Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - CP3/Gallo trade idea pg.81

[Chuck Diesel]

Anybody in the house for the scrimmage? Starts in 10.

[Chuck Diesel]

Log onto the live stream, first thing I hear is Zora talking about how she’s covered school shootings and murders. Who’s ready for some Bucks basketball?!

[TroyD92]

bucks.com?

[paulpressey25]

Log onto the live stream, first thing I hear is Zora talking about how she’s covered school shootings and murders. Who’s ready for some Bucks basketball?!

Where is the live stream link?

[TroyD92]

Log onto the live stream, first thing I hear is Zora talking about how she’s covered school shootings and murders. Who’s ready for some Bucks basketball?!

Where is the live stream link?

https://www.nba.com/bucks/2019-open-scrimmage

[paulpressey25]

Thank you. Started a stickied thread on it.

[TroyD92]

Sterling's shot is looking good. Looks way slimmer too.

[Chuck Diesel]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

[DrWood]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

I don't think they'll need to move anyone. If they do, I'd consider moving Matthews or Korver.

But if I had to pick between Pat and Sterling, I'd keep Pat because he's the much better defender.

[Chuck Diesel]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

I don't think they'll need to move anyone. If they do, I'd consider moving Matthews or Korver.

But if I had to pick between Pat and Sterling, I'd keep Pat because he's the much better defender.

Can’t see them dumping vets they just recruited over the summer but it’s possible I guess. Don’t think there’s some enormous gap either way but disagree that Pat’s a “much better defender” than Sterling.

[DrWood]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

I don't think they'll need to move anyone. If they do, I'd consider moving Matthews or Korver.

But if I had to pick between Pat and Sterling, I'd keep Pat because he's the much better defender.

Can’t see them dumping vets they just recruited over the summer but it’s possible I guess. Don’t think there’s some enormous gap either way but disagree that Pat’s a “much better defender” than Sterling.

then you disagree with my eyes and advanced stats.

[Chuck Diesel]

Fine with that.

[Jez2983]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

The flip side of this is playing in the gravity of Giannis helps Pat end up with bigger offers on the table if he does go into free agency.

[truly]

Fine with that.

[Ayt]

My prediction is one of the wings who ends up outside the rotation (probably Brown or Connaughton) will ask out in a more professional, low key way than Thon. I’ll always love Pat Connaughton for what he did to Boston but I think I’d prefer to keep Sterling. The Warriors don’t have much in the cupboard to offer but he’d play like 25 minutes there every night. There are other spots he’d feature more prominently too. I’d look to find a good situation for him in the west. Wouldn't want that guy flying around against us in a payoff series.

Obviously an awesome guy to be able to plug in if someone goes down, just a lot to ask him to sit for months at a time (in a contract year) like he did last season.

Trading useful players during a title run would be idiotic.

[RiotPunch]

RE: Brogdon

It was kind of a 5 Stages of Grief thing for me.

Initially, I was shocked and upset that we didn't match the offer sheet, as I was 100% cool with paying him 4/$80, so 4/$85 was in my ballpark. Stage: Denial

Then I was pissed that we weren't able to maneuver moves in a way that would have created a massive TPE, an undeniably super useful asset to have for a team dealing with cap constraints. Stage: Anger

I started thinking back, wondering what we could have gotten for Malcolm at his peak value. If we knew it would likely end with him walking, why didn't we maximize value? Stage: Bargaining

After thinking from a managerial perspective, you start to think about what you're losing on the court, for your team. You look at the Brogdon Bucks jersey hanging in your closet. You realize that your team got worse on the floor. Stage: Depression

After all that transpired, I'm just thankful that we got some picks out of it. I don't expect owners to know GM CBA stuff, so I give them a pass on their "money better spent elsewhere" statement. They saved tax money and Horst found ways to add some pieces that hopefully bandage up the Brogdon wound without much blood loss. Stage: Acceptance.

