Training Camp Thread, 2019-20 -- Strus, Gates & Maten Waived

[Slartibartfast]

Season hasn't even started and already trashing first year player.

You realize they reworked his shot right? Sorry I am not ecstatic about what I saw

Luckily he is going to get a ton of work up in Maine

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Wasn't gonna post the vid, but yeh there's a strange hitch going on at the end me no likey.

Looks like the thumb flick is still there.

The proof will be in the pudding.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Slartibartfast]

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Disappointed Brad didn't go with the playing separately as individuals strategy.

[Parliament10]

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[Parliament10]

They're doing Two-a-Days right now, right?

[Green89]

What was he doing there?

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[CelticsLV]

Dial back the Romeo excitement, the twitter clips from today of his shot look horrible

Season hasn't even started and already trashing first year player.

You realize they reworked his shot right? Sorry I am not ecstatic about what I saw

Luckily he is going to get a ton of work up in Maine

You do relise it was said in jest? After your media day comment. Others can't feel underwhelmed about something Celtics related, at least on your watch.

[Parliament10]

Season hasn't even started and already trashing first year player.

You realize they reworked his shot right? Sorry I am not ecstatic about what I saw

Luckily he is going to get a ton of work up in Maine

You do relise it was said in jest? After your media day comment. Others can't feel underwhelmed about something Celtics related, at least on your watch.

Romeo Langford is likely 3rd String at this point, right?
We're going to have a Big Contingent up there in Maine.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Langford pushes the ball with his left thumb? It looks like it - his left hand flicks forward and follows through as much as his shooting hand does.

[100proof]

I have lower expectations for romeo than I do Carson and William's.

I don't expect anything at all from romeo

That is reasonable because we’ve seen those two excel in SL but we haven’t seen Romeo. But what if he is the best of all 3? That is why I am excited to see him.....we have no idea how he stacks up against NBA talent.

Yep - he's the guy I'm most excited about.

As for expectations, he is young with tons of question marks and competition, but Brad did a pretty great job prepping Jaylen and Tatum from the get-go.

And Langford isn't physically overmatched like an RJ Hunter or helpless defensively like James Young. He's got an NBA-ready frame, legit wing size, solid quickness, strength and instincts for man D. He can also rebound, fill a lane, cut and finish. That's basically the skill package that got Jaylen on the floor during the first half of his rookie year.

He'll need to be able to hit spot-up 3s to enlarge his role, but I think that's a reasonable hope. And even if he doesn't Brad has given plenty of minutes to poor shooting guards and wings who can handle the ball (Rozier/Smart/ET)

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

[Bar Fight]

Team seems like a solid 5th seed. Hope they prove me wrong

[Homerclease]

Anyone see Tacko dunk on the frenchman 1 on 1 in the post? Getting excited...

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Last spot is going to Tacko. They are just wasting time at this point

[100proof]

Anyone see Tacko dunk on the frenchman 1 on 1 in the post? Getting excited...

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Last spot is going to Tacko. They are just wasting time at this point

Taco is taking every opportunity with 100% effort.

Gotta love that.

[Andrew McCeltic]

That is reasonable because we’ve seen those two excel in SL but we haven’t seen Romeo. But what if he is the best of all 3? That is why I am excited to see him.....we have no idea how he stacks up against NBA talent.

Yep - he's the guy I'm most excited about.

As for expectations, he is young with tons of question marks and competition, but Brad did a pretty great job prepping Jaylen and Tatum from the get-go.

And Langford isn't physically overmatched like an RJ Hunter or helpless defensively like James Young. He's got an NBA-ready frame, legit wing size, solid quickness, strength and instincts for man D. He can also rebound, fill a lane, cut and finish. That's basically the skill package that got Jaylen on the floor during the first half of his rookie year.

He'll need to be able to hit spot-up 3s to enlarge his role, but I think that's a reasonable hope. And even if he doesn't Brad has given plenty of minutes to poor shooting guards and wings who can handle the ball (Rozier/Smart/ET)

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

I’m kind of neutral on him, I know he has fans here - but looking the part doesn’t always mean getting the part - I can remember when Harold Miner was the next Jordan.

It was a deep draft for shooting guards - Keldon Johnson and Alexander-Walker were interesting, too - and there was Bitadze still on the board as a 5. But they were basically right on Rozier in 2015, so I’m giving Langford the benefit of the doubt. And it’s very very early.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Yep - he's the guy I'm most excited about.

As for expectations, he is young with tons of question marks and competition, but Brad did a pretty great job prepping Jaylen and Tatum from the get-go.

And Langford isn't physically overmatched like an RJ Hunter or helpless defensively like James Young. He's got an NBA-ready frame, legit wing size, solid quickness, strength and instincts for man D. He can also rebound, fill a lane, cut and finish. That's basically the skill package that got Jaylen on the floor during the first half of his rookie year.

He'll need to be able to hit spot-up 3s to enlarge his role, but I think that's a reasonable hope. And even if he doesn't Brad has given plenty of minutes to poor shooting guards and wings who can handle the ball (Rozier/Smart/ET)

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

I’m kind of neutral on him, I know he has fans here - but looking the part doesn’t always mean getting the part - I can remember when Harold Miner was the next Jordan.

