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Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1641 » by OldCeltics » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:56 pm

Triple7 wrote:I don’t buy it one bit. It’s one thing to have mental health problems, and to come out with it, like what derozan and Love did, which is very courageous. Kyrie looks like someone trying to come up with reasons to justify his jack ass attitude towards the team and teammates. The way he conducted interviews, he looks like someone who is so full of himself. I could be wrong though, and i hope he gets help if he indeed has mental problems/depression.


Exactly, all of you are smart enough not to fall for Kyrie's excuses.

From believing in conspiracy theories of flat earth, Illuminati and other, to talking like a pseudo intellectual, he's just the type to make up an excuse after causing drama, playing like crap.

He not only wasn't good himself in playoffs, he also belittled players in the media, and couldn't lead a chair. An its despicable to use a loss of his grandfather as an excuse for his character flaws.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1642 » by Parliament10 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:10 am

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Post#1643 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:39 am

One of those cops is pretty tall, and has a bit of a Steve Kerr look.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1644 » by LewisnotMiller » Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:05 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:One of those cops is pretty tall, and has a bit of a Steve Kerr look.


There's some sort of joke here about him being a deadly shooter, but I'm not making it.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1645 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:49 pm

LewisnotMiller wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:One of those cops is pretty tall, and has a bit of a Steve Kerr look.


There's some sort of joke here about him being a deadly shooter, but I'm not making it.


Whew! We dodged a bullet there.
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1646 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:33 pm

It’s always the overlooked, unappreciated white guy who turns out to be a big shooter. No one really knows why
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Post#1647 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:01 am

JackieMac mentioned in the Windbag pod that there's a bigger story behind Baynes getting traded. Reload seemed to imply the same in the past. I wish someone in the know would PM me what was up. If none of our bigs step up defensively this season, I'm gonna miss that goofy wildling viking.
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Post#1648 » by reload141 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:20 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:JackieMac mentioned in the Windbag pod that there's a bigger story behind Baynes getting traded. Reload seemed to imply the same in the past. I wish someone in the know would PM me what was up. If none of our bigs step up defensively this season, I'm gonna miss that goofy wildling viking.


I miss him so much:(
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Post#1649 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:41 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:JackieMac mentioned in the Windbag pod that there's a bigger story behind Baynes getting traded. Reload seemed to imply the same in the past. I wish someone in the know would PM me what was up. If none of our bigs step up defensively this season, I'm gonna miss that goofy wildling viking.


I miss him so much:(


I thought it was just that he opted in to the second year of his deal (probably taking a pay cut) with assurances we wouldn’t trade him..
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Post#1650 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:09 pm

At this point, I'm pretty sure Kanter calls the team daily and begs them to send him to media events LOL
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Post#1651 » by lon3lytoaster » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:44 pm

BigTrade92 wrote:At this point, I'm pretty sure Kanter calls the team daily and begs them to send him to media events LOL


Man, he even won a WWE title in MSG wearing a Celtics jersey. I love Kanter so much :lol:
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Post#1652 » by wildcat62 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:23 pm

Hoping for a big year out of him.
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Post#1653 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Oct 1, 2019 5:02 am

Not sure what to expect from this year's team.. the mood is better, but I think it'll be a big test immediately to see how much weight some of the players can bear. If Brown and Tatum truly step up, we could be a 55+ win team. I'm worried they both need at least another year - Tatum to develop physically, Brown to develop his skills. We're also going to be leaning on young and unproven players across the roster - Rozier's out, Edwards is in, plus Langford - Baynes, Horford and Morris are gone from the front court, where we're going to gamble on Grant Williams at the 4, Rob Williams, Poirier, Theis, and Kanter at the 5. A great opportunity for Ojeleye to step up and be counted, I hope he grabs it.

It looks to me like a developmental year, 45 wins, with Kemba and Hayward as better versions for us of guys like Amir Johnson, or Reddick for the Sixers - good enough and smart enough to keep us competitive and provide leadership and consistency through the team's ups and downs. Smart, if his shot's truly locked in, is a veteran presence, too.

More than 45 wins will take some precociousness from the Williams, career defense from Kanter, consistency from Tatum, without a breakdown in muscle mass over the course of the season, and a step up from either Jaylen or Langford as a scoring threat. Or, I guess, Smart.

We look more set up to trade away Hayward, Kanter, Theis, maybe Jaylen for younger assets than to make a splash getting someone like Beal. My bet is that we have some ups and downs and maybe make some trades that look like lateral moves and wreck chemistry. Hope I'm surprised.
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Post#1654 » by Triple7 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 8:17 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Not sure what to expect from this year's team.. the mood is better, but I think it'll be a big test immediately to see how much weight some of the players can bear. If Brown and Tatum truly step up, we could be a 55+ win team. I'm worried they both need at least another year - Tatum to develop physically, Brown to develop his skills. We're also going to be leaning on young and unproven players across the roster - Rozier's out, Edwards is in, plus Langford - Baynes, Horford and Morris are gone from the front court, where we're going to gamble on Grant Williams at the 4, Rob Williams, Poirier, Theis, and Kanter at the 5. A great opportunity for Ojeleye to step up and be counted, I hope he grabs it.

