The Jarrett Culver Thread

[Jedzz]

Culver is going to be a pretty decent player I believe. Right pick for once.

That's great. But let's let him hit the game floor first before the claims hit the floor.

I just don't want hype basketball. I'm not selling tickets and I'm just guessing that you aren't either. That's the team's job and that's what these reports are.

If Culver is already special, that's wonderful. But if he ends up looking like a rookie that's fine too, as long as he isn't a 35 minute starter because of hype - if that's all he is right now.

[Calinks]

Cant get my hopes up too high have heard this all before. Got to see him in action.

[life_saver]

I don't doubt Culver's work ethic but I think the biggest question regarding Culver is whether he can become an efficient shooter or not.

[mandurugo]

Culver is going to be a pretty decent player I believe. Right pick for once.

That's great. But let's let him hit the game floor first before the claims hit the floor.

I just don't want hype basketball. I'm not selling tickets and I'm just guessing that you aren't either. That's the team's job and that's what these reports are.

If Culver is already special, that's wonderful. But if he ends up looking like a rookie that's fine too, as long as he isn't a 35 minute starter because of hype - if that's all he is right now.

Fair point. Your multiple points about Nowell somewhat belie it. Hopefully both rookies will succeed to the level of their supporters.

[Jedzz]

Culver is going to be a pretty decent player I believe. Right pick for once.

That's great. But let's let him hit the game floor first before the claims hit the floor.

I just don't want hype basketball. I'm not selling tickets and I'm just guessing that you aren't either. That's the team's job and that's what these reports are.

If Culver is already special, that's wonderful. But if he ends up looking like a rookie that's fine too, as long as he isn't a 35 minute starter because of hype - if that's all he is right now.

Fair point. Your multiple points about Nowell somewhat belie it. Hopefully both rookies will succeed to the level of their supporters.

That's fair to say, as I have been adamant about Nowell. But I've also tried hard to show what he's already shown on a court in doing so. I haven't just been make fantastical claims with heresay, or claiming he should be a starter or unseat our PG vet. Just that what he's shown should earn him a shot at minutes to continue to prove himself instead of the alternative. The claims on Culver have obviously been much more rampant and wide spread.

Agreed, hopefully both succeed.

[KGdaBom]

Will he start?


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Yes. I think from Day one, but certainly before December.

[KGdaBom]

That's great. But let's let him hit the game floor first before the claims hit the floor.

I just don't want hype basketball. I'm not selling tickets and I'm just guessing that you aren't either. That's the team's job and that's what these reports are.

If Culver is already special, that's wonderful. But if he ends up looking like a rookie that's fine too, as long as he isn't a 35 minute starter because of hype - if that's all he is right now.

Fair point. Your multiple points about Nowell somewhat belie it. Hopefully both rookies will succeed to the level of their supporters.

That's fair to say, as I have been adamant about Nowell. But I've also tried hard to show what he's already shown on a court in doing so. I haven't just been make fantastical claims with heresay, or claiming he should be a starter or unseat our PG vet. Just that what he's shown should earn him a shot at minutes to continue to prove himself instead of the alternative. The claims on Culver have obviously been much more rampant and wide spread.

Agreed, hopefully both succeed.

Jedzz I encourage you to prepare for the shock of Culver being better than Nowell. Honestly I will be shocked if Nowell is better than Culver.

[thinktank]

Nowell may be a better shooter than Culver but that’s probably his only advantage, if that.

Culver is likely to be a significantly better defender, as good or better passer and rebounder, and Culver is way more athletic. I think Culver’s athleticism will surprise folks. He’s got a 40 something inch vertical leap that nobody even talks about.

[Jedzz]

Jedzz I encourage you to prepare for the shock of Culver being better than Nowell. Honestly I will be shocked if Nowell is better than Culver.

I encourage you to stop comparing them.

Why must you compare them? I'm not. The only comparison made here has been about the level of claims and amount of claims. For almost everyone is just anointing Culver as a starter in the NBA without ever seeing him play in the NBA yet. That's a crazy difference from basically just me claiming Nowell deserves a roster spot and some minutes to prove he deserves to be here and not stashed in the G league. At least lately I've seen a few here add Nowell to the back end of their lineups which is better than not listing him at all.

