Celtics exposed?

[LloydFree]

They’ll win between 48-52 games and lose in the 2nd round and once again those same talking heads will be slobbering brads nuts

If this team wins 52 games, without major personnel additions, the talking heads should slobber on Brad. Undercover, the Celtics talent level isn't much better than any of the other 3-8 teams in the East. We're just assuming Brad Stevens can do the same thing with this squad as he did with the Isaiah Thomas squad. But that squad had Horford and Isaiah was a better shooter then, than Kemba is now. If Stevens gets this team to 52 wins, he'd deserve all the praise he gets.

[MagicBagley18]

They’ll win between 48-52 games and lose in the 2nd round and once again those same talking heads will be slobbering brads nuts

If this team wins 52 games, without major personnel additions, the talking heads should slobber on Brad. Undercover, the Celtics talent level isn't much better than any of the other 3-8 teams in the East. We're just assuming Brad Stevens can do the same thing with this squad as he did with the Isaiah Thomas squad. But that squad had Horford and Isaiah was a better shooter then than Kemba is now. If Stevens gets this team to 52 wins, he'd deserve all the praise he gets.

Nice....talk to me in April when seeds are done and records are finalized and If you wanna talk about assuming -your assuming Hayward isn’t the player he was pre injury or close to it, assuming Tatum or brown aren’t any better, assuming Stevens won’t Elevate Kembas play like he has the last 2 score first guards he had.

Hayward healthy is better than anyone on the pre-horford teams and brown and Tatum are better players and more talented than crowder and Bradley were.

[RHODEY]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

Standard reminder that there is no 'ESPN'--the network employs dozens of writers and personalities, many of whom are idiots and some of whom are pretty sharp. Saying 'BSPN' did X or Y makes no sense since there's virtually nothing Kevin Pelton and Zach Lowe are going to agree with Skip Bayless and Ryan Hollins about.

There is also this quote from a "BSPN" story in July. Plenty of people, including on ESPN, saw this coming, so his comment is a typical strawman. From https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27189056/nba-power-rankings-league-best-teams-now :

It will be much more difficult to make up for losing Horford. Enes Kanter will likely be Boston's starting center, with second-year big man Robert Williams III, Frenchman Vincent Poirier and German Daniel Theis behind him. They will give Boston a few ways to play, but not nearly at the same level of skill and poise that Horford, one of the league's most versatile bigs, did. That, in turn, puts a ceiling on just how good Boston can be -- regardless of how much growth the Celtics get from young wings Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

No mention of Baynes or Morris.

[ITYSL]

Standard reminder that there is no 'ESPN'--the network employs dozens of writers and personalities, many of whom are idiots and some of whom are pretty sharp. Saying 'BSPN' did X or Y makes no sense since there's virtually nothing Kevin Pelton and Zach Lowe are going to agree with Skip Bayless and Ryan Hollins about.

There is also this quote from a "BSPN" story in July. Plenty of people, including on ESPN, saw this coming, so his comment is a typical strawman. From https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27189056/nba-power-rankings-league-best-teams-now :

It will be much more difficult to make up for losing Horford. Enes Kanter will likely be Boston's starting center, with second-year big man Robert Williams III, Frenchman Vincent Poirier and German Daniel Theis behind him. They will give Boston a few ways to play, but not nearly at the same level of skill and poise that Horford, one of the league's most versatile bigs, did. That, in turn, puts a ceiling on just how good Boston can be -- regardless of how much growth the Celtics get from young wings Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown.

No mention of Baynes or Morris.

Doesn't matter. It brought up the front court issues. The front court issues have been brought up repeatedly throughout the sports media all summer, and it has been a top topic on the Celtics board and on this GB. So you implying that it was never raised just isn't true.

[RHODEY]

There is also this quote from a "BSPN" story in July. Plenty of people, including on ESPN, saw this coming, so his comment is a typical strawman. From https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27189056/nba-power-rankings-league-best-teams-now :

No mention of Baynes or Morris.

Doesn't matter. It brought up the front court issues. The front court issues have been brought up repeatedly throughout the sports media all summer, and it has been a top topic on the Celtics board and on this GB. So you implying that it was never raised just isn't true.

It was severely understated. You may have the worst interior defense in the entire league and that defense was comprised of more than just Horford. With what tthe Celt lost there should not have been any talk of them being in the top 4, Typical Celts media bias.

[SeanDaRyan]

Celtics are a 8th maybe a 7th seed MAX

[NatiboyB]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

[LloydFree]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

[ITYSL]

No mention of Baynes or Morris.

Doesn't matter. It brought up the front court issues. The front court issues have been brought up repeatedly throughout the sports media all summer, and it has been a top topic on the Celtics board and on this GB. So you implying that it was never raised just isn't true.

It was severely understated. You may have the worst interior defense in the entire league and that defense was comprised of more than just Horford. With what tthe Celt lost there should not have been any talk of them being in the top 4, Typical Celts media bias.

Good job moving the goalposts. First it was that "BSPN" couldn't see it coming. Now that I've shown that everyone saw it as being an issue, you move the goalposts to it being "severely understated." The front-court issues basically comprised half of the blurb about the Celtics in the ESPN article I posted.

We'll agree to disagree on whether talk of Celtics being top 4 in the East is justified. The East is weak and there are several teams on a lower tier below the Bucks and Sixers that could get a top 4 seed, Celtics included.

[RHODEY]

Doesn't matter. It brought up the front court issues. The front court issues have been brought up repeatedly throughout the sports media all summer, and it has been a top topic on the Celtics board and on this GB. So you implying that it was never raised just isn't true.

