Markelle Fultz Updates Thread

[tiderulz]

Hoooooo boy! I am so excited for what Fultz can bring this team, even if it's only what he was bringing to Philly the last couple of seasons (minus the injuries). I can't wait to see him get in the paint and start disrupting defenses.

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

He played like a watered down smaller version of Simmons, he could still get into the lane. It's not like he was trash, he got a triple double in limited minutes. Per 36 his rookie year he was 14, 7.5, 6. Second year 13, 6, 5. I'm not arguing he was good by any means but it's not like he stood in the corner and just provided nothing like Tony Snell.

ill hope for the best.

but he was force fed that triple double in a 35 point blowout win

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[j-ragg]

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

He played like a watered down smaller version of Simmons, he could still get into the lane. It's not like he was trash, he got a triple double in limited minutes. Per 36 his rookie year he was 14, 7.5, 6. Second year 13, 6, 5. I'm not arguing he was good by any means but it's not like he stood in the corner and just provided nothing like Tony Snell.

ill hope for the best.

but he was force fed that triple double in a 35 point blowout win

I disagree about force fed because he seems to be the type of player who won't score a ton but collect a lot of rebounds/assists when he's playing. But yeah it's not like that is even going to be the same player we have here in Orlando, so who knows.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Its his first nba game in a while even though it is preseason so I'm not going to overreact either way. He's going to play, could be 20 mins could be 10 but at least he's playing. The important thing is that he's getting some reps in.

[NotACat]

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The praise Clifford is giving Fultz is amazing, can't wait to see Fultz play.

[basketballRob]

I'm not sure if it's genius or just luck that Fultz's first game is a non-televised preseason game. I'm not sure there's much less pressure outside of Summer League than here. So let's see what the kid has. I think trading Simmons and what'll end up being 3 2nds belonging to other teams is worth it even if he doesn't pan out...if only for the excitement of now.

I think he'll be a scorer for this team. Cliff will give him the green light to create everytime he has the ball. I wouldn't be surprised to see him have some 30 and 40 point games this year.

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not so sure about that. the only green lights are to players he trusts. He doesnt know Fultz enough yet

It's about who can score. This team has had a problem scoring and I think Cliff will have him take the first open opportunity.

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[basketballRob]

Hoooooo boy! I am so excited for what Fultz can bring this team, even if it's only what he was bringing to Philly the last couple of seasons (minus the injuries). I can't wait to see him get in the paint and start disrupting defenses.

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

He played like a watered down smaller version of Simmons, he could still get into the lane. It's not like he was trash, he got a triple double in limited minutes. Per 36 his rookie year he was 14, 7.5, 6. Second year 13, 6, 5. I'm not arguing he was good by any means but it's not like he stood in the corner and just provided nothing like Tony Snell.

It's a whole different situation here. There he was the fifth option when he was on the floor, here he'll be leaned on to score, which might better suit his game.

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[neuraldarwinism]

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inject this straight into my veins

[Bensational]

Hoooooo boy! I am so excited for what Fultz can bring this team, even if it's only what he was bringing to Philly the last couple of seasons (minus the injuries). I can't wait to see him get in the paint and start disrupting defenses.

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

[thelead]

No video from a weeks worth of training camp practices???

[tiderulz]

Hoooooo boy! I am so excited for what Fultz can bring this team, even if it's only what he was bringing to Philly the last couple of seasons (minus the injuries). I can't wait to see him get in the paint and start disrupting defenses.

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

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inject this straight into my veins

Back of the line bro!

[MagicFan101]

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

[basketballRob]

not sure i understand this. He didnt bring anything really to Philly. he couldnt shoot 3's, wasnt drawing fouls, obviously his shot in general was an issue. what do you think he brought to PHilly his 2 seasons (33 games) there?

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

Off the top of my head I think he averaged 1.6 steals and 1.2 blocks in raw stats. I'm sure Cliff can work with that ability.

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[PrimeThyme]

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

There is no doubt in my mind that Fultz has all the tools to be an elite defender in this league. He even flashed elite shotblocking capabilities for a guard at Washington (averaged 1.2 bpg) and flashed some of that ability in Philly. Which is just so exciting when you consider the kind of rim protection a lineup of Fultz/Isaac/Bamba could have.

It is true that he wasn't a great defender at Washington. He wasn't good defensively during his short time in Philly either. He died on screens, struggled with rotations, and lacked effort on that end at times as well. It's easier to excuse a lack of effort when he's having to be a team's entire offense like he was in Washington then it was once he got to the NBA though. I do feel that a lot of his defensive struggles since he's been in the NBA just has to do with a lack of experience and are things the majority of young guards struggle with early on.

This is where I trust Clifford though and is part of the reason why I believe he is the perfect coach for Fultz. Cliff won't stand for a lack of effort on the defensive end. I think he will be able to get the most out of him on that end, && that Fultz will be motivated early on to give full effort and secure a place in the rotation.

