Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

Post #1661 » by **Parliament10** » Thu Oct 3, 2019 11:47 pm

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1662 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 1:34 am

Here's another bullsh*t trade idea:

Gordon Hayward to MIA
Justise Winslow and Bradley Beal to BOS
Mahinmi, Meyers Leonard, Troy Brown to OKC
Jaylen Brown, Steven Adams, Dion Waiters to WAS

MagicBagley18 · Post #1663 » by **MagicBagley18** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 2:37 am

People still trying to get us Justise Winslow.......10/23 hurry and up get here. Sigh.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1664 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 3:16 am

People is just me, I think

Triple7 · Post #1665 » by **Triple7** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 4:08 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:People is just me, I think

Yup!

Big Joke Line · Post #1666 » by **Big Joke Line** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 4:12 am

smith2373 wrote:Thing is, Kyrie wasn't the only person on the team with personal trauma. For example, Marcus Smart's mom died like two weeks before training camp started. Everybody has a personal life outside of basketball. And I completely understand that everybody deals with grief differently, but I can't get down with using that as an excuse to justify being a bad teammate.

Now I don't hate Kyrie at all. If I was in the arena for his return game I personally wouldn't boo him. He fulfilled his contractual obligations to this team and had every right to move on. But let's call a spade a spade.

Quitting on your team’s last game two years in a row is not fulfilling your contract it’s the opposite of that.

Triple7 · Post #1667 » by **Triple7** » Fri Oct 4, 2019 4:57 am

Big Joke Line wrote:
smith2373 wrote:Thing is, Kyrie wasn't the only person on the team with personal trauma. For example, Marcus Smart's mom died like two weeks before training camp started. Everybody has a personal life outside of basketball. And I completely understand that everybody deals with grief differently, but I can't get down with using that as an excuse to justify being a bad teammate.

Now I don't hate Kyrie at all. If I was in the arena for his return game I personally wouldn't boo him. He fulfilled his contractual obligations to this team and had every right to move on. But let's call a spade a spade.

Quitting on your team’s last game two years in a row is not fulfilling your contract it’s the opposite of that.

He better NOT get cheers for his return game, or else i’ll be disappointed with the fans watching live. The players and the fans better not get SOFT on us and play buddy buddy with Kyrie.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1668 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sun Oct 6, 2019 7:31 pm

We got to protect our boy Kanter. Wtf is going on?

Theocy · Post #1669 » by **Theocy** » Mon Oct 7, 2019 9:51 am

Carsen is built like a **** tank

Dude seems so strong wouldn't want to pick a fight with him ever lol.

Can someone tell me if he is actually taller than isiah Thomas? Please use centimeters rathen than breaths per surface area you inconsistent crazy Americans :lol:

Post #1670 » by **Parliament10** » Mon Oct 7, 2019 8:59 pm

Theocy wrote:Carsen is built like a **** tank

Dude seems so strong wouldn't want to pick a fight with him ever lol.

Can someone tell me if he is actually taller than isiah Thomas? Please use centimeters rathen than breaths per surface area you inconsistent crazy Americans

185 cm. 6'1".

reload141 · Post #1671 » by **reload141** » Mon Oct 7, 2019 9:11 pm

I know a lot of people will disagree and I can’t really bring myself to agree to this trade either but trying to figure out a way to balance this roster better.... it just depends which way ownership will really go and how Hayward comes back.

Hayward, Theis, RWIII and BOS 1st to OKC

Adams and Gallinari to BOS

OKC will most likely trade Paul and look at rebuilding... they can let Hayward play the rest of the year and boost his numbers and most likely trade him in the offseason for value and get a nice prospect in RWIII

We upgrade at the PF and C starting positions and we are missing a New Zealander on this roster so bad.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Gallinari
Adams

StojkoVrankovic · RIP texas celtic, 12/10/14 - 12/10/14

Adams isn’t an elite defender, certainly better than what we have right now, but he clearly isn’t good enough to trade half the team.

reload141 · Post #1673 » by **reload141** » Mon Oct 7, 2019 11:11 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:Adams isn’t an elite defender, certainly better than what we have right now, but he clearly isn’t good enough to trade half the team.

While he's not Elite he'd instantly be the best big man and can set screens much better than anyone else to free Kemba up.

I think VP & Kanter can hold down the 2nd unit big man rotation and we could spread the floor just as much now with the opening unit with Gallinari's shot making.

