The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love?

[JellosJigglin]

B*tch azz fanbase.. F*ck the Lakers!! Ya'll gonna pay for that sh*t!!

Damn, hittin us hard like Kawhi's bearded sister.

O lawd

[theforumblue]

most LA sports fans like complaining and griping about the lakers more than they like the clippers. LA sport radio will spend time badmouthing the lakers rather than talking good about the clippers. why do you think that is? when clippers come up it's often in context of lakers. decades and generations of fandom don't turn just like that.

yeah lakers got bandwagoners and they might even outnumber some actual nba team's entire fanbase, but there are dedicated fans in LA/OC area that wouldn't think of switching teams and they absolutely outnumber all of clipper fans, hardcore and bandwagon, by a margin that won't be overcome even with another decade of clipper winning seasons.

win a championship and we can start to talk about what kind of inroads clippers are making in fanbase size. that's about it. maybe some of you guys are young and don't truly realize what "Clippers" brand used to represent for decades in LA/OC area not too long ago. Yeah it's great ownership changed hands and all that. but Clippers organization wasn't just laughed at, they were looked down upon and in some ways for good reason. "Losers" personified. Sterling may not be around anymore but his legacy hasn't been completely erased. In any other town the winning seasons of recent years and certainly winning seasons to come in the future may be good enough. Unfortunately the other team in town has too many rings. winning seasons are not enough.

i personally don't like ballmer at all and do not want to see him succeed, but lakers FO do suck hard and ballmer did manage to put a better FO together. i'm curious what the LA basketball landscape will be like in 10 years.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I'm curious why you don't like Ballmer?

Because I work on websites for living and much like Sterling and Clippers the disdain of Microsoft related personalities is pretty much cooked into my outlook on life.

and yet somehow I ended up working on a microsoft platform now i aint proud.

[mowcrowbar]

just move the damn team already for its dozen fans

There were plenty of Laker bandwagoners when the Clippers made the playoffs over them. lmao

[lakerz12]

I mean that's not true at all lmao. Stop spreading false information. Explain the hundreds of sell out arenas? Explain the countless times Chris Paul and Blake Griffin had high selling jerseys and got voted into all star games. Stop living in your bubble and experience the world we live in.

And to use tv ratings as a measurement for "fan support" is laughable. Especially when there are articles and stats out there that show Lakers viewership was also not that great during that time. Cable tv made watching teams hard.

The Clippers were hot for a season or two when they had "lob city" with CP3, Blake, and DeAndre.

But that was a bubble. It popped and no one cared anymore.

It's not like LA became a Clipper town or they ever had more fans than the Lakers.

Well, thats kind of the point. They were at least fairly popular locally (and nationally) when they were a 2nd round exit. They're now favored to win the championship. LA may not be a Clippers town today or tomorrow, but the support will obviously grown once they win at a high level.

And FWIW -- I do recall a handful of start-studded crowds at LAC games during the lob city era.

Yeah I'm not sure if and what we even disagree on or what point is being argued.

But, of course when you're in one of the largest cities/counties in the world you're going to get some attention if you have any success as a pro team.

And the Lakers sucked at the time so that helped.

If both the Lakers and Clippers are good, no one is going to move over to being a Clipper fan.

If you think that the Clippers are going to win titles and become the #1 team fanwise and impact wise in Los Angeles, I would have to strongly disagree.

They would have to win like 5 titles over the next 10-15 years to see any significant change in my opinion. The Laker roots run deep. And it's not looking like the Lakers will have a bad team whatsoever over the next several years.

[Jedi32]

Also can we stop this "Lakers were still the talk of the town" stuff? They weren't. During the Clippers run EVERYONE talked about the Clippers. Everyone. The only time Lakers were ever mentioned was when people starting spouting "Oh the Lakers have 16 championships though". "Talk to me when the Clippers have 16 championships". That's it. If making back handed comments towards the Clippers about the Lakers history means still being the talk of the town then sure I guess. But the truth, and believe me I'm right, is that the Clippers were very much the talk of the town. It's just people felt the need to mention the Lakers with the Clippers.

Talk is talk, regardless if it is negative or positive, and Los Angeles was talking about the Clippers. Saying Los Angeles didn't care is beyond stupid. They still talked about them. They were still jealous of them. They were still wondering why the Clippers were good and the Lakers were bad.

