Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft?

King Ken · Post #81 » by **King Ken** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:04 am

clyde21 wrote:we should start talking about NAW in this thread, man is this guy good...the improvement the last few months is incredible

Agreed. Jaxson had a couple of great finishes over Gobert

clyde21 · Post #82 » by **clyde21** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:18 am

King Ken wrote:
clyde21 wrote:we should start talking about NAW in this thread, man is this guy good...the improvement the last few months is incredible

Agreed. Jaxson had a couple of great finishes over Gobert

yea, he had 2 in a row, his hands are nice and has actually developed some post moves, not quite just the lob guy people thought

King Ken · Post #83 » by **King Ken** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:01 am

clyde21 wrote:
King Ken wrote:
clyde21 wrote:we should start talking about NAW in this thread, man is this guy good...the improvement the last few months is incredible

Agreed. Jaxson had a couple of great finishes over Gobert

yea, he had 2 in a row, his hands are nice and has actually developed some post moves, not quite just the lob guy people thought

I don't think people realize how high his ceiling is. He even chased down some rebounds and boxed out well which are things he didn't always do in Austin. His floor may be very low but his ceiling is sky-high. Griffin might have made some mistakes with Cleveland but hasn't with NO.

Nazrmohamed · Post #84 » by **Nazrmohamed** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:57 pm

I'm gonna say Rui Hachimura, assuming it hasnt been said already

clyde21 · Post #85 » by **clyde21** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:25 am

Herro.

nolang1 · Post #86 » by **nolang1** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:20 am

I think Herro will come back down to earth a bit once teams actually scout him and realize he's right-hand dominant, but he's already shooting well enough from NBA range that I definitely missed the boat on him. Yet another case of Calipari's offense hiding a player's talents.

sipclip · Post #87 » by **sipclip** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:38 am

This draft will have a ton to choose from. Right now my favorite is NAW. His game is so smooth and well rounded it reminds me a lot of Brandon Roy.

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King Ken · Post #88 » by **King Ken** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:13 am

Cam has to hit open and wide open shots. He is averaging five per game in the preseason. That's an insane amount especially in the preseason and shooting them horrendously I should add.

We know he is a bad contested shooter but this is what you are great at. Open shots and playing in space. Get it together kid. Trae shot poorly last year at times but he was rarely open. He was taking difficult shots which leads me to Tyler Herro..

That boy can shoot. He doesn't need room either. He was heavily contested and still making them. He is a tough cover. I've seen nothing like him before as a rookie. Steph could get himself clean and easy looks. Everything Herro gets is hard and makes it look easy

clyde21 · Post #89 » by **clyde21** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:15 am

King Ken wrote:Cam has to hit open and wide open shots. He is averaging five per game in the preseason. That's an insane amount especially in the preseason and shooting them horrendously I should add.

We know he is a bad contested shooter but this is what you are great at. Open shots and playing in space. Get it together kid. Trae shot poorly last year at times but he was rarely open. He was taking difficult shots which leads me to Tyler Herro..

That boy can shoot. He doesn't need room either. He was heavily contested and still making them. He is a tough cover. I've seen nothing like him before as a rookie. Steph could get himself clean and easy looks. Everything Herro gets is hard and makes it look easy

until Cam fixes/strengthens his core he won't be able to do much, he has trouble getting square, his base is weak, which means he's always be inconsistent shooting the ball and will have trouble finishing, he has no balance whatsoever...

his #1 priority is working on his core strength, really shouldn't see the court until that improves.

compare that to Herro...just absolutely incredible balance on his shots...he's already an elite level shooter, and I don't mean spot up shooter I mean shooter shooter.

clyde21 · Post #90 » by **clyde21** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:17 am

Brandon Clarke went off tonight, another name to throw in a the sleeper hat

mattg · Post #91 » by **mattg** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:18 am

clyde21 wrote:Herro.

you were the only other person all in since the beginning.

rate_ · Post #92 » by **rate_** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:21 am

rookie Herro
SL: 6 games | 19/4/4 | 55% TS | 25.0 PER | +79
preseason: 3 games | 16/5/3 | 70% TS | 28.7 PER | +68

King Ken · Post #93 » by **King Ken** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:28 am

clyde21 wrote:
King Ken wrote:Cam has to hit open and wide open shots. He is averaging five per game in the preseason. That's an insane amount especially in the preseason and shooting them horrendously I should add.

We know he is a bad contested shooter but this is what you are great at. Open shots and playing in space. Get it together kid. Trae shot poorly last year at times but he was rarely open. He was taking difficult shots which leads me to Tyler Herro..