It looks to me like a developmental year, 45 wins, with Kemba and Hayward as better versions for us of guys like Amir Johnson, or Reddick for the Sixers - good enough and smart enough to keep us competitive and provide leadership and consistency through the team's ups and downs. Smart, if his shot's truly locked in, is a veteran presence, too.

More than 45 wins will take some precociousness from the Williams, career defense from Kanter, consistency from Tatum, without a breakdown in muscle mass over the course of the season, and a step up from either Jaylen or Langford as a scoring threat. Or, I guess, Smart.

We look more set up to trade away Hayward, Kanter, Theis, maybe Jaylen for younger assets than to make a splash getting someone like Beal. My bet is that we have some ups and downs and maybe make some trades that look like lateral moves and wreck chemistry. Hope I'm surprised.


Well for one, i’m really excited with the upcoming season, and all the possibilities for our team. First of, we replaced kyrie with kemba. Kyrie may have been a better talent, but fit and chemistry matters. Kemba may have been used to shoulder the load in charlotte, as evident with his iso mentality in the recent fiba, i think he can be a good playmaker here in boston. He’s coachable, humble and very likable. Next, we expect Hayward, to return to form this season. I’m sure he will be more confident and aggressive. When fully healthy, he can be our best player. Tatum and Brown can definitely take a leap this season. Especially Tatum, after that humbling experience last year. Both those guys have the tools to be really good offensively and defensively. I expect Brown to take a leap defensively. Smart with brown and Tatum can be really disruptive defensively with their length and athleticism. Kanter gives us another offensive option that we don’t have for years. His ability to post up gives us an inside outside option, that we don’t have with Horford and Baynes. I used to hate horford with his pick n pop on top of the key just outside the 3pt line. He may have hit them at a decent rate, but it’s still a low percentage shot, and we have less chance of getting an offensive board, with our big guy camping outside the 3pt line. I think Brad will be the key to our season. I’m positive he can develop kemba and kanter into decent defenders, or at least improve our team defense even with the two. I think we can be a top 3 team in the east easily if things works out. We have a better lineup than the nets minus KD, the raps and pacers. If a team of Lillard and CJ, can be top three in a loaded west, we can easily be in the east. or we could struggle with chemistry and Brad continue to suck as last season :lol: Either way, can’t wait for the season to start. Good vibes this time! :D
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Post#1655 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Oct 3, 2019 5:51 am

Rumored trade cost of Steven Adams: salary “relief”, young player, pick.

Exactly what they should ask, but the only team I could remotely see biting is Portland, if Whiteside bombs. Even then, Whiteside/pick would probably be as high as they go.
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Post#1656 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Oct 3, 2019 10:47 am

Adams, Winslow to Boston
Chris Paul, Gordon Hayward, Mike Muscala to Miami
Dragic (exp.), James Johnson, Meyers Leonard (exp.), Dion Waiters to OKC

Do the Thunder drop their demand for value if they can shed that much salary in one deal?
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Post#1657 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Oct 3, 2019 11:32 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Adams, Winslow to Boston
Chris Paul, Gordon Hayward, Mike Muscala to Miami
Dragic (exp.), James Johnson, Meyers Leonard (exp.), Dion Waiters to OKC

Do the Thunder drop their demand for value if they can shed that much salary in one deal?


I don't think they'd want James Johnson and Waiters without getting a prospect or picks back. As much salary as they are dumping in the deal, that is still $54 million that they have to eat over the next 2 years.
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Post#1658 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Oct 3, 2019 12:48 pm

Right, I think that’s the weak point in the idea - but I’m sure OKC can turn Dragic into something, James Johnson, too. So they might just be eating Waiters’ money. And he’s filler if they decide to “spend” picks to get a star.
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Post#1659 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Oct 3, 2019 1:33 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Right, I think that’s the weak point in the idea - but I’m sure OKC can turn Dragic into something, James Johnson, too. So they might just be eating Waiters’ money. And he’s filler if they decide to “spend” picks to get a star.


Yeah, I guess it's all about how desperate Clay Bennett is to dump salary. If they get off to a slow start and look like they will miss the playoffs, I'm sure their asking price drops drastically. Right now, apparently the Heat want a pick back with Paul's contract, so there's that. Maybe if the owner doesn't want to pay tax on a non-playoff team, and they can dump salary without giving up any of their own picks, then it is possible. (With that being said, I believe OKC only needs to dump about $4-5 million to get under the tax line)
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Re: Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player 

Post#1660 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Oct 3, 2019 5:08 pm

All I can say is, that lazy JB for Blake G trade article was just terrible. No real thought or rumor, just some dumb clickbait article to get me to read. Grats, it worked. They don't even mention a plausible trade that works under the CBA, just that it would be JB for Blake. Ok, we would have to include like a load of players or GH to match that making it more than just JB for Blake. I mean, JB/Smart/Theis and Poirer for Blake might work for salary. GH/JB for Blake would work. But either way we end up playing a big lineup of Kanter or Williams with Blake or start a rookie at SG or SF.
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