The owner is clearly only concerned with one thing. I am so fortunate that we have Ballmer after so many years of our own **** owner. Ballmer is the biggest philanthropist in the NBA, extremely progressive and actually doesn't seem to give one **** about moneyGeorgeMarcus wrote:MemphisX wrote:GeorgeMarcus wrote:I agree with his stance but it's not worth it for the NBA to get involved in Chinese politics
This is how atrocities happen.
We're talking about the NBA, not the US military. If they to do something they can kill this whole preseason arrangement with China out of protest, but outside of that...
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paulbball wrote:thelead wrote:paulbball wrote:Morey just got himself in titanic troubles. There will be pressure to axe Morey. Rockets is the most Chinese oriented team in the league with close ties to Chinese basketball. Fetitta is retail billionaire and fully understands that it's not wise to take any stance on politics.
Morey is going to 99% come out with a forced apology. Or else he is going to get fired. There is no other way to resolve this issue.
And why do Americans feel the need to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries?
How will you feel if China started funding Black Lives Matter? The Klan? Southern Separatist/Nationalist movements?
Morey isn't funding anything. He gave his opinion. Which affects NOTHING in reality... other than the pockets of those that already have billions.
You are missing the point. A sizable portion of the American left would like to stand with the separatist in Hong Kong by offering them public financial support. Morey echoed those sentiments, which is wholly inappropriate for any public sports organization to espouse unless they are willing to completely abandon the Chinese market.
Literal direct intervention in the politics and internal workings of a sovereign foreign country. It is literally a **** insane train of thought.
I’m not missing the point. It’s one man giving his opinion. He is not in government and his words have zero affect on the actual situation. Your stance is that millionaires and billionaires need to worry about alienating a fan base because they could lose money LOL. Money and greed is a serious problem in this world.

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paulbball wrote:Morey just got himself in titanic troubles. There will be pressure to axe Morey. Rockets is the most Chinese oriented team in the league with close ties to Chinese basketball. Fetitta is retail billionaire and fully understands that it's not wise to take any stance on politics.
Morey is going to 99% come out with a forced apology. Or else he is going to get fired. There is no other way to resolve this issue.
And why do Americans feel the need to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries?
How will you feel if China started funding Black Lives Matter? The Klan? Southern Separatist/Nationalist movements?
Did you really just compare blm to the klan
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:The owner is clearly only concerned with one thing.GeorgeMarcus wrote:MemphisX wrote:
This is how atrocities happen.
We're talking about the NBA, not the US military. If they to do something they can kill this whole preseason arrangement with China out of protest, but outside of that...
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What do you expect him to do in his position? Other than finding a better way to phrase his politically neutral stance
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I don't have a problem with Morey supporting the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong. The NBA has been courting a relationship with China though, and that means the communist government there. So the owner likely doesn't want to alienate people in China who support the ccp. The Rockets have been popular in China since the days of Yao Ming.
That said, **** the ccp for all I care.
That said, **** the ccp for all I care.
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:paulbball wrote:thelead wrote:
It's any decent country with Democratic values that is behind them. We understand that running your country like a dictatorship in certain aspects, trying to recreate 1984 with social credit systems being installed, police beating unarmed people, lack of basic freedoms , controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane and a regression for the entire world.
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Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.
A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.
A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.
A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.
Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.
Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:Well it's not definitive one way or another. Bringing even more attention to a crises is never a bad thing. Our government is already putting the screws to the situation, but getting more of the world involved potentially could add pressure. China is trying to recreate 1984 in their own country.dhsilv2 wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:I also didn't give much thought to that part of my post. Obviously the pro government Chinese could potentially boycott the Rockets and seem enraged. So I get business wise the harm, but I also believe our obligation to mankind is more important. Meh. That being said I stand with Hong Kong too
I don't see how his words do ANYTHING at all to help. No reason to lose money when you're not adding any value either.
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1984 2.0, now with more organ harvesting!
Of course it's a bit disingenuous to say the US is putting the screws to anyone over this. Our official stance is to keep quiet on Hong Kong if China gives us money (better trade deal). No different than the Rockets.
Rather I'd say our politicians are starting to be inspired by China in how to treat certain religions, political opponents, and support for freedoms in other countries among other things.
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Since Yao the rockets have had a dedicated Chinese following, maybe the most popular team in China. Not smart of Morey
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Wow. So Daryl Morey in a now deleted tweet simply posted "Fight for freedom and stand with Hong Kong" and gets blasted by the owner publicly. Morey now deleted this tweet. Sure, politics may be best avoided but Morey didn't say anything all that controversial TBH.
Saying, "stand with Hong Kong" is like giving the middle finger to China and all those Chinese consumers enamored with the Houston Rockets and the NBA.
The Rockets are still one of the two most popular teams in China, even all these years after Yao Ming. So, all in all, not a very smart decision by Morey to threaten their reputation there.

