China cancels NBA stuff / Silver issues statement (pg1) /Ongoing discussion...

[flavio_93]

Lol it’s funny so many people on here outraged and talking about human right and how the nba is bending over for Chinese money....

Meanwhile y’all are wearing nikes made by children and are using iPhones produced in China from slave workers. Take a look around your house. All you hypocrites attacking others for bending over to the Chinese have a house full of Chinese products. You’re the ones funding these governments and companies as well.

[94Nuggets]

Whatever. NBA shouldn't bow down to China. Constant human rights issues, abusing protestors...

China is literally putting Uighurs in “re-education camps” from which people “disappear.” They’re publivally forcing couples to divorce, publically forcing people to eat pork/drink alcohol.

The NBA should be goddamned embarrassed that it’s seek Chinese money when things like this are going on there.

We have more people in prison, than all of China, w/ the re-education camps. We need to fix our ****, before complaining about others. China's population is over 2x ours. Who should be pointing fingers where?

[94Nuggets]

Lol it’s funny so many people on here outraged and talking about human right and how the nba is bending over for Chinese money....

Meanwhile y’all are wearing nikes made by children and are using iPhones produced in China from slave workers. Take a look around your house. All you hypocrites attacking others for bending over to the Chinese have a house full of Chinese products. You’re the ones funding these governments and companies as well.

So many social justice warriors in this thread. It's laughable.

[zimpy27]

Will lock the thread if Trump is mentioned again

[13th Man]

From yesterday:

Read on Twitter

Totally agree with this dude.

Many people here including myself have always had issues with the players, coaches or league becoming progressive and forcing their SJW issues down our throats when at the end of the day, all the fans really want is an escape from their real life problems. We don't need to spend our hard earned money to escape to more political BS.

Look at this very site. Why do you think political talk is not allowed on the General Board? Because it is a clear distraction from the real topics that we all want to discuss which is basketball. So why would anyone endorse activism in sports when it causes a huge distraction?

The NBA made this bed imo. They, along with the mainstream media like ESPN, TNT etc. have turned SJW on us. Everybody in the league suddenly thinks that they are some world changer activist with their holier than thou opinions when they should be focusing on what they're good at and what they're getting paid for.

What I find ever more funny and hypocritical is that all these Trump hating activists that are now are silent and bowing down to China whereas Trump is actually the one who is standing up to China and not letting them bully us. Anyone else see the irony in all of this?

Let's be clear, I support democracy in Hong Kong, but I certainly care far more about democracy in my own country, the US. So yeah, in that regard Trump's attacks on American democracy are most important to most Americans, especially since he already promised China to stay quite about Hong Kong if it was financially beneficial, which means he's taken the exact same stance on HK that the NBA has.

Most people's problem with how Trump took on China is the impact it had on Americans. But if farmers are okay with supporting a politician who will put them out of business, I guess other Americans probably shouldn't care.

And I think your argument that because someone does the right thing all of the time, they shouldn't bother to ever do the right thing is probably the best summation of Trumpism I've ever heard.

I think that Trump is doing the right thing by staying out of Chinese political turmoil within their country. It's not America's job to govern how other countries are run, he has his own people to worry about. The tariff battle that he has with China is solely for the best interest of the American people, nobody else. You can argue on its effectiveness and that is fair but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

If you meddle in other country's political affairs then be ready to accept the consequences. What I do find funny are people that think Morey could state his mind without reprecussion just because he is in America. Sorry but the Chinese do not respect your idealogies, they can and will act upon their behalf however they wish. Say "stupid" things and deal with the consequences.

[Mephariel]

Totally agree with this dude.

Many people here including myself have always had issues with the players, coaches or league becoming progressive and forcing their SJW issues down our throats when at the end of the day, all the fans really want is an escape from their real life problems. We don't need to spend our hard earned money to escape to more political BS.

Look at this very site. Why do you think political talk is not allowed on the General Board? Because it is a clear distraction from the real topics that we all want to discuss which is basketball. So why would anyone endorse activism in sports when it causes a huge distraction?

The NBA made this bed imo. They, along with the mainstream media like ESPN, TNT etc. have turned SJW on us. Everybody in the league suddenly thinks that they are some world changer activist with their holier than thou opinions when they should be focusing on what they're good at and what they're getting paid for.