[soxperry]

After thinking from a managerial perspective, you start to think about what you're losing on the court, for your team. You look at the Brogdon Bucks jersey hanging in your closet. You realize that your team got worse on the floor. Stage: Depression

[Xanadu]

So haven't posted in awhile. Busy working on a pipeline job the past four months. I know off topic but was pretty interesting experience compared to my normal refractory maintenance jobs. Lots of big equipment moving quickly. Sometimes with you holding the 80 foot joint it's carrying while running to keep up lol.
Anyway on to the topic of Bucks basketball.
First off as one of Brodogs biggest supporters/believer. Losing him sucked but the compensation received is being massively overlooked. That is a decent deadline asset we needed. Without any significant move would be close to impossible. Now everyone hear knows what we lost on the court. How valuable his play was and how hard it will be to replace can be argued ad nauseum. I am on record that I believed he had the potential to be a better second option than Middleton. Going into I thought if made minor improvements to 3 areas he would be a all star caliber player. Those were 3 were finishing/handles/quicken shot release. He got much better as a finisher helping him have a career best year. The other two still need work but it's only his fourth year. If he can improve his handle just enough so he can control his drives. A lot of posters accused him of tunnel vision when he drove. I disagree with that viewpoint. I think that when he attacked he had to commit a hundred percent speed wise for it to work. He just didn't have the ball control to go from 100 to 50. If you watched him when he decided to attack you noticed. It was a straight line drive to the hoop going full throttle so he could use his strength to sort of shield the ball with body and lay it in. His only option besides that was a up and under lay up or a last second pass mid air. With a improved handle I think his great vision/passing he has shown when at the top of the key or in PnR makes his attacking ability that much more dangerous. The quicken of his release has been discussed here many times I am sure. We all know the stat about him shooting with any defender in the zip code. I still believe he has a chance to be a legit few time all star. He has made marked improvements every year he has been in the league. People have said he was at his ceiling his rookie year so I wouldn't bet against him. The only worry for him and Pacer fans is health. He has shown signs of being a injury prone guy. The foot injuries are especially troubling as I could see that being a degenerative type injury. Also about a perfect fit next to Dipo as could be. Works well off ball but is great at running PnR especially with a talented post big ala Moose. We should all remember his PG days and the sick passes to Moose for the easy bunny. His defense has always been a little overrated imo but he is solid. As long as they don't expect him to do to much like match up with most starting PG lol he should be fine.

[brettski]

Have we seen our teams heights posted yet?

[Xanadu]

Now since that post was running a wee bit long lol. I am making a second about replacing my missing Brodog.
DDV is the best hope and chance of replacing Brogdon without missing a beat. In fact if everything goes perfect he could be a small improvement with fit and overall impact. The chance that happens are quite small imo but it's possible. Let's look at what DDV brings that Brogdon lacked or at least was less talented at.
First for me is defensive ability and intensity. Well Brogdon was a solid mistake free guy his lateral quickness really hurt him here. He just did not have the ability to deal with the quickness of most Pgs. DDV on the other hand has enough lateral agility to spare. It was apparent the first time he step on the court that he was going to be a pesky on ball defender. He has that bounce to his step and ability to burst to full speed from a stop. I won't call his athleticism underrated because once everyone calls something underrated it's by definition no longer underrated. It sure as hell is noticable though. With some coaching to corral that constant energy he has all defense team type potential. He can be mistake prone but the he has all the tools needed to be a perimeter stopper.
As far as what we lose defensively by replacing Brodog with DDV. Well a calm assignment sure veteran who is not going to be bullied in the post. I could see bigger guards pushing DDV around. I could also see vets using his aggressiveness to bait him into fouls. Well I definitely give DDV the edge defensively in talent and instincts he needs to be able to apply them consistently without losing sight of his assignment. Brogdon was the type who probably knew everyone else's responsibility defensively along with his own. There by knowing what match ups he could expect help to come from and how much he could provide help as well. Brogdon also gets the nob in all the little things that help winning but fans don't see. Like boxing out when he's supposed to versus getting out on the break. Also stuff that comes with experience and lots of film study. Things like how much space to give your guy off ball. Give to much and you won't be able to contest the three give to little and you open driving lanes for the ball handler.