CA Governer signs CA-SB206 - LOL at the NCAA

[KrAzY3]

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

The NCAA is a voluntary organization who sets their own rules. California has no jurisdiction over them. This will be fought over in court, but California doesn't get to make the NCAA's rules.

[meekrab]

Former CA college athletes should also be able to entitled to payments.

You sounds like the people arguing against free college educations because they had to pay for theirs.

[dockingsched]

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

The NCAA is a voluntary organization who sets their own rules. California has no jurisdiction over them. This will be fought over in court, but California doesn't get to make the NCAA's rules.

Yeah but we’re not talking about what decision the NCAA has made in reaction to this, we’re talking about this legislation and the schools it applies to.

[bisme37]

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

The NCAA is a voluntary organization who sets their own rules. California has no jurisdiction over them. This will be fought over in court, but California doesn't get to make the NCAA's rules.

CA can't make NCAA rules but isn't the NCAA under an obligation to adhere to CA rules when operating in CA?

[RCM88x]

Um, all of them since they’re all in California and this legislation applies to them. This seems obvious lol.

The question is if they are relevant to CFB and CBB nationally, and the answer to that is probably none.

USC Football, Stanford Football, UCLA Basketball and maybe UCLA and CAL Football are the only college sports in California that really matter to the NCAA and Conferences. I'd bet those first 4 programs bring in like 75% of the money for NCAA sports in California, and probably a similar amount to the PAC12.

Is the NCAA going to care if they lose out on USC Men's Volleyball? Eh, probably not.

Not sure what you mean when you ask “Is the NCAA going to care if they lose out on...”

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

And what will happen if the NCAA doesn't follow this? California has no control over the NCAA, only the schools it happens to administer within their borders.

[The High Cyde]

My state doesn't get stuff right most of the time, but this is a great step for student athletes.

Not sure what you mean but California leads on so many issues that the federal government is trying to remove their right to do so.

Well the federal government has always been a bit of a ****show in regards to their policies.
In California, things don't move fast enough for my liking. But it's all good, that's just government in general.

[ropjhk]

And which one of those 25 schools outside of the Pac-12 are relevant?

Um, all of them since they’re all in California and this legislation applies to them. This seems obvious lol.

The question is if they are relevant to CFB and CBB nationally, and the answer to that is probably none.

USC Football, Stanford Football, UCLA Basketball and maybe UCLA and CAL Football are the only college sports in California that really matter to the NCAA and Conferences. I'd bet those first 4 programs bring in like 75% of the money for NCAA sports in California, and probably a similar amount to the PAC12.

Is the NCAA going to care if they lose out on USC Men's Volleyball? Eh, probably not.

You say that probably none are relevant on the national stage but you contradict yourself in the next paragraph by listing (correctly) how USC, UCLA, Stanford and Cal are relevant.

Imagine you're a top football prospect deciding between USC and Oregon. All of a sudden California makes it so that you can earn extra money off your likeness playing for USC. That may be enough to get you to sign with USC.

If the California schools start dominating the national stage, other states will follow. Popular colleges with big audiences will get the better players and the less popular colleges will find it harder to compete. Scholarships may become less important to players as revenue from other sources grows.

This could be the beginning of the end of the NCAA as we know it. And I'm okay with that.

[KrAzY3]

CA can't make NCAA rules but isn't the NCAA under an obligation to adhere to CA rules when operating in CA?

This is where the NCAA can simply remove the California schools. California can make what ever rules they want up, but if their schools are not in the NCAA none of those will apply.

I'm not sure where this is going, but it's an overreach by the state of California. California simply can't make the rules for the NCAA, that's not their place. It's kind of like the state of California making the rules for this forum. They simply lack the jurisdiction. At worst the forum would have to ban people from the state or people from the state would be in violation of California law.

[xdrta+]

So the NCAA is going to ban the biggest media market in the country? Yeah, that will work. More likely, the NCAA will change some rules, CA will amend the law (there is a provision in the law for that) and it will be worked out peacefully. The have 3 years to do so.

[MagicMamba88]

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[clyde21]

me to the NCAA and to anyone that supports that cartel

[clyde21]

More like RIP the PAC12, granted this has pretty much been the case for the last 5 years.

LOL, you don't think other conferences are gonna follow suit here soon?

NCAA has two choices here: get ahead of this and start allowing players to make money, or get left in the dust cuz the train is already moving.

hopefully they get left in the dust and keep enablers with them.

[dockingsched]

CA can't make NCAA rules but isn't the NCAA under an obligation to adhere to CA rules when operating in CA?

