seewhy wrote:Darknemo2000 wrote:seewhy wrote:
But the Chinese love and support their government, and that's why they all stand together on this HK issue.
Indeed. Just like North Koreans love Kim Jong Un. Or germans loved Hitler. You do know that propaganda can make you love anyone. I am not saying you are wrong, mind you, just that you shouldnt bring in love for legitimacy discussion because of how propaganda work these day.
The problem with you people is that when anyone loves and supports a government that's different from American style, you automatically say that's a result of propaganda. That's a very arrogant and somewhat ignorant. Again, have you even been to China to actually know it is "just like" NK and Germany pre-WW2?
Sadly I know how communism propaganda works. Was born in soviet union. Used to think that Lenin invented lightbulb and was one of the great person who helped human progress in science field only later found out that the first people that Lening and later Stalin sent to GULAG's were the same scientists, teachers and intellectuals. Strange how world works huh?
You can say oh but chine is so different from soviet union but I fail to see much difference. Yeah China started to live much better thanks to Clinton and Bush administrations efforts allowing them into WTO almost 20 years ago but I see a lot of old soviet signs.
Like 5 year plans (used to be called 'petyaletka's in soviet union) that administrative heads have to match and in order to match the number they go into great length of bribery and corruption. Same distrust in local banks which makes people invest into real estates and in order to show the growth China eagerly builds empty cities where only a few move in to live because of astronomical prices in services like water and electricity.
Same willingness to control information calling the blocked information morally corrupt western propaganda. It used to be the same in soviet union too.
I dont know, man for me China on the outside looks more shiny and has obviously much more economical power but its fundament seems to be same communistic crap as always.