2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[bwoolf2]

Lol TJ with 30 in his first preseason game with Indiana.

If TJ is their leading scorer this year they are in trouble, I like TJ but he should have always been a 6th man, problem is he doesnt want to be a 6th man, he is great at what he does, score, but he is one a trick pony, he doesnt do anything else well, those guys are great off the bench but not 30 minute a night guys on winning teams. Never have been.

Dipo will likely be their leading scorer.

Even if TJ was, the fact that Sabonis and Brogdon are so efficient, along with Turner at C, and the defense of Turner, Dipo and Brogdon and Lamb also there, I think they have the great defensive pieces around him and good passers in Oladipo, Brogdon and even Lamb and Sabonis are pretty good passers.

I like TJ but im not sad he is gone, not a knuckle head like Chriss, Jackson, or the vast majority of MCds picks but he is still a low IQ player, great scorer dont get me wrong but rarely makes the right play, the right pass, is in the right position, just my opinion but I watched enough to know. Will always be a vinny the microwave Johnson type of guy... flame thrower off the bench but you start him he is going to hurt your win %... but again lets see how this year plays out...

[Frank Lee]

The loss of TBuckets will be constantly brought up. Normal. But it should be noted that we opted to give his minutes to Bridges and Oubre, Saric.....and to sign Rubio. These changes are not mutually exclusive as the first domino was finding a suitable home for Warren. He'll likely excell there, but hopefully the production/growth of Mikal will offset TJs stat stuffing ability.

If anything, as fans, its best to draw the line now and realize the changes made were changes needed. Get on board with the all around play of Bridges, for he is, IMO, the main reason why TJ became expendable. Frankly, I'd rather have Mikal getting 30+ mins than Warren. Scoring is not going to be our downfall.

[Jdiddy701]

Damn 3J killing it.... I see him taking a run at an eastern all star spot.

Been saying this for so long. Happy for TJ Warren. He was a joy to watch here in Phoenix. He’s going to kill the East.


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[sunsbg]

Damn 3J killing it.... I see him taking a run at an eastern all star spot.

Been saying this for so long. Happy for TJ Warren. He was a joy to watch here in Phoenix. He’s going to kill the East.


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They play defense in the East in meaningful games. We'll see.

[Saberestar]

The loss of TBuckets will be constantly brought up. Normal. But it should be noted that we opted to give his minutes to Bridges and Oubre, Saric.....and to sign Rubio. These changes are not mutually exclusive as the first domino was finding a suitable home for Warren. He'll likely excell there, but hopefully the production/growth of Mikal will offset TJs stat stuffing ability.

If anything, as fans, its best to draw the line now and realize the changes made were changes needed. Get on board with the all around play of Bridges, for he is, IMO, the main reason why TJ became expendable. Frankly, I'd rather have Mikal getting 30+ mins than Warren. Scoring is not going to be our downfall.

In my opinion we are gonna regret it.

Warren deserved better on the Suns, I prefer him over Oubre. That is it. It was one or the other for our franchise, and we decided to sign Oubre.

Hopefully Oubre plays great, but I think Warren is the better player and his contract is cheaper. We will see.

[bwgood77]

If TJ is their leading scorer this year they are in trouble, I like TJ but he should have always been a 6th man, problem is he doesnt want to be a 6th man, he is great at what he does, score, but he is one a trick pony, he doesnt do anything else well, those guys are great off the bench but not 30 minute a night guys on winning teams. Never have been.

Dipo will likely be their leading scorer.

Even if TJ was, the fact that Sabonis and Brogdon are so efficient, along with Turner at C, and the defense of Turner, Dipo and Brogdon and Lamb also there, I think they have the great defensive pieces around him and good passers in Oladipo, Brogdon and even Lamb and Sabonis are pretty good passers.

I like TJ but im not sad he is gone, not a knuckle head like Chriss, Jackson, or the vast majority of MCds picks but he is still a low IQ player, great scorer dont get me wrong but rarely makes the right play, the right pass, is in the right position, just my opinion but I watched enough to know. Will always be a vinny the microwave Johnson type of guy... flame thrower off the bench but you start him he is going to hurt your win %... but again lets see how this year plays out...

He's not low iq...not like a Jackson, Chriss or Oubre. He's just a natural go to scorer and that was and is usually his role.

[Qwigglez]

Nothing against Warren. I always viewed him as our best trade chip the last couple of years and upset we didn’t get much value out of the trade. Warren though, was hardly ever a difference in games. He scored points but it didn’t mean much when we still had other voids to fill. He was expendable with Bridges and Oubre. And I would take Bridges/Oubre over him any day.

Can’t wait though to hear more from the media on how the Suns botched yet another trade/pick/signing, etc.

[King4Day]

I'm ok with dealing TJ but what I'll have a hard time accepting is if he becomes an all-star and knowing we had to pay to get rid of him. That's the cost of being a really bad team.

[sunsbg]

Dipo will likely be their leading scorer.

Even if TJ was, the fact that Sabonis and Brogdon are so efficient, along with Turner at C, and the defense of Turner, Dipo and Brogdon and Lamb also there, I think they have the great defensive pieces around him and good passers in Oladipo, Brogdon and even Lamb and Sabonis are pretty good passers.