What I find ever more funny and hypocritical is that all these Trump hating activists that are now are silent and bowing down to China whereas Trump is actually the one who is standing up to China and not letting them bully us. Anyone else see the irony in all of this?

So basically, don't talk about politics because you don't agree with them? If Tom Brady kneed down to pay respect to fallen policemen, would you have an issue with it? Athletes are people and they can talk about topics like normal people talk about.

And there is no irony. Trump standing up to China is basically him trying to start something he has no clue how to finish, but it looks good to the America public. The trade war has been a disaster. If he really want to stand up to China, why doesn't he pull Ivanka's business out of there? Why doesn't he stop trading with China until they let Hong Kong go? Why doesn't Trump openly side with Hong Kong? Trump made millions off of China but he is standing up to them?

Yes I would have issue with it if it's done during the game. I don't discriminate between race, I simply feel that there is no place for politics during sporting events because it can smart off trivial but then where's the line? As we are witnessing now it could easily spiral into something much bigger and even financially catastrophic for the league.

If you want to push your political agenda, do it on your own time and use proper judgement. Just because it's a free country doesn''t mean that you can say whatever you feel like without possible reprucussions especially if it puts your employer in a bad light.

I'm not going to delve deep into the politics because we're not supposed to here. At least Trump is standing up to them, that was my main point. The NBA is doing what exactly? Cowering down to them.

All of this would've never been an issue if the players/leaugue/management/GMs just stayed in their lanes and not think that they're some world changer. Morey tweeted later that knew little on the subject and just posted one perspective, why even bother? How about just STFU and do your job which is GMing?

Like I said, the NBA sort of encouraged this type of mentality, so they made their own bed while many of us think that there's no business for political activism in sports.

NBA players are people. They are going to have political viewpoints and some are more vocal than others. You don't have to agree with them, and you can criticize, but if they are saying what the league is allowing them to do, why do you care? It is not like NBA players are telling teams there can be no repercussions. If there are repercussions, then the players need to be prepare to face them. Now, if a player comes out and say he is immune to consequences, then that is one thing. But that is not what is happening here.

[Liminy]

NBA bowing down to the Chinese Communist Party is a joke.

They don't have choice. Morey basically just spoke on behalf of the NBA in China's eyes

Chinese viewership is one of the key cogs of the NBA's revenue base, & no point in jeopardizing it because of the stupidity of one guy who was ignorant enough to think there would be no backlash

He should have swallowed his conscience and censored himself? If there is a place to take a moral stand in the world, it is against China's incredible record of violence and oppression not to mention censorship and using threats to keep everyone quite about their abuses. They can't even stand people in the us bringing it up.

[sikma42]

There will be no substantive response to this post.

Lol it’s funny so many people on here outraged and talking about human right and how the nba is bending over for Chinese money....

Meanwhile y’all are wearing nikes made by children and are using iPhones produced in China from slave workers. Take a look around your house. All you hypocrites attacking others for bending over to the Chinese have a house full of Chinese products. You’re the ones funding these governments and companies as well.

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[94Nuggets]

NBA bowing down to the Chinese Communist Party is a joke.

They don't have choice. Morey basically just spoke on behalf of the NBA in China's eyes

Chinese viewership is one of the key cogs of the NBA's revenue base, & no point in jeopardizing it because of the stupidity of one guy who was ignorant enough to think there would be no backlash

He should have swallowed his conscience and censored himself? If there is a place to take a moral stand in the world, it is against China's incredible record of violence and oppression not to mention censorship and using threats to keep everyone quite about their abuses. They can't even stand people in the us bringing it up.

Didn't we just invade Iraq and Afghanistan for no reason 2 decades ago, and still have a presence there. Look in the mirror bro.

[94Nuggets]

Double Post

[Blazers-1977]

And the NBA has taken hits form senators on both sides of the isle over this:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nbas-apology-china-draws-outrage-political-spectrum-1245772

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/senators-slam-nba-for-yielding-to-china-over-morey-hong-kong-tweet.html

[Liminy]

Totally agree with this dude.

Many people here including myself have always had issues with the players, coaches or league becoming progressive and forcing their SJW issues down our throats when at the end of the day, all the fans really want is an escape from their real life problems. We don't need to spend our hard earned money to escape to more political BS.

Look at this very site. Why do you think political talk is not allowed on the General Board? Because it is a clear distraction from the real topics that we all want to discuss which is basketball. So why would anyone endorse activism in sports when it causes a huge distraction?