Where was all this so called clippers talk taking place? Even in bad times the lakers dominate sports radio and casual fan talk. If I'm not mistaken the lakers still had more national televised games when they were bad, so again I ask where was all this clippers talk taking place?

I don't think you read what I said. And I'll leave it at that.

I don't think you even know what you were trying to say in all that nonsense.

[socal74]

Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.

No one supported the clippers during that time besides their small loyal fanbase. The local tv ratings showed that. The

I mean that's not true at all lmao. Stop spreading false information. Explain the hundreds of sell out arenas? Explain the countless times Chris Paul and Blake Griffin had high selling jerseys and got voted into all star games. Stop living in your bubble and experience the world we live in.

And to use tv ratings as a measurement for "fan support" is laughable. Especially when there are articles and stats out there that show Lakers viewership was also not that great during that time. When "lob city" first began, ratings increased drastically. When the Lakers started to play poorly, ratings decreased drastically. Clippers ratings only began to dip during the whole flopping stage and they became hard to watch. Not because "no one cares about them".

Sellout arenas? Are you comparing selling out an arena vs having majority of support from a region(socal). I never said you never sold out any of your games. The lakers tv ratings were down by alot during the lob city era but it still doubled the clippers viewership. That's how bad you guys have it. No one gives a **** about your team except for the small fanbase that you have. Yes you can sell out your own arena but no one in LA gives a **** you guys.

I also love all these non LA residents chiming in like you guys know what's happening ing in socal.

[socal74]

Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.

No one supported the clippers during that time besides their small loyal fanbase. The local tv ratings showed that. The

I mean that's not true at all lmao. Stop spreading false information. Explain the hundreds of sell out arenas? Explain the countless times Chris Paul and Blake Griffin had high selling jerseys and got voted into all star games. Stop living in your bubble and experience the world we live in.

And to use tv ratings as a measurement for "fan support" is laughable. Especially when there are articles and stats out there that show Lakers viewership was also not that great during that time. When "lob city" first began, ratings increased drastically. When the Lakers started to play poorly, ratings decreased drastically. Clippers ratings only began to dip during the whole flopping stage and they became hard to watch. Not because "no one cares about them".

Sellout arenas? Are you comparing selling out an arena vs having majority of support from a region(socal). I never said you never sold out any of your games. The lakers tv ratings were down by alot during the lob city era but it still doubled the clippers viewership. That's how bad you guys have it. No one gives a **** about your team except for the small fanbase that you have. Yes you can sell out your own arena but no one in LA gives a **** you guys.

I also love all these non LA residents chiming in like you guys know what's happening ing in socal.

[right between the eyes]

Clippers have the better roster, coach and ownership. Lakers have the better history and fan support.

The only thing factual is coach, and that great coach hasn't even taken them to a conference final over how many years?

Doc Rivers is so goddamn overrated

So true..people quickly forget how he was about to get fired in BOSTON before they acquired Garnett and Allen..somehow nowadays he's hailed as one of the best coaches ..utter nonsense

[lamscott]

Dudes, Clippers aren't ever a thing in LA bro. Chill

[ejftw]

I feel like I'm reading ManU fan posts

[prophet_of_rage]

No one supported the clippers during that time besides their small loyal fanbase. The local tv ratings showed that. The

I mean that's not true at all lmao. Stop spreading false information. Explain the hundreds of sell out arenas? Explain the countless times Chris Paul and Blake Griffin had high selling jerseys and got voted into all star games. Stop living in your bubble and experience the world we live in.

And to use tv ratings as a measurement for "fan support" is laughable. Especially when there are articles and stats out there that show Lakers viewership was also not that great during that time. When "lob city" first began, ratings increased drastically. When the Lakers started to play poorly, ratings decreased drastically. Clippers ratings only began to dip during the whole flopping stage and they became hard to watch. Not because "no one cares about them".

Sellout arenas? Are you comparing selling out an arena vs having majority of support from a region(socal). I never said you never sold out any of your games. The lakers tv ratings were down by alot during the lob city era but it still doubled the clippers viewership. That's how bad you guys have it. No one gives a **** about your team except for the small fanbase that you have. Yes you can sell out your own arena but no one in LA gives a **** you guys.

I also love all these non LA residents chiming in like you guys know what's happening ing in socal.