I like TJ but im not sad he is gone, not a knuckle head like Chriss, Jackson, or the vast majority of MCds picks but he is still a low IQ player, great scorer dont get me wrong but rarely makes the right play, the right pass, is in the right position, just my opinion but I watched enough to know. Will always be a vinny the microwave Johnson type of guy... flame thrower off the bench but you start him he is going to hurt your win %... but again lets see how this year plays out...

He's not low iq...not like an Jackson, Chriss or Oubre. He's just a natural go to scorer and that was and is usually his role.

Always looked like an opportunistic scorer to me rather than a go to guy. A go to player is usually the first option on a team, which Warren is not. Or at least he was not most of the time with the Suns before started hitting 3s.

After having a look at the highlights and box score I would still take Bogdanovic's 14/7 over Warren's 30. I have a bias for Bogdan though, simply like versatile players more I guess.

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[bwgood77]

The loss of TBuckets will be constantly brought up. Normal. But it should be noted that we opted to give his minutes to Bridges and Oubre, Saric.....and to sign Rubio. These changes are not mutually exclusive as the first domino was finding a suitable home for Warren. He'll likely excell there, but hopefully the production/growth of Mikal will offset TJs stat stuffing ability.

If anything, as fans, its best to draw the line now and realize the changes made were changes needed. Get on board with the all around play of Bridges, for he is, IMO, the main reason why TJ became expendable. Frankly, I'd rather have Mikal getting 30+ mins than Warren. Scoring is not going to be our downfall.

I agree that I'd rather have Bridges due to our need for defense.

[bwoolf2]

Dipo will likely be their leading scorer.

Even if TJ was, the fact that Sabonis and Brogdon are so efficient, along with Turner at C, and the defense of Turner, Dipo and Brogdon and Lamb also there, I think they have the great defensive pieces around him and good passers in Oladipo, Brogdon and even Lamb and Sabonis are pretty good passers.

I like TJ but im not sad he is gone, not a knuckle head like Chriss, Jackson, or the vast majority of MCds picks but he is still a low IQ player, great scorer dont get me wrong but rarely makes the right play, the right pass, is in the right position, just my opinion but I watched enough to know. Will always be a vinny the microwave Johnson type of guy... flame thrower off the bench but you start him he is going to hurt your win %... but again lets see how this year plays out...

He's not low iq...not like a Jackson, Chriss or Oubre. He's just a natural go to scorer and that was and is usually his role.

like in almost all cases we will agree to dis agree on his basketball IQ

[Young gun 6]

Nothing against Warren. I always viewed him as our best trade chip the last couple of years and upset we didn’t get much value out of the trade. Warren though, was hardly ever a difference in games. He scored points but it didn’t mean much when we still had other voids to fill. He was expendable with Bridges and Oubre. And I would take Bridges/Oubre over him any day.

Can’t wait though to hear more from the media on how the Suns botched yet another trade/pick/signing, etc.

We didn’t get not much value we actually got negative value having to attach a pick to get rid of him.

He did seem to be a difference at times though to wins, we were 10-4 when he scored 25 points in 2018 and 11-57 when he didn’t.

[TheLogician]

That was such a stupid trade. Gonna have a bum Oubre shooting 30% from 3 this year. Bridges has a long way to go himself.

[grumpysaddle]

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The Suns need to just Clockwork Orange this into Ayton's head. He could be this dominant whenever he chooses to be. He just has a tendency to be too passive most nights. This quarter was one of the most fun quarters I've watched, especially in such an abysmal season.

[sunskerr]

The problem isn’t necessarily that we traded Warren- it’s that we gave him up along with a 2nd round pick and didn’t get **** (like a pick) in return.

It was obvious from the minute that trade was made that we’d regret it

[sunsbum]

Call me when Warren plays a full season. Also, if I wanted an oft injured player that can score I'd go out and trade for a guy like Devin Booker who's 3x the player TJ is....waitaminute.

[bhawk]

The problem isn’t necessarily that we traded Warren- it’s that we gave him up along with a 2nd round pick and didn’t get **** (like a pick) in return.

It was obvious from the minute that trade was made that we’d regret it

If we could have gotten more we would have. The market dictated Warrens value and a crappy return. It is not like we were trading Paul George or Kawahi.

Let’s please move on and cheer for the improved team that we now have. Addition by subtraction.

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[sunskerr]

The problem isn’t necessarily that we traded Warren- it’s that we gave him up along with a 2nd round pick and didn’t get **** (like a pick) in return.

It was obvious from the minute that trade was made that we’d regret it

If we could have gotten more we would have. The market dictated Warrens value and a crappy return. It is not like we were trading Paul George or Kawahi.

Let’s please move on and cheer for the improved team that we now have. Addition by subtraction.

No. According to Indiana we just called up and did 0 negotiating. They were ecstatic they got Warren for free.

[SuperSunsFan]

TJ's uncanny ability to find empty spaces to get himself into a perfect position to receive the ball for an easy basketball will be sorely missed. He could easily be scoring 30 per game just by running without the ball the whole game without a single play drawn for him playing with an excellent passing point like Rubio. We used to have great receivers (Holmes, Warren) but no quarter back, now when we finally get a good quarterback but the receivers were mostly traded.

people liked Oubre more because of his swagger and supposedly higher ceiling due to his better athleticism, but Warren is a sure thing with a much higher floor.