It was a deep draft for shooting guards - Keldon Johnson and Alexander-Walker were interesting, too - and there was Bitadze still on the board as a 5. But they were basically right on Rozier in 2015, so I’m giving Langford the benefit of the doubt. And it’s very very early.

To me, he gives off a James Young sort of vibe. Hope I'm wrong about that.

[Turgon]

Anyone see Tacko dunk on the frenchman 1 on 1 in the post? Getting excited...

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Last spot is going to Tacko. They are just wasting time at this point

Taco is taking every opportunity with 100% effort.

Gotta love that.

Taco needs to be in.

The League loves him.
Fans love him.
Casuals love him.
... And he looks like he can be useful as a niche player.
What more can you expect from your 15th spot?

[Andrew McCeltic]

I could see us hiring Joerger to replace one of the b-list assistant coaches (I.e. not Kara Lawson)

[cloverleaf]

That is reasonable because we’ve seen those two excel in SL but we haven’t seen Romeo. But what if he is the best of all 3? That is why I am excited to see him.....we have no idea how he stacks up against NBA talent.

Yep - he's the guy I'm most excited about.

As for expectations, he is young with tons of question marks and competition, but Brad did a pretty great job prepping Jaylen and Tatum from the get-go.

And Langford isn't physically overmatched like an RJ Hunter or helpless defensively like James Young. He's got an NBA-ready frame, legit wing size, solid quickness, strength and instincts for man D. He can also rebound, fill a lane, cut and finish. That's basically the skill package that got Jaylen on the floor during the first half of his rookie year.

He'll need to be able to hit spot-up 3s to enlarge his role, but I think that's a reasonable hope. And even if he doesn't Brad has given plenty of minutes to poor shooting guards and wings who can handle the ball (Rozier/Smart/ET)

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

I agree that Langford could well be their one bad pick. But I figured it was the Indiana thing and Brad that led to their taking him.

[Slartibartfast]

That is reasonable because we’ve seen those two excel in SL but we haven’t seen Romeo. But what if he is the best of all 3? That is why I am excited to see him.....we have no idea how he stacks up against NBA talent.

Yep - he's the guy I'm most excited about.

As for expectations, he is young with tons of question marks and competition, but Brad did a pretty great job prepping Jaylen and Tatum from the get-go.

And Langford isn't physically overmatched like an RJ Hunter or helpless defensively like James Young. He's got an NBA-ready frame, legit wing size, solid quickness, strength and instincts for man D. He can also rebound, fill a lane, cut and finish. That's basically the skill package that got Jaylen on the floor during the first half of his rookie year.

He'll need to be able to hit spot-up 3s to enlarge his role, but I think that's a reasonable hope. And even if he doesn't Brad has given plenty of minutes to poor shooting guards and wings who can handle the ball (Rozier/Smart/ET)

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

Langford was plenty willing to defer for Indiana. That was a recurring strain of criticism - that he didn't take over like someone of his talent should. Too willing to kick out to lesser threats when PNR or triple threat didn't yield a great angle for a drive

He also defended. Was poor off-ball, especially early in the year, but repeatedly defended the opponent's best wing and acquitted himself pretty well.

Passing is definitely an area he needs to improve, but he wasn't a ballhog by any stretch. Prone to tunnel vision on occasion, but he can and did pass the ball willingly.

Langford's high risk areas are shot and motor. If he's Evan Turner from beyond 18 feet, his offensive value is strictly limited because he's not that explosive. If his motor revs too low, he won't be able to get much value out of his strength and athleticism.

The rest of his game is quite low risk. He doesn't have any major physical hurdles to overcome. No character red flags. He's coachable. His skill package is diverse.

Without going to extremes, I think his lower range career outcome is 10th/11th man, like late career Marquis Daniels or Flip Murray (versatile guards hampered by shooting inefficiency and defensive challenges). His middle range would be guys like John Salmons, Anthony Parker, Ron Mercer, Larry Hughes and Evan Turner (flawed but useful 4th-7th man guards). With an upper range of fringe all-star like Joe Johnson and Gordon Hayward.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Langford had/showed an unwillingness to pass, defend or defer on his college team. So while he may have the physical tools, not sure he has the mental.
I think Langford was a high risk, medium reward type pick that will take a couple years to show out at all.

I also believe he was chosen purely based on availability and the uncertainty of both Hayward and Browns spots on the team in 2020.

I’m kind of neutral on him, I know he has fans here - but looking the part doesn’t always mean getting the part - I can remember when Harold Miner was the next Jordan.

It was a deep draft for shooting guards - Keldon Johnson and Alexander-Walker were interesting, too - and there was Bitadze still on the board as a 5. But they were basically right on Rozier in 2015, so I’m giving Langford the benefit of the doubt. And it’s very very early.

To me, he gives off a James Young sort of vibe. Hope I'm wrong about that.

Yeah. Good comparison.

Also, rule of thumb for me - never trust a man named Romeo. I hope I'm wrong too.