The NBA made this bed imo. They, along with the mainstream media like ESPN, TNT etc. have turned SJW on us. Everybody in the league suddenly thinks that they are some world changer activist with their holier than thou opinions when they should be focusing on what they're good at and what they're getting paid for.

What I find ever more funny and hypocritical is that all these Trump hating activists that are now are silent and bowing down to China whereas Trump is actually the one who is standing up to China and not letting them bully us. Anyone else see the irony in all of this?

Let's be clear, I support democracy in Hong Kong, but I certainly care far more about democracy in my own country, the US. So yeah, in that regard Trump's attacks on American democracy are most important to most Americans, especially since he already promised China to stay quite about Hong Kong if it was financially beneficial, which means he's taken the exact same stance on HK that the NBA has.

Most people's problem with how Trump took on China is the impact it had on Americans. But if farmers are okay with supporting a politician who will put them out of business, I guess other Americans probably shouldn't care.

And I think your argument that because someone does the right thing all of the time, they shouldn't bother to ever do the right thing is probably the best summation of Trumpism I've ever heard.

I think that Trump is doing the right thing by staying out of Chinese political turmoil within their country. It's not America's job to govern how other countries are run, he has his own people to worry about. The tariff battle that he has with China is solely for the best interest of the American people, nobody else. You can argue on its effectiveness and that is fair but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.

If you meddle in other country's political affairs then be ready to accept the consequences. What I do find funny are people that think Morey could state his mind without reprecussion just because he is in America. Sorry but the Chinese do not respect your idealogies, they can and will act upon their behalf however they wish. Say "stupid" things and deal with the consequences.

Right, the Chinese government can do what it wants, but this whole situation shows all of us what they want and how they think and act so we shouldn't be buying all of their stuff and giving them all of the money they need to suppress their own people and build up their military. We might be next.

[94Nuggets]

Right, the Chinese government can do what it wants, but this whole situation shows all of us what they want and how they think and act so we shouldn't be buying all of their stuff and giving them all of the money they need to suppress their own people and build up their military. We might be next.

So we can invade multiple countries w/o cause, cause the deaths of 100s of thousands of people, and China needs to get a clue. Get your tinfoil hat off man.

[Blazers-1977]

Totally agree with this dude.

Many people here including myself have always had issues with the players, coaches or league becoming progressive and forcing their SJW issues down our throats when at the end of the day, all the fans really want is an escape from their real life problems. We don't need to spend our hard earned money to escape to more political BS.

Look at this very site. Why do you think political talk is not allowed on the General Board? Because it is a clear distraction from the real topics that we all want to discuss which is basketball. So why would anyone endorse activism in sports when it causes a huge distraction?

The NBA made this bed imo. They, along with the mainstream media like ESPN, TNT etc. have turned SJW on us. Everybody in the league suddenly thinks that they are some world changer activist with their holier than thou opinions when they should be focusing on what they're good at and what they're getting paid for.

What I find ever more funny and hypocritical is that all these Trump hating activists that are now are silent and bowing down to China whereas Trump is actually the one who is standing up to China and not letting them bully us. Anyone else see the irony in all of this?

So basically, don't talk about politics because you don't agree with them? If Tom Brady kneed down to pay respect to fallen policemen, would you have an issue with it? Athletes are people and they can talk about topics like normal people talk about.

And there is no irony. Trump standing up to China is basically him trying to start something he has no clue how to finish, but it looks good to the America public. The trade war has been a disaster. If he really want to stand up to China, why doesn't he pull Ivanka's business out of there? Why doesn't he stop trading with China until they let Hong Kong go? Why doesn't Trump openly side with Hong Kong? Trump made millions off of China but he is standing up to them?

Yes I would have issue with it if it's done during the game. I don't discriminate between race, I simply feel that there is no place for politics during sporting events because it can smart off trivial but then where's the line? As we are witnessing now it could easily spiral into something much bigger and even financially catastrophic for the league.

If you want to push your political agenda, do it on your own time and use proper judgement. Just because it's a free country doesn''t mean that you can say whatever you feel like without possible reprucussions especially if it puts your employer in a bad light.

I'm not going to delve deep into the politics because we're not supposed to here. At least Trump is standing up to them, that was my main point. The NBA is doing what exactly? Cowering down to them.

