China cancels NBA stuff / Silver issues statement (pg1) /Ongoing discussion...

[tyguy]

Wait, wasn't it the GOP that admitted they had a policy of obstructing anything Obama tried to do?

Wait, wasn't it the GOP that complained about the deficit and how weak Obama was towards Russia?

Wait, wasn't it the GOP that complained about decency and tried to get Clinton impeached because he got a blow job. 20 years later Trump pays hush money to a stripper and the GOP keep its mouth shut

I've never seen such hypocrisy from the right.

I would like Trump to be President and do his job, but the dude is the most thin-skinned person I've ever seen. Instead of complaining about what the media and anyone who criticizes him everyday, he should do his damn job.

The irony is clear here.

Arguing with cult members is a waste of time, save your energy on educating the young.

Nice ad hominem.

[DonaldSanders]

Arguing with cult members is a waste of time, save your energy on educating the young.

Nice ad hominem.

It's not an insult, avid Trump supporters (not the "I vote republican" folks) have nearly identical psychology to people that are in cults. Facts hurt feelings sometimes though, so I can see why the cult members think they're being insulted.

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Yes. It is a personal attack. No more personal attacks on other users just because they have a different political leaning. Thank you

[Buzzard]

Everyone is stepping back. If they speak in favor of China, the NBA and Players may lose a big part of the free market. If they speak out against China, they lose China. They will probably bow out of the games and come up with their damage control strategy once things simmer down.

This much is for certain, the next time a bunch of players and owners acts indignant about a social issue, I am going to call them all hypocrites. If not here, then at least in my mind and with my friends. Millionaire hypocrites, why am I surprised?

[peja_the_legend]

Has Daryl Morey ever tweeted about the situation in Palestine,the concerned activist he is?

[MrDollarBills]

Everyone is stepping back. If they speak in favor of China, the NBA and Players may lose a big part of the free market. If they speak out against China, they lose China. They will probably bow out of the games and come up with their damage control strategy once things simmer down.

This much is for certain, the next time a bunch of players and owners acts indignant about a social issue, I am going to call them all bigots. If not here, then at least in my mind and with my friends. Millionaire bigots, why am I surprised?

...you mean hypocrites, right?

And it's far easier for Americans to sound off about homegrown social issues than foreign ones. But yeah, carry on I guess.

[tyguy]

Arguing with cult members is a waste of time, save your energy on educating the young.

Nice ad hominem.

It's not an insult, avid Trump supporters (not the "I vote republican" folks) have nearly identical psychology to people that are in cults. Facts hurt feelings sometimes though, so I can see why the cult members think they're being insulted.

Yeah, it's pretty easy to win arguments when you paint people with opposing views as morons, cultists, or something else unsavory. Why use logic and facts when you can make sweeping generalizations to make them look bad?

[Paradise]

Has Daryl Morey ever tweeted about the situation in Palestine,the concerned activist he is?

Hasn’t even talked about domesticated social issues in his own state of Texas.

He should be fired independently of this but unfortunately, firing him makes the league and Rockets ownership look like they are bowing down to China. Ultimately, he deserves to fired still.

[Buzzard]

Everyone is stepping back. If they speak in favor of China, the NBA and Players may lose a big part of the free market. If they speak out against China, they lose China. They will probably bow out of the games and come up with their damage control strategy once things simmer down.

This much is for certain, the next time a bunch of players and owners acts indignant about a social issue, I am going to call them all bigots. If not here, then at least in my mind and with my friends. Millionaire bigots, why am I surprised?

...you mean hypocrites, right?

And it's far easier for Americans to sound off about homegrown social issues than foreign ones. But yeah, carry on I guess.

I fixed it. Well sounding off on a team owner being called a owner is not exactly in the same context as sounding off on real slave labor; while making millions off of both.

[seccom]

they've been doing this for years, unreported in the mainstream media. NBA knew this was happening and they were still expanding in China.

HK get attention because HK still has a free press and most important, uncensored internet.

The Uighurs could not get their messages out of the CCP's firewall. I am not sure what we can do about it.

what are you talking about? Twitter has been reporting on Xinjiand and the Uyghurs for years, independent media like Grayzone and Intercept have reported it on multiple times:

https://theintercept.com/2018/08/13/china-muslims-uighur-detention/

https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/

please tell me why these independent outlets were able to report on it but not CNN/Fox/MSNBC? it has nothing to do with censorship. the information is there. it's all over Twitter. these mainstream news outlets just CHOOSE not to report on them.

