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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#281 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:43 pm

Asif16 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL, if this year's Celtics make it to the EC finals it won't be Tacko who gets them there. It will be Tatum, Brown Hayward, Walker and Smart.


So in other words they're not making the ECF


What team other than the Clippers has a better group of wings than that? The Celtics will put the concept of "positionless basketball" to the test.
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#282 » by L3GEND4RY » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:43 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CoP wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Morris:
37.5% from three
146 three pointers made

Horford:
36.0% from three (42.9% the year prior)
203 three pointers made

Baynes:
34.5% from three
61 three pointers made

Kanter, Theis, and porier have made a combined 121 threes for the entire career.... and when i say career i mean not just NBA but college, theis' 6 years overseason, and poriers times overseas. So this notion that morris didnt spead the floor or that its not a dimension that was lost is absurd

Hey buddy, I know you're down on the Cs. Since the OP is apparently scared, do you want to do a sig bet for fun? Any one of the following:

- If Celtics end up the 8th seed or worse, you win; 1-7 seed and I win
- If Celtics are ranked 16-30 in ppg allowed at the end of the season, you win; if they're 1-15, I win
- If the Nets finish with a better record than the Celtics, you win; if the Celtics finish with the better record, I win (same record = no one wins)

You can pick any one of those three. Winner gives the loser their sig for one month following the end of the regular season. Whadya say pal?



i already have sig bets outstanding. im fine putting money on it if you are ok using the betting sites


PM me if you’re still considering. Will gladly do the latter.
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#283 » by RHODEY » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:46 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL, if this year's Celtics make it to the EC finals it won't be Tacko who gets them there. It will be Tatum, Brown Hayward, Walker and Smart.


So in other words they're not making the ECF


What team other than the Clippers has a better group of wings than that? The Celtics will put the concept of "positionless basketball" to the test.

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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#284 » by Van_Trump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:48 pm

On Dec 15:

Celtics trade: Kemba Walker, Gordon Hayward

Thunder trade: Steve Adams, Chris Paul, (plus a couple of first round picks; it is rumored they have a couple of spares)
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#285 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:00 pm

Van_Trump wrote:On Dec 15:

Celtics trade: Kemba Walker, Gordon Hayward

Thunder trade: Steve Adams, Chris Paul, (plus a couple of first round picks; it is rumored they have a couple of spares)


If Chris Paul wasn't so abrasive towards his teammates, I'd actually love this deal. Unfortunately, the guy has left his last 2 teams with teammates disliking him.
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#286 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:38 pm

The Thunder would have to throw in SGA along with picks to make Ainge take on those two terrible contracts.
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Post#287 » by sixers_simmons » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:The Thunder would have to throw in SGA along with picks to make Ainge take on those two terrible contracts.


That entire deal is a swap of terrible contracts
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#288 » by yeahM8 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:44 pm

Wow yuk
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Post#289 » by ITYSL » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:48 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CoP wrote:
Prokorov wrote:

i already have sig bets outstanding. im fine putting money on it if you are ok using the betting sites

I'd rather not bet with people I don't really know. How about we do a sig bet about one of those items at the All-Star break instead of end of season? That way any outstanding sig bets you have won't be affected.



that works for me

ill triple down. if any of the 3 happen you win. i need all 3 to happen to win

Sounds good, confirmed. Good luck, this shoild be a fun season to watch no matter what
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#290 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:59 pm

Hayward can opt out at the end of this year, and there's only one year after that. And Kemba is 5 years younger than CP3. Let's stop this silliness about which contracts are more terrible.

In any event, this deal isn't happening. No team is bailing out OKC at this point. Trust the process.
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Post#291 » by AussieCeltic » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:50 pm

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AussieCeltic wrote:
LloydFree wrote:B.S.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2014_ratings.html

All of this started in the tank year of 2013-14 (the Wiggins draft). The Bucks, 76ers, Lakers, Magic and Celtics were all starting rebuilds at the same time. And 5 years later the Celtics are behind all but the Magic. And even that is debatable right now.


If we're going by you're logic that the rebuilds started the 2013/2014 season, then lets compare records since then.

Celtics: 270 wins 222 losses - Playoffs 5 out of 6 years. Conference finals twice. Conference semi's one
Bucks: 243W/257L- Playoffs 4 out of 6 years. Conference finals once
Orlando: 179W/313L - First round once
Philly: 178W/314L - Playoffs 2 our 6 years. Eastern conference semi's both times
Lakers: 163W/329L - 0 playoff appearances

Now you can speculate once going to happen in the future all you want. But I know looking at that, the Celtics have been in much better position since 2013/2014 season. Go back 10 years and those numbers look better.

