Celtics exposed?

[bisme37]

I legit have no idea what this thread is about. We've played one preseason game and won it. And I'd be surprised if more than 5 non-celtics fans on here even watched the game. This is just a random, general "feel good" thread for Celtic haters I guess?

You know exactly what it's about. You saw the game, and you saw the Charlotte Guards, running past Kanter like a traffic cone. That's what the OP is saying.

This is a four page thread about how the Celtics were exposed in a preseason win. Ok.

It was actually Robert Williams who was playing the worst defense of the bigs. Kanter was in during the run we made to re-take the lead and the team got a lot of stops in that period.

Anyway, I think everyone realizes the team has some holes and flaws (like 95% of the league). I haven't seen many people who are expecting us to win a championship this season. Can't we just be a good team? Or that's not acceptable and must be ridiculed?

[RHODEY]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

It has been extremely under reported exactly what they lost outside of Kyrie....

-They had 3 bigs who could defend, and in horfords case at an extremely high level (Horford, morris, baynes).
-Those 3 bigs also stretched the floor. Morris and Horford are 2 guys you can space the floor with without going small.
-They lost NBA calibur depth. Maybe a young guy steps up, but right now they really only go 7 deep with nba players. and when we talk about depth, its not just the bench playing well, its having nba level players to step in and start when injuries happen

It has been reported many times how the biggest loss is our big men.

Not on TV, all they talked about was losing Kyrie Kyrie /getting Kemba and just posing the question of "It will be interesting to se how the Celts deal with the loss of Horford"...when it should have been... "the Celtics should take a major step back from losing not just Horford but Baynes and Morris.

Poor TV analysis via omission and likely the need to push the narrative that Boston is still a big market contending team.

[bisme37]

It has been extremely under reported exactly what they lost outside of Kyrie....

-They had 3 bigs who could defend, and in horfords case at an extremely high level (Horford, morris, baynes).
-Those 3 bigs also stretched the floor. Morris and Horford are 2 guys you can space the floor with without going small.
-They lost NBA calibur depth. Maybe a young guy steps up, but right now they really only go 7 deep with nba players. and when we talk about depth, its not just the bench playing well, its having nba level players to step in and start when injuries happen

It has been reported many times how the biggest loss is our big men.

Not on TV, all they talked about was losing Kyrie Kyrie /getting Kemba and just posing the question of "It will be interesting to se how the Celts deal with the loss of Horford"...when it should have been... "the Celtics should take a major step back from losing not just Horford but Baynes and Morris.

Poor TV analysis via omission and likely the need to push the narrative that Boston is still a big market contending team.

Bro maybe you should write an email to whatever TV station you were watching and log a complaint. I don't know why you're chewing the Celtics out because of an unnamed TV show you disagree with.

[cupcakesnake]

Celtics are going to be in the race for the number one pick unless they make some big moves. Can't make the playoffs with no defense. They probably have the worse interia defense in the league, and a really poor defensive point guard. The only thing that can save them is their coach, but even Stevens can not preform miracles with this mess.

The Celtics have enough defensive personnel. Jaylen Brown, Ojeleye and Marcus Smart are two of the switchiest players in the NBA. Theis and Tatum are positive defenders. Hayward sounds healthy. They have some young defensive bigs and one of them might pop. Brad Stevens is a good defensive coach.

I think Boston will be mediocre this year and that the loss of Horford was not measured accurately when analysts were predicting records. But as long as they avoid long stretches of Kemba and Kanter on the floor, they'll be just fine. The Spurs managed a top 3 defense over 2 years (1st and 3rd) starting old Tony Parker and old Pau Gasol and teams would obliterate them in pick & rolls. They compensated with a strong defensive bench unit and some switchy perimeter defenders.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Celtics are going to be in the race for the number one pick unless they make some big moves. Can't make the playoffs with no defense. .

[LloydFree]

Celtics are going to be in the race for the number one pick unless they make some big moves. Can't make the playoffs with no defense. They probably have the worse interia defense in the league, and a really poor defensive point guard. The only thing that can save them is their coach, but even Stevens can not preform miracles with this mess.