This is where the NCAA can simply remove the California schools. California can make what ever rules they want up, but if their schools are not in the NCAA none of those will apply.

I'm not sure where this is going, but it's an overreach by the state of California. California simply can't make the rules for the NCAA, that's not their place. It's kind of like the state of California making the rules for this forum. They simply lack the jurisdiction. At worst the forum would have to ban people from the state or people from the state would be in violation of California law.

CA is perfectly within their power to set rules that must be followed if an organization wishes to operate within its borders.

Perhaps you think CA is overestimating their leverage and the NCAA will prefer to cut ties, but that’s a separate issue than thinking CA lacks the jurisdiction to make this decision.

[bisme37]

CA can't make NCAA rules but isn't the NCAA under an obligation to adhere to CA rules when operating in CA?

This is where the NCAA can simply remove the California schools. California can make what ever rules they want up, but if their schools are not in the NCAA none of those will apply.

I'm not sure where this is going, but it's an overreach by the state of California. California simply can't make the rules for the NCAA, that's not their place. It's kind of like the state of California making the rules for this forum. They simply lack the jurisdiction. At worst the forum would have to ban people from the state or people from the state would be in violation of California law.

CA is perfectly within their power to set rules that must be followed if an organization wishes to operate within its borders.

Perhaps you think CA is overestimating their leverage and the NCAA will prefer to cut ties, but that’s a separate issue than thinking CA lacks the jurisdiction to make this decision.

Yeah states set their own labor laws, environmental laws etc all the time. Walmart has to pay a higher wage to employees in CA than they do in Mississippi, and I'm sure they don't like it but there are still a bazillion Walmarts in CA.

CA has leverage to lead on this issue because the CA economy and market share is so huge. If the NCAA doesn't like it they can either suck it up or hash out a compromise I would think.

[RCM88x]

Um, all of them since they’re all in California and this legislation applies to them. This seems obvious lol.

The question is if they are relevant to CFB and CBB nationally, and the answer to that is probably none.

USC Football, Stanford Football, UCLA Basketball and maybe UCLA and CAL Football are the only college sports in California that really matter to the NCAA and Conferences. I'd bet those first 4 programs bring in like 75% of the money for NCAA sports in California, and probably a similar amount to the PAC12.

Is the NCAA going to care if they lose out on USC Men's Volleyball? Eh, probably not.

You say that probably none are relevant on the national stage but you contradict yourself in the next paragraph by listing (correctly) how USC, UCLA, Stanford and Cal are relevant.

Imagine you're a top football prospect deciding between USC and Oregon. All of a sudden California makes it so that you can earn extra money off your likeness playing for USC. That may be enough to get you to sign with USC.

If the California schools start dominating the national stage, other states will follow. Popular colleges with big audiences will get the better players and the less popular colleges will find it harder to compete. Scholarships may become less important to players as revenue from other sources grows.

This could be the beginning of the end of the NCAA as we know it. And I'm okay with that.

Maybe, I don't think it's going to suddenly make these programs powerhouses again. It will probably hurt other west cost schools until they change laws though.

I think they're going about this wrong, and it'll probably hurt them before it helps them, but who knows. I don't think a bunch of states are just going to jump on this though. Especially not the states with the programs the NCAA really value. But who knows.

[NY 567]

Very rare that the political class goes against a giant institution, so kudos to them here.

[LKN]

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

The NCAA is a voluntary organization who sets their own rules. California has no jurisdiction over them. This will be fought over in court, but California doesn't get to make the NCAA's rules.

The NCAA is subject to anti-trust law.... I'm not so sure they are actually going to want to go to court over this.

[JellosJigglin]

This governor is playing up to the clicks. His top priority should be the homeless crisis and the thousands of tons of opioids/fentanyl flooding across the border. Taking on the NCAA and doing interviews with Lebron really shouldn't be on the agenda right now. Clown show we got going on here in CA.

[LKN]

This governor is playing up to the clicks. His top priority should be the homeless crisis and the thousands of tons of opioids/fentanyl flooding across the border. Taking on the NCAA and doing interviews with Lebron really shouldn't be on the agenda right now. Clown show we got going on here in CA.

Yes, because there's no way he could ever do more than one thing at once.

And LOL at trying to blame current CA policy for the failed war on drugs that has been going on for decades.

[clyde21]

From the article “The bill prohibits the NCAA from barring a university from competition if its athletes are compensated for the use of their name, image or likeness beginning in 2023.”

The NCAA is a voluntary organization who sets their own rules. California has no jurisdiction over them. This will be fought over in court, but California doesn't get to make the NCAA's rules.

lol, of course California can enforce its own labor laws...ever heard of the minimum wage?