Like I said it's not the "best" trade you could probably make but a feasible one as I think one of him or Brown would be the oddman out come end of the season.

Especially if Brown & Tatum trend upwards and Hayward makes a minimal improvement on last year...

Post #1674 » by **Parliament10** » Mon Oct 7, 2019 11:29 pm

reload141 wrote:I know a lot of people will disagree and I can’t really bring myself to agree to this trade either but trying to figure out a way to balance this roster better.... it just depends which way ownership will really go and how Hayward comes back.

Hayward, Theis, RWIII and BOS 1st to OKC

Adams and Gallinari to BOS

OKC will most likely trade Paul and look at rebuilding... they can let Hayward play the rest of the year and boost his numbers and most likely trade him in the offseason for value and get a nice prospect in RWIII

We upgrade at the PF and C starting positions and we are missing a New Zealander on this roster so bad.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Gallinari
Adams

Trade looks OK. But I would put in Poirier long before I'd think about trading R. Williams
That Kid has too much upside.

reload141 wrote:
StojkoVrankovic wrote:Adams isn’t an elite defender, certainly better than what we have right now, but he clearly isn’t good enough to trade half the team.

While he's not Elite he'd instantly be the best big man and can set screens much better than anyone else to free Kemba up.

I think VP & Kanter can hold down the 2nd unit big man rotation and we could spread the floor just as much now with the opening unit with Gallinari's shot making.

Like I said it's not the "best" trade you could probably make but a feasible one as I think one of him or Brown would be the oddman out come end of the season.

Especially if Brown & Tatum trend upwards and Hayward makes a minimal improvement on last year...

Also, Gallanari is getting up there (31 yrs). He hasn't impressed me for a little while now.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1675 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:31 am

reload141 wrote:I know a lot of people will disagree and I can’t really bring myself to agree to this trade either but trying to figure out a way to balance this roster better.... it just depends which way ownership will really go and how Hayward comes back.

Hayward, Theis, RWIII and BOS 1st to OKC

Adams and Gallinari to BOS

OKC will most likely trade Paul and look at rebuilding... they can let Hayward play the rest of the year and boost his numbers and most likely trade him in the offseason for value and get a nice prospect in RWIII

We upgrade at the PF and C starting positions and we are missing a New Zealander on this roster so bad.

Kemba
Brown
Tatum
Gallinari
Adams

Take Williams out of it and I'm listening.. take the 1st out, too. Give them Ojeleye, maybe.

Adams isn't "elite" defensively but he's just a notch or two below. He's also strong, physical, a great screener, an underrated rebounder.. he'd lock down our front court on defense, much better than Baynes. Only one year left on his deal after this season, so it's not a long-term commitment immediately. Helps define our identity. Gallo is an expiring we can use to take back salary in trades, which OKC can't.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1676 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:35 am

Anyway the big question with Hayward, his value to us and in trades, is whether he's 80 percent back or all the way back. His motor and confidence are there, all his IQ skills, his shot looks like it'll be pretty good. The only thing still missing is his vertical explosion, and either that's mental, and he'll get it back when he's able to face his fear of re-injury, or it's physical, and it's gone for good.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1677 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:42 am

I'm down on the roster tonight, reacting to seeing Orlando and New Orleans. We just don't have any blue-chippers - maybe Tatum- but all our rebuilding has brought in some very nice players, value for their draft spots - Smart, Edwards, Brown, Langford, Rob, Grant... We don't have anyone who jumps off the screen or oozes potential like Zion, Ben Simmons, Isaac, Bamba, Doncic..

LuckyLeprechaun · Post #1678 » by **LuckyLeprechaun** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:42 am

I'm convinced that we're aren't making any significant trades until December at the earliest. For one, because the market is terrible right now. The fact that guys like Adams are major names on the trade market is proof of that. For two, because Danny doesn't sell low and most trades we could make right now are selling low.

The only type of trade I see us making is Wanamaker+Semi for some deep bench vet that doesn't need to play regularly and frees up a roster spot so we can keep both Green and Tacko without having to cut anyone.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1679 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 6:58 am

Also, the only way we're getting Aaron Gordon is if Hayward makes it 110 percent of the way back in the next two weeks.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1680 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 7:33 am

reload141 wrote:they can let Hayward play the rest of the year and boost his numbers and most likely trade him in the offseason for value

That part makes no sense to me. If Hayward's option year is a good deal for the club, why would he opt in? If it's a bad deal, why could he be traded for value?