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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#41 » by Scott Hall » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:45 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:I saw on NBA TV Dennis Scott didn't have us making the playoffs and Sam Mitchell picked us 8th and had Atlanta
higher then us (6th)

It's absolutely unbelievable how brain dead so many of these analysts are after last year I lost respect for about 90%
of them. There's hardly anybody in the media who's opinion actually matters. Most of them don't watch enough games
or teams to know what they're talking about and others are just about hot takes to get people to pay attention to them.


I think this board is seriously overrating us this season. We've got a lot of things going against us. Title hangover (players taking longer to get into game shape such as Lowry), potential loss of motivation, huge holes at the 2 and 3, and no player capable of creating his own shot like Kawhi could. Also, a lot of the assumptions here are based on us going the entire season healthy. An injury to any one of our main guys would be devastating since we aren't very deep. We have the hallmarks of a 42-48 win team in my opinion. Regardless of what happens we'll easily make the playoffs though. To me, the win total isn't that important. I care more about Siakam's development, seeing which of our young guys could prove serviceable in the future, and seeing what Masai does with the expiring contracts. Our upside this season is the 2nd round of the playoffs.


I don't think the players will take long to get into game shape... having 3 months off from games isn't gonna kill them
and it won't take that long especially Gasol who's been playing pretty much all year. A few guys are on contract years
so there will be lots of motivation from the core guys.

The way I look at the Raptors is...

Might have the best front court in the East (Gasol/Siakam/Ibaka)
Have one of the best PG tandems in the East (Lowry and FVV)
Still will have an elite defense also one of the best in the East
2 potential All-Stars in Siakam and Lowry
Siakam has potential to be a top 15-20 player
Nurse said Siakam will play some SF which will help with lack of depth/talent there

This Raptor team seems like its close to where they were with DeRozan and Lowry leading the team except
with better role players around them and Siakam should be better then DeRozan was. The East also got a little
worse and there is no elite teams.

As for Playoffs hard to say I could see the ceiling being ECF
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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#42 » by Gold Dragon » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:26 am

We are a significantly worse team than last year and are clearly not the favourites in the East. But all the other top teams in the league both in both conferences have also gotten worse. And the teams that have improved still have a lot of holes in their lineups.

It is looking like a wide open league this coming season and teams 1-15 are all pretty close in ability. It should be an interesting year and anything can happen.
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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#43 » by DJ_RnC » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:08 pm

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TheBoi10 wrote:Portland is insanely overrated, they're the poster child of a mediocre squad for a half decade


Portland are the 2016 Raptors.

They made it to the conference finals, but any playoff team could knock them out.

They'll fall back down to Earth and probably get bounced in the first round in next year's playoffs.


Except Damian Lillard is way better than any player on the 2016 Raptors.
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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#44 » by Bankai » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:53 pm

DJ_RnC wrote:
tor1234567 wrote:
TheBoi10 wrote:Portland is insanely overrated, they're the poster child of a mediocre squad for a half decade


Portland are the 2016 Raptors.

They made it to the conference finals, but any playoff team could knock them out.

They'll fall back down to Earth and probably get bounced in the first round in next year's playoffs.


Except Damian Lillard is way better than any player on the 2016 Raptors.

Maybe, but the Raptors with Derozan kept beating them. I think you underestimate how scrappy that 2016 team was.
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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#45 » by DJ_RnC » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:00 pm

Bankai wrote:
DJ_RnC wrote:
tor1234567 wrote:
Portland are the 2016 Raptors.

They made it to the conference finals, but any playoff team could knock them out.

They'll fall back down to Earth and probably get bounced in the first round in next year's playoffs.


Except Damian Lillard is way better than any player on the 2016 Raptors.

Maybe, but the Raptors with Derozan kept beating them. I think you underestimate how scrappy that 2016 team was.


They were scrappy but so tough to watch offensively (until Lowry found his shot against Miami), it was ugly watching them win with our "stars" shooting 30% and barely beating inferior competition.

JV saved us against Indiana and Biyombo was easily the best part about the 2016 run.

Lillard is on another level compared to anyone we brought out in 2016 and Lillard has gotten better since.

I can see the parallels though, Portland was swept the year before (like the Raptors in 2015) and then made a run to the conference finals the following year.
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Re: Uncle perk still riding with Toronto 

Post#46 » by Michael Jordan » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:03 pm

I'm really not seeing the argument for Lakers over Clippers given the Lakers lack of depth and Lebron's age

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