The Celtics have enough defensive personnel. Jaylen Brown, Ojeleye and Marcus Smart are two of the switchiest players in the NBA. Theis and Tatum are positive defenders. Hayward sounds healthy. They have some young defensive bigs and one of them might pop. Brad Stevens is a good defensive coach.

I think Boston will be mediocre this year and that the loss of Horford was not measured accurately when analysts were predicting records. But as long as they avoid long stretches of Kemba and Kanter on the floor, they'll be just fine. The Spurs managed a top 3 defense over 2 years (1st and 3rd) starting old Tony Parker and old Pau Gasol and teams would obliterate them in pick & rolls. They compensated with a strong defensive bench unit and some switchy perimeter defenders.

What? The Spurs had Kawhi Leonard.

[ITYSL]

After one preseason game lmao, never change GB

[mademan]

Crazy. Even if Hayward goes back to who he is and Tatum takes a big step forward, thats a lay up line. Kanter defending the PnR is not something you want happening for the majority of the game

[CIN-C-STAR]

I didn't understand why they shipped Baynes to Phoenix in what was basically a salary dump.
The guy is an excellent big defender and rim protector. They couldn't have found a use for that, at least situationally?

I thought they needed the money for Kemba?

Or maybe I just assumed it at the time.

Yea, you're right. I guess I had assumed that by letting Kyrie AND Horford walk they would have had room to sign Kemba already, but I guess that wasn't the case.
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2019/06/21/aron-baynes-trade-draft-picks-suns
Getting the #24 pick to absorb Baynes' $5.4 million, one-year deal was quite a coup for Phoenix.
I'm sure they'll manage to screw it up, but can't argue with that deal on paper

[Bad-Thoma]

Lol, "exposed" after one preseason game. I love haters.

[The_Hater]

Is this thread based on an exhibition game? Really?

[Duke4life831]

Not sure how an interior defense that consist of Kanter and 2nd year Williams can get exposed. Were the expectations for their interior defense even high?

Youre right I meant the Celtics overall.

Oh if that is the point you're trying to make, then no. We are talking about 1 preseason game that they won. How bout we give them 20-30 games in the regular season until we start talking getting exposed?

[Slartibartfast]

It's bizarre watching Kanter choose to box out his guy over contesting a lay-up.

[Karate Diop]

It's preseason... But yes the Celtics center rotation does project to be a problem for them come the regular season. People claiming that a player of Robert Williams' caliber will change things are seriously delusional...

[Johnny Bball]

Keep talking and they're gonna slap you all the way to Tuesday.

If he had two overly violent brothers, that would a be perfect look.

[MoneyTalks41890]

They badly need veteran frontcourt players that can play some defense. They should try to get their hands on Favors if they can.

[Prokorov]

Not sure how an interior defense that consist of Kanter and 2nd year Williams can get exposed. Were the expectations for their interior defense even high?

Youre right I meant the Celtics overall.

Oh if that is the point you're trying to make, then no. We are talking about 1 preseason game that they won. How bout we give them 20-30 games in the regular season until we start talking getting exposed?

we know kanter is one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. he has shown that for years. what do we need 20-30 games for?

[GWVan]

Is this a Celtics hate thread or a Kantor hate thread? just want to understand.

[StojkoVrankovic]

If we only had 10 million to throw at an equally bad defender in Jordan, oh well

[Duke4life831]

Youre right I meant the Celtics overall.

Oh if that is the point you're trying to make, then no. We are talking about 1 preseason game that they won. How bout we give them 20-30 games in the regular season until we start talking getting exposed?

we know kanter is one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. he has shown that for years. what do we need 20-30 games for?

Ya exactly, so his weakness should've already been included on the Celtics predictions for this year. Im not sure how 1 preseason game exposed the Celtics, since the main issue everyone seems to be talking about is the main issue everyone knew they were going to have.