[Bensational]

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

There is no doubt in my mind that Fultz has all the tools to be an elite defender in this league. He even flashed elite shotblocking capabilities for a guard at Washington (averaged 1.2 bpg) and flashed some of that ability in Philly. Which is just so exciting when you consider the kind of rim protection a lineup of Fultz/Isaac/Bamba could have.

It is true that he wasn't a great defender at Washington. He wasn't good defensively during his short time in Philly either. He died on screens, struggled with rotations, and lacked effort on that end at times as well. It's easier to excuse a lack of effort when he's having to be a team's entire offense like he was in Washington then it was once he got to the NBA though. I do feel that a lot of his defensive struggles since he's been in the NBA just has to do with a lack of experience and are things the majority of young guards struggle with early on.

This is where I trust Clifford though and is part of the reason why I believe he is the perfect coach for Fultz. Cliff won't stand for a lack of effort on the defensive end. I think he will be able to get the most out of him on that end, && that Fultz will be motivated early on to give full effort and secure a place in the rotation.

The other thing is, Fultz has such a chip on his shoulder to prove himself, I can't imagine him giving less than 100% on that end, especially with Cliff at the helm. I except a very team first version of Fultz early on.

[yoyojw17]

That's the thing, despite his shooting concerns, he was still able to do everything else, in particular getting into the lane at will, and either finding himself a shot or finding an open man. We haven't had that since Payton, and that's lead to a lot of missed opportunities for guys like AG, Isaac and Iwundu who make cuts.

It should also help to open up space for Vuc inside, and Fournier/Ross outside depending on how Fultz can work the defense.

Bonus, he won't be the sieve that DJ has been defensively. It will be an entirely new dynamic for the offense.

Sure it will likely have some warts as he works to get his shot going, but when games get tight late in the game, Fultz will be a game changer as someone who can attack and make things happen. I don't expect him to be a superstar this year, but I do expect us to get a taste and glimpse of his potential in these areas.

i could be wrong, but pretty sure i remember him being rated one of the worst defensive PG's in metrics his year at Washington

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

...usually it's just the ladies....

[yoyojw17]

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

There is no doubt in my mind that Fultz has all the tools to be an elite defender in this league. He even flashed elite shotblocking capabilities for a guard at Washington (averaged 1.2 bpg) and flashed some of that ability in Philly. Which is just so exciting when you consider the kind of rim protection a lineup of Fultz/Isaac/Bamba could have.

It is true that he wasn't a great defender at Washington. He wasn't good defensively during his short time in Philly either. He died on screens, struggled with rotations, and lacked effort on that end at times as well. It's easier to excuse a lack of effort when he's having to be a team's entire offense like he was in Washington then it was once he got to the NBA though. I do feel that a lot of his defensive struggles since he's been in the NBA just has to do with a lack of experience and are things the majority of young guards struggle with early on.

This is where I trust Clifford though and is part of the reason why I believe he is the perfect coach for Fultz. Cliff won't stand for a lack of effort on the defensive end. I think he will be able to get the most out of him on that end, && that Fultz will be motivated early on to give full effort and secure a place in the rotation.

The other thing is, Fultz has such a chip on his shoulder to prove himself, I can't imagine him giving less than 100% on that end, especially with Cliff at the helm. I except a very team first version of Fultz early on.

he seems like a down to earth guy... and rather level headed. He's probably been even more humbled by everything that has happened coming into the league. He will most likely be clawing his way to prove he's got everything together and won't deviate from the plan. loving the his interviews!

[NavalAviator94]

You definitely not wrong at all.

However, if you go back to the tape or review scouting reports (like the one below) you will see that much of it is blamed on effort on that end of the floor. Few questioned his defensive potential given the physical gifts. You definitely don’t like to see that but considering how pivotal he was on offense and how bad that team was I can look past a young player slacking on D. Cliff is a coach who gets D out of his guys.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/markelle-fultz-nba-draft-2017-scouting-report-analysis

There is no doubt in my mind that Fultz has all the tools to be an elite defender in this league. He even flashed elite shotblocking capabilities for a guard at Washington (averaged 1.2 bpg) and flashed some of that ability in Philly. Which is just so exciting when you consider the kind of rim protection a lineup of Fultz/Isaac/Bamba could have.

It is true that he wasn't a great defender at Washington. He wasn't good defensively during his short time in Philly either. He died on screens, struggled with rotations, and lacked effort on that end at times as well. It's easier to excuse a lack of effort when he's having to be a team's entire offense like he was in Washington then it was once he got to the NBA though. I do feel that a lot of his defensive struggles since he's been in the NBA just has to do with a lack of experience and are things the majority of young guards struggle with early on.

This is where I trust Clifford though and is part of the reason why I believe he is the perfect coach for Fultz. Cliff won't stand for a lack of effort on the defensive end. I think he will be able to get the most out of him on that end, && that Fultz will be motivated early on to give full effort and secure a place in the rotation.

The other thing is, Fultz has such a chip on his shoulder to prove himself, I can't imagine him giving less than 100% on that end, especially with Cliff at the helm. I except a very team first version of Fultz early on.

It’s this right here that gets me excited. If he’s feeling good he is going to work to prove everybody wrong. Who wouldn’t?

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