It was severely understated. You may have the worst interior defense in the entire league and that defense was comprised of more than just Horford. With what tthe Celt lost there should not have been any talk of them being in the top 4, Typical Celts media bias.

Good job moving the goalposts. First it was that "BSPN" couldn't see it coming. Now that I've shown that everyone saw it as being an issue, you move the goalposts to it being "severely understated." The front-court issues basically comprised half of the blurb about the Celtics in the ESPN article I posted.

We'll agree to disagree on whether talk of Celtics being top 4 in the East is justified. The East is weak and there are several teams on a lower tier below the Bucks and Sixers that could get a top 4 seed, Celtics included.

Not that weak. I predict that you will struggle to make the playoffs.

[ITYSL]

It was severely understated. You may have the worst interior defense in the entire league and that defense was comprised of more than just Horford. With what tthe Celt lost there should not have been any talk of them being in the top 4, Typical Celts media bias.

Good job moving the goalposts. First it was that "BSPN" couldn't see it coming. Now that I've shown that everyone saw it as being an issue, you move the goalposts to it being "severely understated." The front-court issues basically comprised half of the blurb about the Celtics in the ESPN article I posted.

We'll agree to disagree on whether talk of Celtics being top 4 in the East is justified. The East is weak and there are several teams on a lower tier below the Bucks and Sixers that could get a top 4 seed, Celtics included.

Not that weak. I predict that you will struggle to make the playoffs.

OK. Sig bet for **** and giggles? If the Celtics are the 8 seed or worse, you win. 1-7 seed and I win. Reward is choosing the other person's signature for one month.

[HotelVitale]

Doesn't matter. It brought up the front court issues. The front court issues have been brought up repeatedly throughout the sports media all summer, and it has been a top topic on the Celtics board and on this GB. So you implying that it was never raised just isn't true.

It was severely understated. You may have the worst interior defense in the entire league and that defense was comprised of more than just Horford. With what tthe Celt lost there should not have been any talk of them being in the top 4, Typical Celts media bias.

Hmm, other guy quoted one pretty relaxed two-sentence comment saying things will be tough for the Celtics and you still hit back with the 'media bias' accusation. Look I hate the Celtics as much as anyone but honestly haven't noticed the media being very optimistic about them at all; most of the comments I've read (though I usually only read decent commentators/analysts) emphasize that it's going to be a tough year and that they're through as serious threats but should be medium-good. Most seem to have them in the middle of the EC, somewhere between 4-6. That seems fair, though it could easily be worse with some bad luck and probably won't be better unless there's a major stroke of good luck.

[Froob]

Time to tank for Tua

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I legit have no idea what this thread is about. We've played one preseason game and won it. And I'd be surprised if more than 5 non-celtics fans on here even watched the game. This is just a random, general "feel good" thread for Celtic haters I guess?

You know exactly what it's about. You saw the game, and you saw the Charlotte Guards, running past Kanter like a traffic cone. That's what the OP is saying.

This is a four page thread about how the Celtics were exposed in a preseason win. Ok.

It was actually Robert Williams who was playing the worst defense of the bigs. Kanter was in during the run we made to re-take the lead and the team got a lot of stops in that period.

Anyway, I think everyone realizes the team has some holes and flaws (like 95% of the league). No one is expecting us to win a championship this season. Can't we just be "pretty good" this year? Or that's not acceptable and must be ridiculed?

No. Clearly that's not acceptable.

People just love to try and bring down the Celtics for their sustained success over the years and now after last year they are digging in hard.

It's good to know people are constantly thinking about us though

[SmartWentCrazy]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

Could be worse— they couldve spent it on Markelle Fultz and Zhaire Smith.

[GeorgeMarcus]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

Could be worse— they couldve spent it on Markelle Fultz and Zhaire Smith.

What’s wrong with Zhaire? After almost dying last year and losing 30 lbs, he’s back up to speed and looks great.

As for Fultz, we should have held onto him instead of trading him to ORL for garbage, but Lloyd of all people won’t agree with that.

[Feed Your Head]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

The Grizzlies pick is top 6 protected this year, then unprotected next year. That is an extremely valuable piece, whether to keep or in a trade. And to be fair, the treasure trove also got them Tatum and Jaylen.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

Could be worse— they couldve spent it on Markelle Fultz and Zhaire Smith.

What’s wrong with Zhaire? After almost dying last year and losing 30 lbs, he’s back up to speed and looks great.

As for Fultz, we should have held onto him instead of trading him to ORL for garbage, but Lloyd of all people won’t agree with that.

Whats wrong with Langford or Grant Williams?

[LloydFree]

doesn't Danny still have a treasure trove of trade assets that he can use to go get a superstar on the trade block? They are just waiting on the next superstar big man to want out....

I believe they have have the Memphis protected '20 pick and the Bucks '20 pick. Much of their anticipated treasure trove was spent on Romeo Langford and Grant Williams

Could be worse— they couldve spent it on Markelle Fultz and Zhaire Smith.

You're right. That would have been worse. Good thing the GM that was stupid enough to trade (the entire Hinkie-Divac treasure trove) for Markelle Fultz, is no longer employed by the 76ers and is rightly out of the NBA

[GeorgeMarcus]

Could be worse— they couldve spent it on Markelle Fultz and Zhaire Smith.

What’s wrong with Zhaire? After almost dying last year and losing 30 lbs, he’s back up to speed and looks great.

As for Fultz, we should have held onto him instead of trading him to ORL for garbage, but Lloyd of all people won’t agree with that.

Whats wrong with Langford or Grant Williams?

I didn’t say anything about those guys, and frankly I haven’t watched them enough to say