All of this would've never been an issue if the players/leaugue/management/GMs just stayed in their lanes and not think that they're some world changer. Morey tweeted later that knew little on the subject and just posted one perspective, why even bother? How about just STFU and do your job which is GMing?

Like I said, the NBA sort of encouraged this type of mentality, so they made their own bed while many of us think that there's no business for political activism in sports.

The NBA responded terribly to this but to compare a Pro Sports league to the United States President on this is laughable as its literally part of the President's job description to deal with stuff like this. Heck its literally the job of our politicians in general no matter which party they are from to deal with this while it is not the job of the NBA to deal with this.

Now that doesnt mean the NBA should cower down to them, obviously not, but to compare their role in this to the President or really any politician is laughable

[SpreeChokeJob]

Money talks. BS walks.

Everyone's hand is dirty but pretend to be cleaner than others. The only thing that matters is who comes out on top declare who has the cleanest hands.

[94Nuggets]

Money talks. BS walks.

Everyone's hand is dirty but pretend to be cleaner than others. The only thing that matters is who comes out on top declare who has the cleanest hands.

This is true. The winners write history, obviously in their favor.

[Geddy]

Always thought Reddit was full of CCP shills, didn't realize RealGM had its share too

[13th Man]

So basically, don't talk about politics because you don't agree with them? If Tom Brady kneed down to pay respect to fallen policemen, would you have an issue with it? Athletes are people and they can talk about topics like normal people talk about.

And there is no irony. Trump standing up to China is basically him trying to start something he has no clue how to finish, but it looks good to the America public. The trade war has been a disaster. If he really want to stand up to China, why doesn't he pull Ivanka's business out of there? Why doesn't he stop trading with China until they let Hong Kong go? Why doesn't Trump openly side with Hong Kong? Trump made millions off of China but he is standing up to them?

Yes I would have issue with it if it's done during the game. I don't discriminate between race, I simply feel that there is no place for politics during sporting events because it can smart off trivial but then where's the line? As we are witnessing now it could easily spiral into something much bigger and even financially catastrophic for the league.

If you want to push your political agenda, do it on your own time and use proper judgement. Just because it's a free country doesn''t mean that you can say whatever you feel like without possible reprucussions especially if it puts your employer in a bad light.

I'm not going to delve deep into the politics because we're not supposed to here. At least Trump is standing up to them, that was my main point. The NBA is doing what exactly? Cowering down to them.

All of this would've never been an issue if the players/leaugue/management/GMs just stayed in their lanes and not think that they're some world changer. Morey tweeted later that knew little on the subject and just posted one perspective, why even bother? How about just STFU and do your job which is GMing?

Like I said, the NBA sort of encouraged this type of mentality, so they made their own bed while many of us think that there's no business for political activism in sports.

NBA players are people. They are going to have political viewpoints and some are more vocal than others. You don't have to agree with them, and you can criticize, but if they are saying what the league is allowing them to do, why do you care? It is not like NBA players are telling teams there can be no repercussions. If there are repercussions, then the players need to be prepare to face them. Now, if a player comes out and say he is immune to consequences, then that is one thing. But that is not what is happening here.

I've already stated my reasons many times on why I care. Because I pay for cable or go to sporting events as a means to de-stress and escape from the real world problems. Why should I pay money for entertainment to be fed something that was not advertised which could possibly get me worked up for no good reason? If I wanted to get worked up, I would engage in political debates and such, there are various other avenues for that.

I've said from day one to keep political BS out of sports and I stand by this. The fact that the NBA was supporting and encouraging this type of behaviour probably pushed others like Morey to follow suit. They've been playing a dangerous game all along and many people like yourself use the argument of "why do you care?" or "where is the harm?'. As you can see the line is very thin between no harm and catastrophic harm as we're witnessing right now.

It' simple. Don't allow engagement of political/SJW BS into the league and you won't get burned.

[94Nuggets]

Always thought Reddit was full of CCP shills, didn't realize RealGM had its share too

A mod saying this, SMFH. The stupid is strong with you.

[scrabbarista]

Lol. They got bots on RealGM. Their reach goes far and wide. Be careful y'all.

It's funny, but it's probably true.

18% voted "Hail, China!" Apparently, their reading comprehension is a lot better than their writing ability. Plenty of point-and-click voters, but only one or two willing to really make a weak attempt at defending their employer, the CCP.