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tiderulz wrote:
but but but, he cant shoot.....
he is still young enough and developing that even if he isnt a good outside shooter right now(and probably isnt that great) he has time to improve it
PrimeThyme wrote:
It's understandable losing an inch or so without shoes, but some of these players are literally losing 3 plus inches
MagicFrenchie wrote:
Lol those were all easy layups with close to non existent defense , against the crappy C Bulls team
I'm not hating but I'm really not impressed by this guy , good interior defense and he's done , and I'm questioning myself about his longevity. Can't puch too much emphasiz on physicality .
Xatticus wrote:MagicFrenchie wrote:
Lol those were all easy layups with close to non existent defense , against the crappy C Bulls team
I'm not hating but I'm really not impressed by this guy , good interior defense and he's done , and I'm questioning myself about his longevity. Can't puch too much emphasiz on physicality .
Yeah... I don't know what more evidence there needs to be at this point. He gets those easy layups because he has the skills to get to those spots and the body control and touch to finish them. He just doesn't fit into any conventional category. He can't shoot. I'm not sure he ever will be able to, but he is going to post some of the most gaudy eFG and TS percentages in the league. The closest comp you are going to find is Barkley, but Barkley didn't have the tools that Williamson does.
I would be so excited right now if I were a fan of the Pelicans. They are so young and talented and they have enough quality veterans interspersed to give them a legitimate shot at the playoffs. To get here from where they were at the end of last season is astounding. They had a terrific summer.
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
pepe1991 wrote:Xatticus wrote:MagicFrenchie wrote:
Lol those were all easy layups with close to non existent defense , against the crappy C Bulls team
I'm not hating but I'm really not impressed by this guy , good interior defense and he's done , and I'm questioning myself about his longevity. Can't puch too much emphasiz on physicality .
Yeah... I don't know what more evidence there needs to be at this point. He gets those easy layups because he has the skills to get to those spots and the body control and touch to finish them. He just doesn't fit into any conventional category. He can't shoot. I'm not sure he ever will be able to, but he is going to post some of the most gaudy eFG and TS percentages in the league. The closest comp you are going to find is Barkley, but Barkley didn't have the tools that Williamson does.
I would be so excited right now if I were a fan of the Pelicans. They are so young and talented and they have enough quality veterans interspersed to give them a legitimate shot at the playoffs. To get here from where they were at the end of last season is astounding. They had a terrific summer.
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
I'm just not sold on Ingram and Lonzo for fits next to him. Lonzo does pass well, but that jumpshot is so bad. Ingram also passes better than shoots.
Maybe NAW will be starter before even he hoped.
Xatticus wrote:
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
ezzzp wrote:Xatticus wrote:
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
...that was after Chicago pulled their key rotation guys and played lineups mostly composed of their fringe NBA guys
MagicStarwipe wrote:Watching the Pels the last couple of games and Ingram is reminding me of Melo but without the talent. Big time ball stopper with tunnel vision so far.
Bensational wrote:ezzzp wrote:Xatticus wrote:
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
...that was after Chicago pulled their key rotation guys and played lineups mostly composed of their fringe NBA guys
Thad Young, Dunn, White, Valentine, Felicio and Arcidiano all played big minutes over that span. Apart from White (rookie) they're all NBA rotation calibre guys.
Not sure why you can't give the kid credit.
like: 2nd round (38th pick) rookie Daniel Gafford...undrafted camp invitees Adam Mokoka and Justin Simon...2018-19 3d string center on a 22 win team Christian Felicio... ezzzp wrote:Bensational wrote:ezzzp wrote:
...that was after Chicago pulled their key rotation guys and played lineups mostly composed of their fringe NBA guys
Thad Young, Dunn, White, Valentine, Felicio and Arcidiano all played big minutes over that span. Apart from White (rookie) they're all NBA rotation calibre guys.
Not sure why you can't give the kid credit.
"NBA Rotation Players"
Dunn and Arcidiano are only rotation guys on a 22 win team...and that's only for now.
