OT: Official KP Thread

[ChaosHamster]

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by all the comments, KP looked very good.

[robillionaire]

yeah I watched the mavs open practice, KP dominated it and he and Luka will be absolutely unstoppable. Frank will be playing there next year as well and should help on D.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Really disappointed we couldn't keep him. Oh well. What can you do? I'm focused on what we do have going forward. Porzingis would have looked great next to Mitch.

[Zenzibar]

Really disappointed we couldn't keep him. Oh well. What can you do? I'm focused on what we do have going forward. Porzingis would have looked great next to Mitch.

Even during the Durant conversations, imagining 3-7 footers in the front court.

But next to Mitch? Wow, fun times with ally-oops and swats.

The relationship with the organization was strained back during the Phil Jackson/Melo years, something about Porzingis's team that rubbed PhilJax the wrong way.
Then Mills and Perry had enough, of the behind the scenes stuff as well. i.e
Not getting evaluated and treated by team doctors. Fk, you have some the best sports doctors in the world here.
A new contract with coaching input and other crazy clauses? Who knows.

But I'll enjoy his play from afar as he never entrenched himself in NY anyway.

If Frank joins them, they will automatically become one young exciting club.
But I think he'll love Utah more and playing with Donovan Mitchell and fellow frenchman Rudy Gorbert.

[Clyde_Style]

Unless KP found his iron pills, he is still going to gas in the 2nd half of the season. And he may just be fragile at the end of the day so yeah he might look great for a while, but who cares if that doesn't translate into playoff magic?

[Zenzibar]

Unless KP found his iron pills, he is still going to gas in the 2nd half of the season. And he may just be fragile at the end of the day so yeah he might look great for a while, but who cares if that doesn't translate into playoff magic?

Playoffs?
The Lakers didn't even make the playoffs last year, good luck playing for the lottery for awhile. jjjj

[duetta]

I loved KP when he was on the court and playing with real energy - which was about 50% of his Knick career.

I have no confidence that KP will ever stay healthy.

[Side beard]

Really disappointed we couldn't keep him. Oh well. What can you do? I'm focused on what we do have going forward. Porzingis would have looked great next to Mitch.

This is what 99% were hoping for. KP and Mitch together along side with star and whoever Knicks drafts. But sadly, both parties could not find common language.

[malik959]

You know how it goes, if he were still here he'd actually be charged with the crime he committed. There was probably a deal that said if u dont leave than your goink to Rykers. So he said "Get me the F up outta here!"

[dakomish23]

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This is gonna be so easy for them

[BKlutch]

So KP is not playing in the preseason opener. Do you think he's already worn out from training camp?

[Chanel Bomber]

Really disappointed we couldn't keep him. Oh well. What can you do? I'm focused on what we do have going forward. Porzingis would have looked great next to Mitch.

This is what 99% were hoping for. KP and Mitch together along side with star and whoever Knicks drafts. But sadly, both parties could not find common language.

You can't play two 7-footers together in 2019, especially when one of them is a non-shooter. The Knicks would have had to choose between KP and Mitch at some point anyway. They made a decision before they ever had to make that choice, so as long as Mitch develops, we don't have to feel too bad about KP.

[Cookies4Life]

I think DSJ will be the first to dunk it on KP instead of RJ. DSJ has that ridiculous vertical and nastiness to his dunking game, it'll be interesting to see what happens when/if KP meets him at the rim.

Kristaps is a very good player but he still has his deficiencies outside of what's already been well documented. He's never been a good rebounder for someone of his size and he always had issues with double teams when he played out of the post. He's not as efficient as he should be offensively and he's probably an average shooter from behind the arc at best.

He's still quite young and if he's able to improve in those facets, than he'll be a perennial AS. Injury concerns as well as stamina and conditioning issues are major red flags that he'll just have to show he can overcome.

