The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love?

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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#161 » by RCM88x » Tue Oct 1, 2019 5:49 pm

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Gus McCrae wrote:Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.


I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.

Shut up about Laker fans. You don't know what you're talking about.


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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#162 » by Forte IV » Tue Oct 1, 2019 6:09 pm

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Gus McCrae wrote:Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.


I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.


It sounds lke you have issues from your childhood and the Clippers dysfunctionality was appealing to you. Maybe even you've convinced yourself all rich/spoiled people like the Lakers and the real LA representatives who watch games and keep it real are clipper fans. To quote my boy Slug, Clippers fans are all the same only seperate. Don't need the life story, it's a counter-culture thing. They were the worst franchise in sports, int he same city as the best franchise in sports, and you gravitated to the worst lol.



Ahh personal attacks. Love to see them. To answer you, no I did not have dysfunction in my childhood. I just didnt want to root for the Lakers. As a kid I honestly thought you were just supposed to randomly choose a team to root for, so for a few weeks I was a Timberwolves fan because my favorite animal was a wolf. I didnt choose the Lakers because all the kids I hated were Laker fans. I didn't even know about dysfunction of the Clippers until maybe (?) 2007 when I really started to use the internet more and find out about things. Do you honestly think a 7-8 year old kid in the early 2000s is going to know about dysfunction in a team? But if anyone is from LA would know, the Clippers used to be on KTLA. They'd play after Kids WB played cartoons on weekdays. So I'd come home, do my homework, turn on Kids WB for some cartoons and then watch the Clippers after.
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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#163 » by lonzo_pelota » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:46 pm

at which point did u feel your childhood was cursed if all u watched was clipper failures and late game collapes, elgin baylor was trash and so were the clippers teams from back then im talking terry dehere, eric piatkowski, michael olowkandi , pooh richardson Bill Fitch days
they used to always cover the losing spread, easy money if you betted on them to lose by lopsided numbers back then ahh good times
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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#164 » by NPZ » Tue Oct 1, 2019 9:53 pm

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Meh -- to be expected tbh. Although, I agree it in the grand scheme of things a Laker town, but if they win a championship or 2 in the next couple years, I could see LA fans getting behind them. Feel like that was the theme when they were good with Blake/CP3 albeit coming up short and the Lakers sucked at the time.
The "theme" when the Clippers were good was Blake Griffin and CP3 getting relentlessly booed every time they showed their face in public like at Dodger games.

And that was when the Lakers were the likes of Bob Sacre, Swaggy P, and Jordan Hill.

You're not from Los Angeles. You can wish and feel and hope it isn't like that here all you want, but it won't change anything.

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No wishing here bud, I really dgaf about what it’s like in LA. But it’s stupid to say that some Lakers fans wouldnt support the Clippers in the Finals if the Lakers were out early. The clippers never had any real success so it’s short sighted to completely dismiss it.


Kaboom, let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos...

Laker fans and Clipper fans are different entities. It doesn't matter than they both like basketball. You've got a dual team sport in Chicago, you know better than that. I doubt Cubs/White Sox fans interchange allegiance when one has a chance to win a title.
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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#165 » by MotownMadness » Tue Oct 1, 2019 10:26 pm

That would suck having to share arena with another team let alone a successful one like the Lakers.
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Re: The Los Angeles Clippers Kawhi Leonard cant get no hometown love? 

Post#166 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 4:47 pm

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TheRealKaboom wrote:The "theme" when the Clippers were good was Blake Griffin and CP3 getting relentlessly booed every time they showed their face in public like at Dodger games.

And that was when the Lakers were the likes of Bob Sacre, Swaggy P, and Jordan Hill.

You're not from Los Angeles. You can wish and feel and hope it isn't like that here all you want, but it won't change anything.

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No wishing here bud, I really dgaf about what it’s like in LA. But it’s stupid to say that some Lakers fans wouldnt support the Clippers in the Finals if the Lakers were out early. The clippers never had any real success so it’s short sighted to completely dismiss it.


Kaboom, let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos...

Laker fans and Clipper fans are different entities. It doesn't matter than they both like basketball. You've got a dual team sport in Chicago, you know better than that. I doubt Cubs/White Sox fans interchange allegiance when one has a chance to win a title.