The Celtics still have a good young core who has made a great run in the playoffs with plenty of assets if they want to use them.


This is a poor way of looking at rebuilds. Each one is different. How you do during the rebuilding process isn't relevant. It's all about accumulating star players.


Of course every rebuild is different but the ultimate goal is to win basketball games not accumulate star players.

At the end of the day, over that time period, the Celtics have won more basketball games and got further into the playoffs more consistently than any of the other teams mentioned. To me, that means they've been more successful
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Post#292 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:29 pm

Watching the Celtics tonight, I cant help but think that theyre missing Marcus Morris’ defense...
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Post#293 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:06 am

Celtics getting exposed by Orlando’s big lineup on the road tonight. Celtics 62 Orlando 34 at the half.
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#294 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:07 am

LloydFree wrote:
bisme37 wrote:I legit have no idea what this thread is about. We've played one preseason game and won it. And I'd be surprised if more than 5 non-celtics fans on here even watched the game. This is just a random, general "feel good" thread for Celtic haters I guess?

You know exactly what it's about. You saw the game, and you saw the Charlotte Guards, running past Kanter like a traffic cone. That's what the OP is saying.


So does this Orlando game now mean that they have the best defense? Or perhaps its best to not overreact to preseason games?
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#295 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:09 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
bisme37 wrote:I legit have no idea what this thread is about. We've played one preseason game and won it. And I'd be surprised if more than 5 non-celtics fans on here even watched the game. This is just a random, general "feel good" thread for Celtic haters I guess?

You know exactly what it's about. You saw the game, and you saw the Charlotte Guards, running past Kanter like a traffic cone. That's what the OP is saying.


So does this Orlando game now mean that they have the best defense? Or perhaps its best to not overreact to preseason games?


Best defense. We should always base our assessments on single game samples, whether it be summer league, preseason, RS, PS or of course Drew league.
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#296 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:15 am

I'm sure the Magic will come back in the second half when the Celtics put in the Maine Red Claws.
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Post#297 » by itrsteve » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:16 am

LloydFree wrote:
All of this started in the tank year of 2013-14 (the Wiggins draft). The Bucks, 76ers, Lakers, Magic and Celtics were all starting rebuilds at the same time. And 5 years later the Celtics are behind all but the Magic. And even that is debatable right now.


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[quote=“dkb964”]156-1 Celtics are frauds when pressure is put on them. They would have been toast if Luka was not stupid enough to foul himself out. Enjoy this ONE finals win. There will never be another with the Js and the Celtics cant afford stacked team.[/quote]
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Post#298 » by AussieCeltic » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:56 am

Time for a “Magic exposed?” Thread
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Post#299 » by itrsteve » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:57 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Time for a “Magic exposed?” Thread


No, because that or any other exposed would be petty and utterly worthless.
[quote=“dkb964”]156-1 Celtics are frauds when pressure is put on them. They would have been toast if Luka was not stupid enough to foul himself out. Enjoy this ONE finals win. There will never be another with the Js and the Celtics cant afford stacked team.[/quote]
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Re: Celtics exposed? 

Post#300 » by TheRealKaboom » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:19 am

AussieCeltic wrote:
Snotbubbles wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
If we're going by you're logic that the rebuilds started the 2013/2014 season, then lets compare records since then.

Celtics: 270 wins 222 losses - Playoffs 5 out of 6 years. Conference finals twice. Conference semi's one
Bucks: 243W/257L- Playoffs 4 out of 6 years. Conference finals once
Orlando: 179W/313L - First round once
Philly: 178W/314L - Playoffs 2 our 6 years. Eastern conference semi's both times
Lakers: 163W/329L - 0 playoff appearances

Now you can speculate once going to happen in the future all you want. But I know looking at that, the Celtics have been in much better position since 2013/2014 season. Go back 10 years and those numbers look better.

The Celtics still have a good young core who has made a great run in the playoffs with plenty of assets if they want to use them.


This is a poor way of looking at rebuilds. Each one is different. How you do during the rebuilding process isn't relevant. It's all about accumulating star players.


Of course every rebuild is different but the ultimate goal is to win basketball games not accumulate star players.

At the end of the day, over that time period, the Celtics have won more basketball games and got further into the playoffs more consistently than any of the other teams mentioned. To me, that means they've been more successful
Wrong. The ultimate goal is to win championships, not basketball games. You do that by acquiring star players.

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