FYI Valentine was literally playing his second game since April 2018 after sitting out with injury...he was ok when healthy but even then he was a back up on tank team...same squad where Jerian Grant was starting PG for 26 games and played 1700 minutes.
Also, Thad Young only played first 4 minutes of 4Q and when he got subbed out Bulls had a 13 pt lead.
Not sure why you keep trying to over value garbage time stardom.
Bensational wrote:ezzzp wrote:Bensational wrote:
Thad Young, Dunn, White, Valentine, Felicio and Arcidiano all played big minutes over that span. Apart from White (rookie) they're all NBA rotation calibre guys.
Not sure why you can't give the kid credit.
"NBA Rotation Players"
Dunn and Arcidiano are only rotation guys on a 22 win team...and that's only for now.
FYI Valentine was literally playing his second game since April 2018 after sitting out with injury...he was ok when healthy but even then he was a back up on tank team...same squad where Jerian Grant was starting PG for 26 games and played 1700 minutes.
Also, Thad Young only played first 4 minutes of 4Q and when he got subbed out Bulls had a 13 pt lead.
Not sure why you keep trying to over value garbage time stardom.
Lol. Keep trying.
Bensational wrote:ezzzp wrote:Xatticus wrote:
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
...that was after Chicago pulled their key rotation guys and played lineups mostly composed of their fringe NBA guys
Thad Young, Dunn, White, Valentine, Felicio and Arcidiano all played big minutes over that span. Apart from White (rookie) they're all NBA rotation calibre guys.
Not sure why you can't give the kid credit.
Bensational wrote:ezzzp wrote:Xatticus wrote:
Oh... and NAW led a 23-point comeback in their win last night.
...that was after Chicago pulled their key rotation guys and played lineups mostly composed of their fringe NBA guys
Thad Young, Dunn, White, Valentine, Felicio and Arcidiano all played big minutes over that span. Apart from White (rookie) they're all NBA rotation calibre guys.
Not sure why you can't give the kid credit.
pepe1991 wrote:Porter looked fine in garbage time.
Anfernee Simons looks fine. Will be hard for him to get any PT for Blazers but you never know.
Curry was ridicilous, 40 points in 25 min last night.
Culver looks really good too. Minnesota should be better.pepe1991 wrote:Porter looked fine in garbage time.
Anfernee Simons looks fine. Will be hard for him to get any PT for Blazers but you never know.
Curry was ridicilous, 40 points in 25 min last night.
pepe1991 wrote:MagicStarwipe wrote:Watching the Pels the last couple of games and Ingram is reminding me of Melo but without the talent. Big time ball stopper with tunnel vision so far.
When he was hyped i compared him to Michael Beasley, ofc got lot of heat for it...
He has some talent to be really good passer, he even played PG for a bit two years ago, he also had streaches last year where he averaged 21 points ,6 rebounds, 3 assist on 50%-39%-75% but he is still built like a tootpick and does not have reliable 3 point shot.
I can see him developing into good player, but also i can imagine him never becomming much better than he is right now.
Player to keep eye on, but imo Zion's talent, along with guys like JJ Redick, Jrue Holiday, even NAW, will simply overshadow him because they are much better fits to Zion than him.
magicman112 wrote:pepe1991 wrote:MagicStarwipe wrote:Watching the Pels the last couple of games and Ingram is reminding me of Melo but without the talent. Big time ball stopper with tunnel vision so far.
When he was hyped i compared him to Michael Beasley, ofc got lot of heat for it...
He has some talent to be really good passer, he even played PG for a bit two years ago, he also had streaches last year where he averaged 21 points ,6 rebounds, 3 assist on 50%-39%-75% but he is still built like a tootpick and does not have reliable 3 point shot.
I can see him developing into good player, but also i can imagine him never becomming much better than he is right now.
Player to keep eye on, but imo Zion's talent, along with guys like JJ Redick, Jrue Holiday, even NAW, will simply overshadow him because they are much better fits to Zion than him.
Yeah looks to be one of those guys that has the talent and ability to be a great player but just won't get there. Kind of like Billy Owens if anyone knows who he is. He was much like Ingram versatile talent but just never had the drive to be a great player.