Yeah - you're dead wrong about that. Maybe Sox fans werent wearing Cubs gear, but all were supportive and pulling for them and Vice versa in 05. Its still our city's team
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Post#167 » by lakerz12 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 6:05 pm

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Gus McCrae wrote:Clippers are a fad right now. Kind of like being a hipster. I don’t think they’ll ever fade back into the complete irrelevance they were before, but to overtake the Lakers in local and global fan numbers would take a good 30-40 years I would think. Lakers were horrific for about 6 years there and it barely put a dent in the fan base.

Actually some of my friends that were clipper fans started liking the lakers when the clippers became successful and the lakers became underdogs lol.


I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.


This terrible Laker fan you're describing probably only constitutes 10% of the fan base. Of course a large market and popular team will have some bandwagon type, fake fans.

But to say it is "most" fans is ridiculous. To say "most LA 'fans' aren't even fans of the team". SMH.

I know myself and all of the Laker fans I know would never think of being a GSW bandwagon fan, etc. Go to some Laker games and actually talk to Laker fans. They are true fans for the most part.

I've watched almost every Laker game on TV the past 10 years and beyond. All of this period where they sucked. I still enjoyed watching them. I'm not snobby and pretentious. And I think this is all true of MOST Laker fans.

You're really going way too far here. It's ironic that some Clipper fans on this board always try to play the victim card but your post is actually far worse than anything I ever see said about the Clippers.

I am critical of the Clipper roster, but I'd never go after their whole fanbase like that. Not a big deal, but pretty low IMO.
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Post#168 » by JellosJigglin » Wed Oct 2, 2019 6:20 pm

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I guess I've been a fan of a "Fad" for almost 20 years now. *pounds head twice and walks away into the sunset*

The Lakers are (mostly) nothing but a brand. Most LA "fans" aren't even fans of the team. They're a fan of the name because it makes them look cool and popular. ex: literally everyone in Los Angeles. The Lakers embody what's most prevalent about Los Angeles: rich, snobby entitlement. Most of the reason why I even became a Clippers fan was because my mom had me go to a rich kid elementary school because it had a better education system than the one next to my house. Every kid in that school was some spoiled brat who constantly talked about how they went to every Laker game etc. It was annoying, and it was indicative of what casual fans are today: Entitled and spoiled.

And you know what I'm saying is true. There's a reason why so many people called out "Laker" fans for jumping on the Warriors bandwagon. They may still be "Laker" fans at heart, but once they saw a fun team start winning championships, they jumped on the bandwagon and stopped watching Laker games. They'd still wear apparel, but they weren't watching the games, because the Lakers are a brand. If the Clippers win a title the same thing will happen. It's Los Angeles nature.


It sounds lke you have issues from your childhood and the Clippers dysfunctionality was appealing to you. Maybe even you've convinced yourself all rich/spoiled people like the Lakers and the real LA representatives who watch games and keep it real are clipper fans. To quote my boy Slug, Clippers fans are all the same only seperate. Don't need the life story, it's a counter-culture thing. They were the worst franchise in sports, int he same city as the best franchise in sports, and you gravitated to the worst lol.



Ahh personal attacks. Love to see them. To answer you, no I did not have dysfunction in my childhood. I just didnt want to root for the Lakers. As a kid I honestly thought you were just supposed to randomly choose a team to root for, so for a few weeks I was a Timberwolves fan because my favorite animal was a wolf. I didnt choose the Lakers because all the kids I hated were Laker fans. I didn't even know about dysfunction of the Clippers until maybe (?) 2007 when I really started to use the internet more and find out about things. Do you honestly think a 7-8 year old kid in the early 2000s is going to know about dysfunction in a team? But if anyone is from LA would know, the Clippers used to be on KTLA. They'd play after Kids WB played cartoons on weekdays. So I'd come home, do my homework, turn on Kids WB for some cartoons and then watch the Clippers after.


Really sounds like there's something deeper here. Sounds like you might've fit into the outcast category. You weren't a part of the collective and therefore couldn't identify yourself with anything they represented. Even by association.

I became a fan because of Magic Johnson. I went to public schools in the SF Valley and met people from all ethnicities and economic backgrounds. I found myself socializing with people about the Lakers who I never would've otherwise had anything in common with. For me the Lakers were the great equalizer that brought everyone together. I'll never forget my 9th bday party when I had a Laker theme and invited everyone I knew from my school who were Laker fans. There was one guy, Rafael, who I wasn't close friends with but I knew he was a big Laker fan so I invited him. I didn't know this at the time, but he lived FAR. I remember sometimes people would pick on him because he'd wear the same clothes a lot and sometimes smelled. He showed up wearing the fanciest clothes I'd ever seen him wear :lol:. I didn't say anything but thought it was hilarious. He had a suit on with one of those string ties that cowboys wear. All my friends were wearing Laker gear.