[ChaosHamster]

Really disappointed we couldn't keep him. Oh well. What can you do? I'm focused on what we do have going forward. Porzingis would have looked great next to Mitch.

This is what 99% were hoping for. KP and Mitch together along side with star and whoever Knicks drafts. But sadly, both parties could not find common language.

You can't play two 7-footers together in 2019, especially when one of them is a non-shooter. The Knicks would have had to choose between KP and Mitch at some point anyway. They made a decision before they ever had to make that choice, so as long as Mitch develops, we don't have to feel too bad about KP.

So KP, who played all his career at PF, and now is gonna continue playing PF. And Mitch, who is prototypical C, yes, he can't shoot, but that's definitely not a death sentence for a mobile and active C, even in 2019..

So whats the issue here?

[Clyde_Style]

I think DSJ will be the first to dunk it on KP instead of RJ. DSJ has that ridiculous vertical and nastiness to his dunking game, it'll be interesting to see what happens when/if KP meets him at the rim.

Kristaps is a very good player but he still has his deficiencies outside of what's already been well documented. He's never been a good rebounder for someone of his size and he always had issues with double teams when he played out of the post. He's not as efficient as he should be offensively and he's probably an average shooter from behind the arc at best.

He's still quite young and if he's able to improve in those facets, than he'll be a perennial AS. Injury concerns as well as stamina and conditioning issues are major red flags that he'll just have to show he can overcome.

He's actually a fairly limited player. He just has the size and enough athleticism to use it which means he gets blocks and it makes his shot hard to defend.

He is not a complete player on either end of the floor. He's mostly a black hole on offense. He's a chit passer when he should be above average at least seeing over everyone elses head. If he is not hitting his shots he drags an offense down.

He is not a great defender overall. He is sometimes plain bad when stuck on the perimeter, but that would probably be the case for many seven footers guarding threes. But since he's too weak to play Center that's his lot in life.

And he's a garbage rebounder for a man his size.

[Chanel Bomber]

This is what 99% were hoping for. KP and Mitch together along side with star and whoever Knicks drafts. But sadly, both parties could not find common language.

You can't play two 7-footers together in 2019, especially when one of them is a non-shooter. The Knicks would have had to choose between KP and Mitch at some point anyway. They made a decision before they ever had to make that choice, so as long as Mitch develops, we don't have to feel too bad about KP.

So KP, who played all his career at PF, and now is gonna continue playing PF. And Mitch, who is prototypical C, yes, he can't shoot, but that's definitely not a death sentence for a mobile and active C, even in 2019..

So whats the issue here?

KP is 7'3, he's gonna have to play center, unless you want him chasing wings on the perimeter. On offense, what advantage does having a 7'3 PF bring? He can shoot the 3? Many wings can do that too. He can post-up and shoot over smaller wings? He's not efficient at it, so why take that shot. You do lose speed and switchability by playing him at the 4 though.

KP has never reached league-average in scoring efficiency in his career (not yet at least). And that was playing PF. The only reason they played him as a 4 is because he wasn't physically strong enough to player center full-time. He's a center long-term if he's gonna be an impact player in this league.

[Oscirus]

I'll support KP and everything he's doing till next year. Next year, he needs to suck huge eggs.

[ChaosHamster]

You can't play two 7-footers together in 2019, especially when one of them is a non-shooter. The Knicks would have had to choose between KP and Mitch at some point anyway. They made a decision before they ever had to make that choice, so as long as Mitch develops, we don't have to feel too bad about KP.

So KP, who played all his career at PF, and now is gonna continue playing PF. And Mitch, who is prototypical C, yes, he can't shoot, but that's definitely not a death sentence for a mobile and active C, even in 2019..

So whats the issue here?

KP is 7'3, he's gonna have to play center, unless you want him chasing wings on the perimeter. On offense, what advantage does having a 7'3 PF bring? He can shoot the 3? Many wings can do that too. He can post-up and shoot over smaller wings? He's not efficient at it, so why take that shot. You do lose speed and switchability by playing him at the 4 though.

