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HEZI · Post #701 » by **HEZI** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:45 pm

Lets be real, Frank can't run a team for 30+ mins a game and sustain that level of defense for 82 games. Something has to give, offense would suck, he would probably be in foul trouble, we would still stink

Post #702 » by **K_ick_God** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:45 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:Does anyone know when our official measurements will be released? Most curious about Frank and RJ.

Frank came in at 7'-1.5" with a 21-foot wingspan.

Post #703 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:47 pm

mpharris36 wrote:I think the dynamic of being able to nearly switch every screen in any scenario makes you a much better defense. Certain times you have to switch and having a lineup where you can do that 1-5 brings another element to a defense. It’s why when frank is paired next to a mobile 5 guy like KP/Mitch you usually get top defensive results.

Frank is probably our only good defensive perimeter player too. (maybe Dot too)

3toheadmelo · Post #704 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:51 pm

GONYK wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
GONYK wrote:
We'd probably have a top 10 defense in the league though

I doubt that replacing Frank with DSJ in the lineup is gonna make us a top 10 defensive team. Come on fam

It did last year (Frank and Mitch together)

Yeah on the smallest sample size ever lol

Milk · Post #705 » by **Milk** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:53 pm

Read on Twitter

Fat · Post #706 » by **Fat** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:53 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

sounds like Fiz stole some sets from team France. Which is probably the best thing I've heard all offseason.

Watch on YouTube

Post #707 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:54 pm

HEZI wrote:Lets be real, Frank can't run a team for 30+ mins a game and sustain that level of defense for 82 games. Something has to give, offense would suck, he would probably be in foul trouble, we would still stink

We should play him a lot of minutes next to RJ, DSJ, even Payton and Trier so he wouldn't have to run the offense himself. Find good balance with the lineups....I mean we will still probably not be great no matter what, but balancing the lineups would probably give us our best results.

I think Frank would be key in that with his versatility, IF he can continue to play like FIBA Frank.

Post #708 » by **HerSports85** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:59 pm

Juco24 wrote:
Newyorknick94 wrote:
Triple C wrote:

Read on Twitter

That should be the starting line up

That lineup has Mitch in constant foul trouble

This why starting Morris or Frank is a must

Post #709 » by **GONYK** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:02 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
GONYK wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I doubt that replacing Frank with DSJ in the lineup is gonna make us a top 10 defensive team. Come on fam

It did last year (Frank and Mitch together)

Yeah on the smallest sample size ever lol

Trueish, but it was our 5th most played lineup all season :lol:

Sample size was big enough to know it was better than every single other lineup.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #710 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:04 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

sounds like Fiz stole some sets from team France. Which is probably the best thing I've heard all offseason.

Watch on YouTube

It's a shame that Lativa wasn't there this year because the offense they ran reminded me of the Spurs system.

Juco24 · Post #711 » by **Juco24** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:09 pm

HerSports85 wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Newyorknick94 wrote:That should be the starting line up

That lineup has Mitch in constant foul trouble

This why starting Morris or Frank is a must

Agreed.

I've said this in-depth before.... and this coming from a Knox supporter-- dude still can't play defense and doesn't box out. Pair that with JR who's not a good defender and you'll have constantly in foul trouble attempting to take up the slack

Fat Kat · Post #712 » by **Fat Kat** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:09 pm

Watch on YouTube

Post #713 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:11 pm

Defensive players:
Mitch
Morris
Frank
Taj

Offensive Players:
RJ
Randle
DSJ
Trier
Knox

Pick 2 or 3 defensive players and 2 or 3 offensive players at any time and that would be my rotation.

Then I would mix in Iggy or Dotson for the last spot because they have potential to help space the floor and be decent versatile defenders.

HEZI · Post #714 » by **HEZI** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:11 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HEZI wrote:Lets be real, Frank can't run a team for 30+ mins a game and sustain that level of defense for 82 games. Something has to give, offense would suck, he would probably be in foul trouble, we would still stink

We should play him a lot of minutes next to RJ, DSJ, even Payton and Trier so he wouldn't have to run the offense himself. Find good balance with the lineups....I mean we will still probably not be great no matter what, but balancing the lineups would probably give us our best results.

I think Frank would be key in that with his versatility, IF he can continue to play like FIBA Frank.

He's gotta show he can handle it. He was our starting wing last year and sucked. Theres more talent this year so he could fit better but still needs to show it

blueNorange · Post #715 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:13 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:

Read on Twitter

he's been wrong on everything yet he still claims he has sources.

just because you open up for bb king, who's too old to realize this bum opens for him, doesn't mean you're legit.

F N 11 · Post #716 » by **F N 11** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:15 pm

Fiz stealing plays from France is what I like to hear.

Post #717 » by **HerSports85** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:17 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

sounds like Fiz stole some sets from team France. Which is probably the best thing I've heard all offseason.

Watch on YouTube

Fiz really sounds like a coach.. none of that fluff stuff.

blueNorange · Post #718 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

but last year he got upset when the team questioned him being out of shape. :lol:

hopefully dsj doesn't find out about amy ruth's in harlem, because that is the best soul food in nyc imo.

Post #719 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:21 pm

HEZI wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
HEZI wrote:Lets be real, Frank can't run a team for 30+ mins a game and sustain that level of defense for 82 games. Something has to give, offense would suck, he would probably be in foul trouble, we would still stink

We should play him a lot of minutes next to RJ, DSJ, even Payton and Trier so he wouldn't have to run the offense himself. Find good balance with the lineups....I mean we will still probably not be great no matter what, but balancing the lineups would probably give us our best results.

I think Frank would be key in that with his versatility, IF he can continue to play like FIBA Frank.

He's gotta show he can handle it. He was our starting wing last year and sucked. Theres more talent this year so he could fit better but still needs to show it

True, he does need to play better and show he can handle it. He sucked at wing, but maybe thats not his best position? I would have him defend the other teams best G or PG since that is what he does best. And give him a role on offense where he gets a few touches and moves around....kinda like what France did.

F N 11 · Post #720 » by **F N 11** » Wed Oct 2, 2019 5:24 pm

FatboyRealPetty wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:

Read on Twitter

sounds like Fiz stole some sets from team France. Which is probably the best thing I've heard all offseason.

Watch on YouTube

Love that Fiz says a lot more off ball screens and motion in the offense now that we have more talent.

Says he sees how he can utilize Frank and Mitch because he hot some ideas from how France used Frank and Gobert.

Officially excited