At the end of the party it was just me and my closest friends left, so I started opening presents. This dude Rafael left me an envelope, and when I shook it I could tell it was filled with change. When I opened it, it was literally just coins. I didn't really care for it at the time, but my family was so touched and compassionate about it. But 9 year old me didn't understand. So my older sister sat me down after I made an offhand remark about the coins and she said "that boy put on the fanciest clothes he had, had his mom drop him off from who-knows-where, scraped together whatever coins he could find lying around or had saved up because he didn't want to show up to your party empty handed. You should show some respect". I understood from her tone I should be more respectful, but it really didn't hit me until I got older. We never really became close friends, but to this day 30 years later, I remember his name and not the names of a lot of my closer friends at that time.

My life is filled with so many little anecdotes like that because of my love for the Lakers and the way it connected me with so many different people from around this city. This followed me through junior high, high school, college, etc. On the flip side, I've met a lot of Laker fans who I didn't like too. I never really let them affect my loyalty. The clipper fan base is tiny and I could see how that would seem less threatening to a young kid who has only had negative experiences with Laker fans. For me it had the opposite affect and brought me closer to people I had very little in common with. Back to work. Cheers. :beer:
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Post#169 » by Forte IV » Wed Oct 2, 2019 6:33 pm

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It sounds lke you have issues from your childhood and the Clippers dysfunctionality was appealing to you. Maybe even you've convinced yourself all rich/spoiled people like the Lakers and the real LA representatives who watch games and keep it real are clipper fans. To quote my boy Slug, Clippers fans are all the same only seperate. Don't need the life story, it's a counter-culture thing. They were the worst franchise in sports, int he same city as the best franchise in sports, and you gravitated to the worst lol.



Ahh personal attacks. Love to see them. To answer you, no I did not have dysfunction in my childhood. I just didnt want to root for the Lakers. As a kid I honestly thought you were just supposed to randomly choose a team to root for, so for a few weeks I was a Timberwolves fan because my favorite animal was a wolf. I didnt choose the Lakers because all the kids I hated were Laker fans. I didn't even know about dysfunction of the Clippers until maybe (?) 2007 when I really started to use the internet more and find out about things. Do you honestly think a 7-8 year old kid in the early 2000s is going to know about dysfunction in a team? But if anyone is from LA would know, the Clippers used to be on KTLA. They'd play after Kids WB played cartoons on weekdays. So I'd come home, do my homework, turn on Kids WB for some cartoons and then watch the Clippers after.


Really sounds like there's something deeper here. Sounds like you might've fit into the outcast category. You weren't a part of the collective and therefore couldn't identify yourself with anything they represented. Even by association.

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I became a fan because of Magic Johnson. I went to public schools in the SF Valley and met people from all ethnicities and economic backgrounds. I found myself socializing with people about the Lakers who I never would've otherwise had anything in common with. For me the Lakers were the great equalizer that brought everyone together. I'll never forget my 9th bday party when I had a Laker theme and invited everyone I knew from my school who were Laker fans. There was one guy, Rafael, who I wasn't close friends with but I knew he was a big Laker fan so I invited him. I didn't know this at the time, but he lived FAR. I remember sometimes people would pick on him because he'd wear the same clothes a lot and sometimes smelled. He showed up wearing the fanciest clothes I'd ever seen him wear :lol:. I didn't say anything but thought it was hilarious. He had a suit on with one of those string ties that cowboys wear. All my friends were wearing Laker gear.

At the end of the party it was just me and my closest friends left, so I started opening presents. This dude Rafael left me an envelope, and when I shook it I could tell it was filled with change. When I opened it, it was literally just coins. I didn't really care for it at the time, but my family was so touched and compassionate about it. But 9 year old me didn't understand. So my older sister sat me down after I made an offhand remark about the coins and she said "that boy put on the fanciest clothes he had, had his mom drop him off from who-knows-where, scraped together whatever coins he could find lying around or had saved up because he didn't want to show up to your party empty handed. You should show some respect". I understood from her tone I should be more respectful, but it really didn't hit me until I got older. We never really became close friends, but to this day 30 years later, I remember his name and not the names of a lot of my closer friends at that time.