Can you admit no one has been comparing them as players? One has the top 10 first round draft hype. One does not. For most people that seems to be the difference of wanting a player to start asap or else sent to the G league. That's as deep as it goes and it seems their whole career is defined forever already. Sorry, I'm not that shallow.

[Klomp]

I encourage you to stop comparing them.

Why must you compare them? I'm not. The only comparison made here has been about the level of claims and amount of claims. For almost everyone is just anointing Culver as a starter in the NBA without ever seeing him play in the NBA yet. That's a crazy difference from basically just me claiming Nowell deserves a roster spot and some minutes to prove he deserves to be here and not stashed in the G league. At least lately I've seen a few here add Nowell to the back end of their lineups which is better than not listing him at all.

Can you admit no one has been comparing them as players? One has the top 10 first round draft hype. One does not. For most people that seems to be the difference of wanting a player to start asap or else sent to the G league. That's as deep as it goes and it seems their whole career is defined forever already. Sorry, I'm not that shallow.

You were comparing them this summer...

Does anyone here have an open enough mind to see a possibility that Jaylen Nowell could already be, or eventually be, a better NBA player than Culver?

[Jedzz]

You were comparing them this summer...

Does anyone here have an open enough mind to see a possibility that Jaylen Nowell could already be, or eventually be, a better NBA player than Culver?

No. That is a question I posed to people to get them to look inwards and reassess how they are annointing our top draft picks as instant starters but can't leave space in their noggins for the possibility that others could be better players.

As you once tried to tell me Klomp, "Reading is hard."

[beezy]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

[minimus]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I think he has just enough athleticism to play in NBA. What I want to see from him now is healthy decision making skills and shot selection. I believe that he has enough tools to succeed but the most importan is his feel for the game. Plus I hope he will continue to develop his jumpshot, I see him as Victor Oladipo type of player. 18ppg + 4rpg + 4apg next season.

[thinktank]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I’m not buying the claim he has “college athlete” athleticism. The guy can sky. This is hang from your armpit vert:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/bw34gh/jarret_culver_vertical_jump/

[KGdaBom]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I Highly doubt that Culver will get many shots blocked at all. He is tall and long for his position and has a 40 plus inch vertical.

[KGdaBom]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I think he has just enough athleticism to play in NBA. What I want to see from him now is healthy decision making skills and shot selection. I believe that he has enough tools to succeed but the most importan is his feel for the game. Plus I hope he will continue to develop his jumpshot, I see him as Victor Oladipo type of player. 18ppg + 4rpg + 4apg next season.

I would be very good with Victor Oladipo 2.0.

[KGdaBom]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I’m not buying the claim he has “college athlete” athleticism. The guy can sky. This is hang from your armpit vert:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/bw34gh/jarret_culver_vertical_jump/

Great pic. Any player who can get his head above the rim is a skywalker and his head is easily above the rim.

[thinktank]

Culver is a big enigma to me right now. Of the clips I've watched of him the biggest thing I think he'll struggle with is the athleticism of the NBA. He looks like a good "college athlete" to me. He's going to get his share of balls blocked back in his face for a while. Can he adjust?

I’m not buying the claim he has “college athlete” athleticism. The guy can sky. This is hang from your armpit vert:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/bw34gh/jarret_culver_vertical_jump/

Great pic. Any player who can get his head above the rim is a skywalker and his head is easily above the rim.

In the comments it says Lakers do a two-step vertical measurement and Culver’s was FORTY FIVE INCHES.

[Klomp]

In the comments it says Lakers do a two-step vertical measurement and Culver’s was FORTY FIVE INCHES.

The two-step is the standard at the combine, but I think the Lakers let that slide a bit at their workouts. Anyways, for comparison Zach LaVine had a 46 inch vert at his Lakers workout.

[thinktank]

In the comments it says Lakers do a two-step vertical measurement and Culver’s was FORTY FIVE INCHES.

The two-step is the standard at the combine, but I think the Lakers let that slide a bit at their workouts. Anyways, for comparison Zach LaVine had a 46 inch vert at his Lakers workout.

I remember that about Zach.

Why do you think they let it slide? Just curious. Are their measurements more generous than other teams or something?