That boy can shoot. He doesn't need room either. He was heavily contested and still making them. He is a tough cover. I've seen nothing like him before as a rookie. Steph could get himself clean and easy looks. Everything Herro gets is hard and makes it look easy

until Cam fixes/strengthens his core he won't be able to do much, he has trouble getting square, his base is weak, which means he's always be inconsistent shooting the ball and will have trouble finishing, he has no balance whatsoever...

his #1 priority is working on his core strength, really shouldn't see the court until that improves.

compare that to Herro...just absolutely incredible balance on his shots...he's already an elite level shooter, and I don't mean spot up shooter I mean shooter shooter.

I agree. You can see it too. Herro always able to angle himself just right with no room or with some. Cam has a flexible release and elite footwork but if you wide open you don't even need that. You just need to square up and let it fly. He shot 41% on open C&S at Duke on elite volume. My guess is with the NBA range, he needs more strength in the line of action that is the NBA game. He could shoot nba range 3s 1v0 but in the NBA where you gotta defend, run the court, make decisions, I can see how that can become an issue.

His defense is already pretty darn good for a rookie. He should see the floor regardless for our squad but his offense is just not effective if you can't make open shots. It's nice that he gets open and he finds space but he has to finish the play. He looks like Riley Freeman out there.

I still see the same balance issues in traffic I saw at Duke. It's better than it was when he was hurt after the UNC game but its the same as it was in January. He lost the ball one time on a dribble drive when he got to the paint. It's clear, core exercises will be critical for him. I don't know why his balance issues don't negatively impact his defense though. Maybe it's just with the ball. I even seen it when he played at Westtown.

I agree about Herro too. His shooting is elite. He is not normal. He doesn't even need his high end variance as much. You have to be an elite defender to keep him from shooting. Miami runs those D. Wade plays for him too and it's hard to defend him using those screens. Miami is so big and athletic with Bam starting at the 4 and Leonard at the 5

clyde21 · Post #94 » by **clyde21** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:17 am

i can watch this dude shoot all day

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No-Man · Post #95 » by **No-Man** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:49 am

mattg wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Herro.

you were the only other person all in since the beginning.

I mean, I was the only one who had him top3 (tier for 3rd with Goga behind Zion and Clarke)

mattg · Post #96 » by **mattg** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:51 pm

Fischella wrote:
mattg wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Herro.

you were the only other person all in since the beginning.

I mean, I was the only one who had him top3 (tier for 3rd with Goga behind Zion and Clarke)

I’ll give you credit, you came around leading up to the draft and put yourself out there, and you were correct. I was more referring since the beginning of the year and during, when everyone was trashing him or literally not understanding what they were watching and Clyde was the only person who would back my posts or whatnot.

Stillwater · Post #97 » by **Stillwater** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:50 pm

Herro took a hit for his trex arms for sure, but I don't think anyone questioned he could be a summer league and pre season all star with that shooting ability. Lets unlock the padded cell prisoners and see how he does when it counts before going ape **** about a couple nice outings.

clyde21 · Post #98 » by **clyde21** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:18 pm

Stillwater wrote:Herro took a hit for his trex arms for sure, but I don't think anyone questioned he could be a summer league and pre season all star with that shooting ability. Lets unlock the padded cell prisoners and see how he does when it counts before going ape **** about a couple nice outings.

nah, you had people here legit saying he was 'undraftable' and no a '1AD' player...

Stillwater · Post #99 » by **Stillwater** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:04 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Herro took a hit for his trex arms for sure, but I don't think anyone questioned he could be a summer league and pre season all star with that shooting ability. Lets unlock the padded cell prisoners and see how he does when it counts before going ape **** about a couple nice outings.

nah, you had people here legit saying he was 'undraftable' and no a '1AD' player...

that's a different story. he can shoot it he can cut and his court vision is underrated , but for where he was picked I think it was about right not steal range. I mean maybe compared to Reddish who should of went 60th lol

King Ken · Post #100 » by **King Ken** » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:06 pm

Stillwater wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Herro took a hit for his trex arms for sure, but I don't think anyone questioned he could be a summer league and pre season all star with that shooting ability. Lets unlock the padded cell prisoners and see how he does when it counts before going ape **** about a couple nice outings.

nah, you had people here legit saying he was 'undraftable' and no a '1AD' player...

that's a different story. he can shoot it he can cut and his court vision is underrated , but for where he was picked I think it was about right not steal range. I mean maybe compared to Reddish who should of went 60th lol

You took this path with Trae Young and nearly died on the ledge. You want to jump fully off now?