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The owner himself should gtfo before even considering firing Morey, who is legitimately a top GM and has been for quite some time. This is an embarrassing way to deal with it, he should've spoken to Morey privately, had him delete the tweet and have Morey himself clarify that he doesn't speak for the Rockets.
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BoogieTime wrote:Since Yao the rockets have had a dedicated Chinese following, maybe the most popular team in China. Not smart of Morey
Money matters more than human rights even if you have billions... so damn sad.

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paulbball wrote:Morey just got himself in titanic troubles. There will be pressure to axe Morey. Rockets is the most Chinese oriented team in the league with close ties to Chinese basketball. Fetitta is retail billionaire and fully understands that it's not wise to take any stance on politics.
Morey is going to 99% come out with a forced apology. Or else he is going to get fired. There is no other way to resolve this issue.
And why do Americans feel the need to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries?
How will you feel if China started funding Black Lives Matter? The Klan? Southern Separatist/Nationalist movements?
Did you just compare BLM to two bigot organizations that have a history of killing minorities? That’s wild
If China could jump in and help limit police shootings of unarmed minorities then go China ! If I’m Morey I don’t apologize for a damn thing if they want to fire me it’s not like another team won’t him up for major money
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It's quite funny how people are acting like Morey is the one who needs the Rockets. Before anyone of this happened, I already thought that Morey was planning his exit.
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The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.
China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)
Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.
Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.



So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.
PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.
A very sad Hong Kong resident.
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China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)
Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.
Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.




So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.
PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.
A very sad Hong Kong resident.
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kio80 wrote:The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.
China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)
Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.
Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.
So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.
PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.
A very sad Hong Kong resident.
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Most of the violent protesters are just disgruntled unemployable youths with no economic prospects or they would be in school or actually working instead of smashing, burning and looting during working hours on weekdays.
Not to say that all pro-Democracy Protesters in HK are like them, but a sizable portions are just violent destructive rioters at this point.
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As a Rocket fan, I agree with the overall tone of this thread. Tilman seems like a childish and idiotic douche. The fans already hate him for being cheap, if he fires Morey the fan base will eat him alive.
All he had to do was have Morey delete it, and make some BS excuse, like his account was hacked, or that he has an account manager who will be "fired", or take a page from the Donald and just go through the motions of ignoring it - claiming it's fake news - denying it and deflecting it until people don't care anymore.
All he had to do was have Morey delete it, and make some BS excuse, like his account was hacked, or that he has an account manager who will be "fired", or take a page from the Donald and just go through the motions of ignoring it - claiming it's fake news - denying it and deflecting it until people don't care anymore.
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Pennebaker wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
Wow. So Daryl Morey in a now deleted tweet simply posted "Fight for freedom and stand with Hong Kong" and gets blasted by the owner publicly. Morey now deleted this tweet. Sure, politics may be best avoided but Morey didn't say anything all that controversial TBH.
Saying, "stand with Hong Kong" is like giving the middle finger to China and all those Chinese consumers enamored with the Houston Rockets and the NBA.
The Rockets are still one of the two most popular teams in China, even all these years after Yao Ming. So, all in all, not a very smart decision by Morey to threaten their reputation there.
That’s wild wonder what’s the most relatable thing of this to US history? I’m still unsure what with protest and fighting is about
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Good thing Twitter and Western media is banned in China or you'd have a few people upset.

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Someone want to explain why the actual **** he would be talking about Hong Kong if they are in japan like they are related? Or vice versa?