KP has never reached league-average in scoring efficiency in his career (not yet at least). And that was playing PF. The only reason they played him as a 4 is because he wasn't physically strong enough to player center full-time. He's a center long-term if he's gonna be an impact player in this league.

I mean, hes already an impact player at PF, so I don't really know what are you trying to say here. Or you gonna argue KP at PF isn't a good player?

[Chanel Bomber]

So KP, who played all his career at PF, and now is gonna continue playing PF. And Mitch, who is prototypical C, yes, he can't shoot, but that's definitely not a death sentence for a mobile and active C, even in 2019..

So whats the issue here?

KP is 7'3, he's gonna have to play center, unless you want him chasing wings on the perimeter. On offense, what advantage does having a 7'3 PF bring? He can shoot the 3? Many wings can do that too. He can post-up and shoot over smaller wings? He's not efficient at it, so why take that shot. You do lose speed and switchability by playing him at the 4 though.

KP has never reached league-average in scoring efficiency in his career (not yet at least). And that was playing PF. The only reason they played him as a 4 is because he wasn't physically strong enough to player center full-time. He's a center long-term if he's gonna be an impact player in this league.

I mean, hes already an impact player at PF, so I don't really know what are you trying to say here. Or you gonna argue KP at PF isn't a good player?

Is he really an impact player at PF? He hasn't played a playoff game yet, and if I remember correctly the Knicks were well below .500 when he got hurt, even after his hot stretch. He does have an impact in certain areas of the game, particularly on defense, but like the Lord KP giveth and KP taketh away with some of his deficiencies.

I think KP's a mediocre player overall right now. He's an elite rim protector and a floor spacer. He's also dynamic in transition. That alone has positive value. But he's also an inefficient scorer, a weak finisher around the rim, a largely selfish player with 0 passing skills or vision, a weak rebounder and his ability to switch onto quicker players is questionable at best. I always thought he was vastly overrated, although I do believe he can be an elite role player or perhaps a third option on a contender (meaning, he can be a winning player in this league which I mean as a compliment).

[ChaosHamster]

KP is 7'3, he's gonna have to play center, unless you want him chasing wings on the perimeter. On offense, what advantage does having a 7'3 PF bring? He can shoot the 3? Many wings can do that too. He can post-up and shoot over smaller wings? He's not efficient at it, so why take that shot. You do lose speed and switchability by playing him at the 4 though.

KP has never reached league-average in scoring efficiency in his career (not yet at least). And that was playing PF. The only reason they played him as a 4 is because he wasn't physically strong enough to player center full-time. He's a center long-term if he's gonna be an impact player in this league.

I mean, hes already an impact player at PF, so I don't really know what are you trying to say here. Or you gonna argue KP at PF isn't a good player?

Is he really an impact player at PF? He hasn't played a playoff game yet, and if I remember correctly the Knicks were well below .500 when he got hurt, even after his hot stretch. He does have an impact in certain areas of the game, particularly on defense, but like the Lord KP giveth and KP taketh away with some of his deficiencies.

I think KP's a mediocre player overall right now. He's an elite rim protector and a floor spacer. He's also dynamic in transition. That alone has positive value. But he's also an inefficient scorer, a weak finisher around the rim, a largely selfish player with 0 passing skills or vision, a weak rebounder and his ability to switch onto quicker players is questionable at best. I always thought he was vastly overrated, although I do believe he can be an elite role player or perhaps a third option on a contender (meaning, he can be a winning player in this league which I mean as a compliment).

Its fine to have an opinion. People are throwing a lot of non-sense out here relaying on their own eye-test or whatever. But its strange that you clearly know what TS% is, you've been mentioning it a couple of times to point out KP is inefficient. So its weird that you didn't look into another various advanced metrics, and just overall IMPACT metrics (BPM, PIPM) so you could've seen it for a fact, that KP is an Impact player.