This is truth. Go to LA and try to find Clippers coverage, merchandise or fans. There is a bigger competition between USC and UCLA than there is LAC and LAL

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[prophet_of_rage]

The Clippers were hot for a season or two when they had "lob city" with CP3, Blake, and DeAndre.

But that was a bubble. It popped and no one cared anymore.

It's not like LA became a Clipper town or they ever had more fans than the Lakers.

Well, thats kind of the point. They were at least fairly popular locally (and nationally) when they were a 2nd round exit. They're now favored to win the championship. LA may not be a Clippers town today or tomorrow, but the support will obviously grown once they win at a high level.

And FWIW -- I do recall a handful of start-studded crowds at LAC games during the lob city era.

Yeah I'm not sure if and what we even disagree on or what point is being argued.

But, of course when you're in one of the largest cities/counties in the world you're going to get some attention if you have any success as a pro team.

And the Lakers sucked at the time so that helped.

If both the Lakers and Clippers are good, no one is going to move over to being a Clipper fan.

If you think that the Clippers are going to win titles and become the #1 team fanwise and impact wise in Los Angeles, I would have to strongly disagree.

They would have to win like 5 titles over the next 10-15 years to see any significant change in my opinion. The Laker roots run deep. And it's not looking like the Lakers will have a bad team whatsoever over the next several years.

The Lakers would have to move. Even in that scenario the moment the Lakers were remotely good they would take over TV again. I don't think people understand how much revenue LAL brings in on its local TV deals and merchandising. That was Buss's only business and he didn't have a conglomerate behind him and the Lakers are at the top of the NBA in value thanks to intrinsic fan support.

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[freethedevil]

It will always be a Lakers town, even if the Clippers win.

That's never been and never will be how it worked. Fans care about the most recent winning, not who own in the past.[/qu

I doubt you even believe this

Look at your own city bud, LAFC>>>LAG fandom now.

[TheRealKaboom]

Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.

The "theme" when the Clippers were good was Blake Griffin and CP3 getting relentlessly booed every time they showed their face in public like at Dodger games.

And that was when the Lakers were the likes of Bob Sacre, Swaggy P, and Jordan Hill.

You're not from Los Angeles. You can wish and feel and hope it isn't like that here all you want, but it won't change anything.

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[macNcheese3]

Clippers have been a disgrace historically, not really surprised.

[BallerTalk]

Lakers fans vs Clippers fans

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.

The "theme" when the Clippers were good was Blake Griffin and CP3 getting relentlessly booed every time they showed their face in public like at Dodger games.

And that was when the Lakers were the likes of Bob Sacre, Swaggy P, and Jordan Hill.

You're not from Los Angeles. You can wish and feel and hope it isn't like that here all you want, but it won't change anything.

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No wishing here bud, I really dgaf about what it’s like in LA. But it’s stupid to say that some Lakers fans wouldnt support the Clippers in the Finals if the Lakers were out early. The clippers never had any real success so it’s short sighted to completely dismiss it.

[Clemenza]

Dudes, Clippers aren't ever a thing in LA bro. Chill

We are now. That's for sure. You mad

[azcatz11]

Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.

The "theme" when the Clippers were good was Blake Griffin and CP3 getting relentlessly booed every time they showed their face in public like at Dodger games.

And that was when the Lakers were the likes of Bob Sacre, Swaggy P, and Jordan Hill.

You're not from Los Angeles. You can wish and feel and hope it isn't like that here all you want, but it won't change anything.

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No wishing here bud, I really dgaf about what it’s like in LA. But it’s stupid to say that some Lakers fans wouldnt support the Clippers in the Finals if the Lakers were out early. The clippers never had any real success so it’s short sighted to completely dismiss it.

Would the Sox fans support the Cubs and vice versa?

[sfernald]

The second he wins a championship for LA, everyone but the staunchest Kobe fans will be wearing his jersey.

I love how all these non LA residents sit here and talk like they know how much LA loves the Lakers. It's funny how the **** ass east coast can be die hard but for some reason LA cant. Southern Cali in general loves the Lakers and Dodgers. Not just LA. Ain't nothing changing that in my lifetime

Look I’ve lived in SoCal my whole life. These laker fans are mostly sheep. They will jump on the bandwagon presented when push comes to shove. This is just human nature. The younger the fan, the faster the uptake to the legend of LA Kawhi.