My life is filled with so many little anecdotes like that because of my love for the Lakers and the way it connected me with so many different people from around this city. This followed me through junior high, high school, college, etc. On the flip side, I've met a lot of Laker fans who I didn't like too. I never really let them affect my loyalty. The clipper fan base is tiny and I could see how that would seem less threatening to a young kid who has only had negative experiences with Laker fans. For me it had the opposite affect and brought me closer to people I had very little in common with. Back to work. Cheers. :beer:


Nah bro I just liked the Clippers. It's literally as simple as that. I don't hate the Lakers. I just don't root for them. A lot of it has to do with a lot of their fans feeling privileged and whiny, sure, but I just never found a connection to the team. I liked watching Quentin Richardson and Darius Miles. I liked watching Corey Maggette and EB. My favorite colors were red and blue. I'm not a Clippers fan to be "anti Laker". Like I said, I don't hate the Lakers at all. I've watched hundreds of Laker games when they were on KCAL9 just to watch the game of basketball. I've literally said hundreds of time since 2006 (several times on this forum) that I wanted both LA teams to be good at the same time so there can be a legitimate Los Angeles rivalry. I don't want the Lakers to suffer. I'm simply just not a fan of the team.

I was still friends with a lot of people who were Lakers fans. It's impossible to live in LA and especially the valley (where im from) to not have friends that are Laker fans. My best friend is a die hard Laker fan. My brother in law is a died hard Laker fan. Maybe at the end of the day I just hate privileged people who whine and complain and think everything has to go their way. Maybe if my first encounter with Laker fans hadn't been with all the privileged kids at my elementary school things would have been different. Who knows.

I was just stating what made me first not want to root for the team and you started assuming things. Well you know the phrase. You're questioning me like I never had friends when that's far from the truth lol. Love a good condensing tone throughout your entire post. Get out of here. I've just always rooted for the Clippers, at the end of the day it's as simple as that.
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Post#170 » by NPZ » Wed Oct 2, 2019 9:21 pm

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No wishing here bud, I really dgaf about what it’s like in LA. But it’s stupid to say that some Lakers fans wouldnt support the Clippers in the Finals if the Lakers were out early. The clippers never had any real success so it’s short sighted to completely dismiss it.


Kaboom, let's leave Chicago to the Eskimos...

Laker fans and Clipper fans are different entities. It doesn't matter than they both like basketball. You've got a dual team sport in Chicago, you know better than that. I doubt Cubs/White Sox fans interchange allegiance when one has a chance to win a title.


Yeah - you're dead wrong about that. Maybe Sox fans werent wearing Cubs gear, but all were supportive and pulling for them and Vice versa in 05. Its still our city's team


OK, fine, if true. But you're similarly wrong to conflate that w/ the situation between Lakers and Clippers. Same dynamic ain't at work. It's plainly visible when you as an outsider look at the way we snark at each other most of the time. None of us cloak the hate all that much. I'll give the Clipps fans that much, they give as good as they get, which makes for a fun enemy.
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Post#171 » by NPZ » Wed Oct 2, 2019 9:26 pm

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I became a fan because of Magic Johnson


I started playing hoops and began watching basketball for the first time when I was so young that I don't think I even knew the Clippers existed and I've never been anything but a Lakers fan (no other sports lest you count 80s WWF, no nothin). I was around in the few seasons where they missed the playoffs before the last 6 years at least, Sedale Threatt is still one of my faves. Frankly, I remember not even knowing that anything but the Lakers and Celtics (and just as names, not anything in detail) existed. Hard to conjure up memories from that long ago, but one thing I recall at the very beginning is that I thought PHX's home arena was the Lakers' because their floor was purple and I was trying to figure out as a confused kid why they were cheering for the Suns. Good thing about Magic and then Chick Hearn and the fact that they were on about 35x a year on KCAL 9 (road games, at least). Yikes. I could've just as easily turned on a Clippers game for the first time. I don't even count those earliest of years in my fandom, btw. I start at the point where I was actually cognizant of at least the NBA's teams/players, etc. I sneer at those "fan since birth" peeps because if you were young enough, you didn't know sht all about hoops enough to legitimately qualify as a fan.
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Post#172 » by TheNewEra » Wed Oct 2, 2019 9:32 pm

Also seeing there are some very old people here. Interesting enough there will be a generation coming up that only knows the Lakers for one title or two and missing the playoffs.

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