I understand your point. But mainstream like CNN, NBC cannot send their own to fact check. Hong Kong's protests are live streaming to the world, for all to see if they want. The amount of information is massive. There were so little information on inland China, both Uighurs and Tibetians.

I support both Independence movements, CCP is amongst the worst government, but they controlled some much information, just got a simple video out is NOT easy at all.

[MrDollarBills]

Everyone is stepping back. If they speak in favor of China, the NBA and Players may lose a big part of the free market. If they speak out against China, they lose China. They will probably bow out of the games and come up with their damage control strategy once things simmer down.

This much is for certain, the next time a bunch of players and owners acts indignant about a social issue, I am going to call them all bigots. If not here, then at least in my mind and with my friends. Millionaire bigots, why am I surprised?

...you mean hypocrites, right?

And it's far easier for Americans to sound off about homegrown social issues than foreign ones. But yeah, carry on I guess.

I fixed it. Well sounding off on a team owner being called a owner is not exactly in the same context as sounding off on real slave labor; while making millions off of both.

I don't really get why people are mad that the NBA made a collective decision to refer to the owners as governors? This was the NBA who agreed to it, all 30 teams decided it.

[Buzzard]

...you mean hypocrites, right?

And it's far easier for Americans to sound off about homegrown social issues than foreign ones. But yeah, carry on I guess.

I fixed it. Well sounding off on a team owner being called a owner is not exactly in the same context as sounding off on real slave labor; while making millions off of both.

I don't really get why people are mad that the NBA made a collective decision to refer to the owners as governors? This was the NBA who agreed to it, all 30 teams decided it.

I am not mad about it. In the grand scheme of things it shows how much the NBA and the Players want to paint themselves as being progressive. Around the Horn just gave a great example of the hypocrisy of the league and its players. They pulled the All Star game out of Charlotte due to what they saw as a unfair law; yet play in China every year. You tell me where their bread is buttered more, transgendered bias Charlotte NC or slave labor camps mainland China.

[xdrta+]

So may Trumpies here, answer this. Is this a phony Democratic scheme too? From yesterday's New York Times:

the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed on Tuesday that Russian operatives engaged in a widespread social media campaign to improve his chances in the race.

In a report, the committee backed up the conclusions of the intelligence community, the special counsel and researchers that Russia mounted a broad campaign to interfere in the election. A Russian troll farm central to the election campaign supported “Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin,” the committee said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/business/senate-report-russia-election.html

Read the whole story and deal with some facts for a change.

[MrDollarBills]

I fixed it. Well sounding off on a team owner being called a owner is not exactly in the same context as sounding off on real slave labor; while making millions off of both.

I don't really get why people are mad that the NBA made a collective decision to refer to the owners as governors? This was the NBA who agreed to it, all 30 teams decided it.

I am not mad about it. In the grand scheme of things it shows how much the NBA and the Players want to paint themselves as being progressive. Around the Horn just gave a great example of the hypocrisy of the league and its players. They pulled the All Star game out of Charlotte due to what they saw as a unfair law; yet play in China every year. You tell me where their bread is buttered more, transgendered bias Charlotte NC or slave labor camps mainland China.

That's a very fair point.

The only counter I can offer to that is that the players/coaches who speak out do so on homegrown social issues that they directly see. For instance, we don't really hear NBA players going off about The West Bank, but they will speak out about police brutality in the US because they come from communities where this is real and it's personal to them.

Me personally, I knew very little about the HK protests outside of knowing that it was in reaction to extradition laws that were proposed. I can't imagine that I'm not the only American who is ignorant about the overall scope of the matter.

[spikeslovechild]

So may Trumpies here, answer this. Is this a phony Democratic scheme too? From yesterday's New York Times:

the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed on Tuesday that Russian operatives engaged in a widespread social media campaign to improve his chances in the race.

In a report, the committee backed up the conclusions of the intelligence community, the special counsel and researchers that Russia mounted a broad campaign to interfere in the election. A Russian troll farm central to the election campaign supported “Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin,” the committee said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/business/senate-report-russia-election.html

Read the whole story and deal with some facts for a change.

WTF does this have to do with the protests in Hong Kong? Oh and I'd rather get a colonoscopy then read anything from that rag the NYT

[Blazers-1977]

Again stop talking about Trump , the Dems or GOP on here . This is not the forum for that .


There are so many political forums in the internet like

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php

That’s a place where you can talk about politics . This forum is for us to talk about sports and news that affect our sports leagues

[Buzzard]

I don't really get why people are mad that the NBA made a collective decision to refer to the owners as governors? This was the NBA who agreed to it, all 30 teams decided it.

