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god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam typempharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
K-DOT wrote:His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam typempharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
I mean, he's good but I don't think you can get very far with him as your best player
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K-DOT wrote:His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam typempharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
I mean, he's good but I don't think you can get very far with him as your best player
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god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
randle or blake ? and the answer is yes to either.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
mpharris36 wrote:K-DOT wrote:His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam typempharris36 wrote:
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
I mean, he's good but I don't think you can get very far with him as your best player
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If your best player simply can’t just will a team to victory late in games it’s tough to be a good team because so many games are won and lost in the 4th qtr. randle isn’t a guy you can just give the ball and get out of the way because you know he’s going to make a play.
No fault of his own he’s just not that dude.
robillionaire wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i mean, it's mostly about how good your top players are. if randle can play on something like a blake griffin level now it will mean a lot more than going 12 deep instead of 8 deep. and you're gonna need a jump from a couple players.
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
You mean best player on his team? I guess he's there in a tier with kevin love, terry rozier, trae young, zach lavine, whoever the best player on the grizzlies is, vucevic, siakam/lowry, and also he's currently better than zion and will put up better numbers this year fight me
god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:K-DOT wrote:His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam type
I mean, he's good but I don't think you can get very far with him as your best player
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If your best player simply can’t just will a team to victory late in games it’s tough to be a good team because so many games are won and lost in the 4th qtr. randle isn’t a guy you can just give the ball and get out of the way because you know he’s going to make a play.
No fault of his own he’s just not that dude.
he seems to be working on his handle and shooting off the dribble a lot this summer but he definitely hasn't been that guy in the past. the closer on this team will probably be trier. the way lou williams was for the clippers last year. maybe rj too if his jumper looks better than expected to start the season. but probably trier.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
randle or blake ? and the answer is yes to either.
That’s correct and Blake has broken down but I’ve always felt he got the short end of the stick in terms of being a really good player. When healthy dude puts up monster numbers.
Randle the journey is still out if he can’t create for his teammates like Blake can do.
But either player is far down the list of teams best players in the NBA.
mpharris36 wrote:robillionaire wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
You mean best player on his team? I guess he's there in a tier with kevin love, terry rozier, trae young, zach lavine, whoever the best player on the grizzlies is, vucevic, siakam/lowry, and also he's currently better than zion and will put up better numbers this year fight me
I would happen to agree but we have seen what love does when he was the best player. At least trae young and Lavine can iso at the end of games and create for others. It’s always difficult to have a big man be your best player in today’s NBA especially if he isn’t a good defensive player (which randle isn’t)
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
If your best player simply can’t just will a team to victory late in games it’s tough to be a good team because so many games are won and lost in the 4th qtr. randle isn’t a guy you can just give the ball and get out of the way because you know he’s going to make a play.
No fault of his own he’s just not that dude.
he seems to be working on his handle and shooting off the dribble a lot this summer but he definitely hasn't been that guy in the past. the closer on this team will probably be trier. the way lou williams was for the clippers last year. maybe rj too if his jumper looks better than expected to start the season. but probably trier.
It always comes back to trier?!?!? Lol
No but jokes aside your probably right. Unless DSJ makes that step as well.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
If your best player simply can’t just will a team to victory late in games it’s tough to be a good team because so many games are won and lost in the 4th qtr. randle isn’t a guy you can just give the ball and get out of the way because you know he’s going to make a play.
No fault of his own he’s just not that dude.
he seems to be working on his handle and shooting off the dribble a lot this summer but he definitely hasn't been that guy in the past. the closer on this team will probably be trier. the way lou williams was for the clippers last year. maybe rj too if his jumper looks better than expected to start the season. but probably trier.
It always comes back to trier?!?!? Lol
No but jokes aside your probably right. Unless DSJ makes that step as well.
god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:
he seems to be working on his handle and shooting off the dribble a lot this summer but he definitely hasn't been that guy in the past. the closer on this team will probably be trier. the way lou williams was for the clippers last year. maybe rj too if his jumper looks better than expected to start the season. but probably trier.
It always comes back to trier?!?!? Lol
No but jokes aside your probably right. Unless DSJ makes that step as well.
why do you think i like him ? lol. it's not because he's the greatest player in the world but he's the only player who can create for himself off the dribble. and he's an efficient shooter too. he's the most skilled offensive player on the entire team.
Yeah, I just don't see a realistic scenario where we're in playoff contention this yeargod shammgod wrote:K-DOT wrote:His per36 numbers compare to a Montrezl Harrell or Siakam typempharris36 wrote:
No offense to randle but he’s got to be one of the worst best players in the NBA right?
I mean, he's good but I don't think you can get very far with him as your best player
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he's gonna have to take a jump for us to even just be flirting with the playoffs.
and not just him. dennis too. and the young guys you expect to be better like mitch & trier. knox, frank a little hopefully.
even in a best case scenario, this team will never be great unless
a - somebody great joins it
b - someone we draft/have already drafted turnouts great.
mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
It always comes back to trier?!?!? Lol
No but jokes aside your probably right. Unless DSJ makes that step as well.
why do you think i like him ? lol. it's not because he's the greatest player in the world but he's the only player who can create for himself off the dribble. and he's an efficient shooter too. he's the most skilled offensive player on the entire team.
And that is why I think anyone thinking we are winning anywhere near 30 games is a stretch
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