he went to Dallas.

[sunskerr]

Im not trusting this picture. I've seen too many off season photos that build hype but then when the season starts the player looks the same.

[BigRedDog]

Yeah but he can travel consistently like Marcus Morris? Or space the floor with 17 footers like Taj Gibson? The Knicks rebuilt around two 30+ year old PF's who have 1993 skillsets. So who has the last laugh when the Knicks are hanging in tight vs the Wizards on a Tuesday night in March threatening to go less than 13 games below .500?

[gavran]

Yeah but he can travel consistently like Marcus Morris? Or space the floor with 17 footers like Taj Gibson? The Knicks rebuilt around two 30+ year old PF's who have 1993 skillsets. So who has the last laugh when the Knicks are hanging in tight vs the Wizards on a Tuesday night in March threatening to go less than 13 games below .500?

Sure buddy, the Knicks has rebuilt around Taj Gibson, Marcus Morris. Not disingenuous at all. Why not Wayne Ellington as their superstar, while we are at it?

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[MrOrange]

Anemia's not solvable, it has to be managed. That means nutrition and all of that. Then again, KP has to listen to the nutritionists and all of them. Instead, he'll rely on his people...

Oh right, I remember a Knicks fan told me that instead of getting proper treatment he got involved with some con master of a doctor lol. And it's always like this, he always gets together with bad apples and that's where some of his problems stem from.

yep, it was this guy:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmqdme/meet-carlon-colker-the-personal-health-guru-behind-kristaps-porzingis

He worked with Shaq, Andre Agassi, Justin Bieber, and Allan Houston at different points. But he's a quack and has gotten himself in some trouble because of it.

He also worked with his own physical therapist from the Spanish League Manolo Valdivieso. Part of the shtick was that KP's team (Janis) wanted a role within the Knicks and they wanted his physical therapist to travel with him and be on staff.

NYK obviously said no to that and KP didn't go to any road games. Cuban conceded to their requests and here we are.

Guys, this story is over a year old. He stopped cooperating with Colker around the time he went for rehab at Real Madrid facility. Which was summer 2018! Since then he has been engaged with other guys and his permanent trainer from Spain. So check your facts. AND: if he made bad choices (including trainers) under the influence of his brother, who I admit is a problem, it is FO's job to put his novice agent/brother in place and straighten KP's head. In year 1 already. Instead, the FO was more engaged in picking inept coaches, selecting poor rosters and making questionable draft selections and what not. Year in and out. EDIT: and how could I forget the disinterested Phil Jackson whose sole purpose seemed to impose an obsolete system on the team and head coaches together with his buddy Rambis? Also, while Steve Mills is still there, you cannot claim that the Knicks have completely brushed off the bad FO past. A lot of those bad decisions were actually on Mills.

[Pattycakes]

Im not trusting this picture. I've seen too many off season photos that build hype but then when the season starts the player looks the same.

Is a healthy KP really a bad thing if he never made another step in his evolution? I don’t think that they’re “sniffing the playoffs” or in the same room as the smell, but we’re not talking about Bargnani here, KP is an 18/9 player in his sleep if he’s healthy.

[melo4three]

Yeah but he can travel consistently like Marcus Morris? Or space the floor with 17 footers like Taj Gibson? The Knicks rebuilt around two 30+ year old PF's who have 1993 skillsets. So who has the last laugh when the Knicks are hanging in tight vs the Wizards on a Tuesday night in March threatening to go less than 13 games below .500?

I mean kinda disingenuous to mention those 2 when the real prizes of their offseason are bobby portis an elite shooting stretch 4 and Randle a 6'9 Harden that is about to be a superstar. Knicks will be in the playoffs no doubt about it.

[melo4three]

Im not trusting this picture. I've seen too many off season photos that build hype but then when the season starts the player looks the same.

Is a healthy KP really a bad thing if he never made another step in his evolution? I don’t think that they’re “sniffing the playoffs” or in the same room as the smell, but we’re not talking about Bargnani here, KP is an 18/9 player in his sleep if he’s healthy.

KP can't rebound well. Let's not forget Bargs was pretty close to what KP is offensively before some pretty bad injuries. We will see how KP does this season, but I ain't expecting much.

[MrOrange]

Yeah but he can travel consistently like Marcus Morris? Or space the floor with 17 footers like Taj Gibson? The Knicks rebuilt around two 30+ year old PF's who have 1993 skillsets. So who has the last laugh when the Knicks are hanging in tight vs the Wizards on a Tuesday night in March threatening to go less than 13 games below .500?

I mean kinda disingenuous to mention those 2 when the real prizes of their offseason are bobby portis an elite shooting stretch 4 and Randle a 6'9 Harden that is about to be a superstar. Knicks will be in the playoffs no doubt about it.

6'9 Harden? That would have been funny if you didn't really mean it. Other than that, the Knicks can be in the POs for a first-round exit by a sweep. Due to the nature of the Eastern Conference. That's the max you can hope for.