I am not mad about it. In the grand scheme of things it shows how much the NBA and the Players want to paint themselves as being progressive. Around the Horn just gave a great example of the hypocrisy of the league and its players. They pulled the All Star game out of Charlotte due to what they saw as a unfair law; yet play in China every year. You tell me where their bread is buttered more, transgendered bias Charlotte NC or slave labor camps mainland China.

That's a very fair point.

The only counter I can offer to that is that the players/coaches who speak out do so on homegrown social issues that they directly see. For instance, we don't really hear NBA players going off about The West Bank, but they will speak out about police brutality in the US because they come from communities where this is real and it's personal to them.

Me personally, I knew very little about the HK protests outside of knowing that it was in reaction to extradition laws that were proposed. I can't imagine that I'm not the only American who is ignorant about the overall scope of the matter.

I remember the Wall Mart protest over goods being made in camps and it eventually blew over. The NBA needs to get out and let this blow over. Its a small black eye for now; the longer it stays in the news the bigger the black eye is going to become.

[seewhy]

I don't really get why people are mad that the NBA made a collective decision to refer to the owners as governors? This was the NBA who agreed to it, all 30 teams decided it.

I am not mad about it. In the grand scheme of things it shows how much the NBA and the Players want to paint themselves as being progressive. Around the Horn just gave a great example of the hypocrisy of the league and its players. They pulled the All Star game out of Charlotte due to what they saw as a unfair law; yet play in China every year. You tell me where their bread is buttered more, transgendered bias Charlotte NC or slave labor camps mainland China.

That's a very fair point.

The only counter I can offer to that is that the players/coaches who speak out do so on homegrown social issues that they directly see. For instance, we don't really hear NBA players going off about The West Bank, but they will speak out about police brutality in the US because they come from communities where this is real and it's personal to them.

Me personally, I knew very little about the HK protests outside of knowing that it was in reaction to extradition laws that were proposed. I can't imagine that I'm not the only American who is ignorant about the overall scope of the matter.

Well companies have corporate responsibilities, but those responsibilities can change depending on the country they are operating in. But in general, they have to comply with local laws and their customer's ethical standard.

So in Charlotte, NBA needs to see what is generally acceptable in the US and act accordingly. When they conduct business in China, it makes more sense for them to follow the law there and what's acceptable by the Chinese customers.

The problem is too many American don't agree with Chinese law and Chinese's views and perspective. But still it doesn't give American the right to determine what China should or should not do in their country or blame NBA for operating under Chinese rules in business deals with China.

[GusT15]

What is Steve kerrs and Pops opinion on this matter? Why are they so quiet? What about LeBron? Isn’t he the one who said he wouldn’t shut up and dribble. Why is he shutting up and dribbling when it comes to China?

Steve Kerr and pop have a big opinion on anything trump related but money talks and money is telling them to shut up and coach. Such hypocrites


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This. Though, it's expected from Lebron who is the biggest front runner there ever is. Of course he would stfu and bend his ass over for China.

I believe Pop spoke on the matter yesterday btw. He supported Silver’s statement.

Watch on YouTube

[Buzzard]

I am not mad about it. In the grand scheme of things it shows how much the NBA and the Players want to paint themselves as being progressive. Around the Horn just gave a great example of the hypocrisy of the league and its players. They pulled the All Star game out of Charlotte due to what they saw as a unfair law; yet play in China every year. You tell me where their bread is buttered more, transgendered bias Charlotte NC or slave labor camps mainland China.

That's a very fair point.

The only counter I can offer to that is that the players/coaches who speak out do so on homegrown social issues that they directly see. For instance, we don't really hear NBA players going off about The West Bank, but they will speak out about police brutality in the US because they come from communities where this is real and it's personal to them.

Me personally, I knew very little about the HK protests outside of knowing that it was in reaction to extradition laws that were proposed. I can't imagine that I'm not the only American who is ignorant about the overall scope of the matter.

The problem is too many American don't agree with Chinese law and Chinese's views and perspective. But still it doesn't give American the right to determine what China should or should not do in their country or blame NBA for operating under Chinese rules in business deals with China.

But Americans and the free market in general have the right to be critical of both; and that is what Morey did. Just like many Americans boycotted Walmart years ago, the NBA could face a similar backlash. This much I know, there is not one NBA star who wants to be seen as supportive of a repressive regime. This is getting close to that in my opinion.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Again stop talking about Trump , the Dems or GOP on here . This is not the forum for that .


There are so many political forums in the internet like

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php

That’s a place where you can talk about politics . This forum is for us to talk about sports and news that affect our sports leagues

Nah.