Around the NBA, 2020/21 Edition

[MoMM]

Wow, Carsen Edwards made 8 3s in a quarter against Cleveland. He has 30 points in 20 minutes.

[Blue_and_Whte]

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wow..Hes a clown.

[thelead]

Wow, Carsen Edwards made 8 3s in a quarter against Cleveland. He has 30 points in 20 minutes.

Dude isn't long enough to play for us. Skills don't matter here. We just pray that long players eventually learn the skill...

[RookieStar]

How come a certain posted isnt banned is beyond me...
Attacks people in every thread.

LOL which one? There are quite a few candidates.

[tiderulz]

Carsen Edwards was a player i was hoping the Magic would take. looked good in SL, went off last night.

[MoMM]

Okeke is playing really well too, he is the next Shawn Marion...

[pepe1991]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

[j-ragg]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

I agree. And I don’t (wouldn’t) care that people don’t denounce China. If it’s good for your bottom line, say what you gotta say. Just the blatant hypocrisy of it all is so delicious.

And saying Morey is uneducated on the issue is hilarious.

Is there any doubt in a decade or so LBJ will take credit for people learning about China’s human rights issues?

[swarlesbarkley]

Players acting woke while having no freaking clue what they are talking about is most 2020 thing ever.
Just a notion that mainly afro-american league ( 80,7% of players are black) is supporting China , country with limited civil rights, censored media, no democracy ...but biggest market and direct influence on their pockets just tells you level of hypocrisy.

I agree that LeBron looks bad here but "players acting woke" is not hypocrisy. They're also not "acting". It's entirely possible to be only concerned about how people are being treating in your own country. Try to fix whatever they can at home first before exploring beyond our borders.

[pepe1991]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

I agree. And I don’t (wouldn’t) care that people don’t denounce China. If it’s good for your bottom line, say what you gotta say. Just the blatant hypocrisy of it all is so delicious.

And saying Morey is uneducated on the issue is hilarious.

Is there any doubt in a decade or so LBJ will take credit for people learning about China’s human rights issues?

This is why Muhammad Ali is most iconic sport figure in history. He was ready to throw everything away to fight for what he belived was right fight.

And that's why Lebron is hypocrit that will act woke , wear " i can't breath" shirts and wear nike shoes produced in China where people work for 16 hours a day for $2 so his company can sell them for $200 to spoiled rich kid in Germany, Canada or LA.

Typical company man, that's why nike signed him for life. If Nike decides to produce nuclear bombs, he will be first to shoot commercial for it.

[j-ragg]

Players acting woke while having no freaking clue what they are talking about is most 2020 thing ever.
Just a notion that mainly afro-american league ( 80,7% of players are black) is supporting China , country with limited civil rights, censored media, no democracy ...but biggest market and direct influence on their pockets just tells you level of hypocrisy.

I agree that LeBron looks bad here but "players acting woke" is not hypocrisy. They're also not "acting". It's entirely possible to be only concerned about how people are being treating in your own country. Try to fix whatever they can at home first before exploring beyond our borders.

It's possible, but given the huge market certain guys (LBJ, Curry, Harden, Houston as a whole) have with China. Wouldn't the most plausible scenario be they are acting ignorant because of financial reasons? I think they're ignorant about a lot of American issues but that never stopped them before.

[swarlesbarkley]

This is why Muhammad Ali is most iconic sport figure in history. He was ready to throw everything away to fight for what he belived was right fight.

And that's why Lebron is hypocrit that will act woke , wear " i can't breath" shirts and wear nike shoes produced in China where people work for 16 hours a day for $2 so his company can sell them for $200 to spoiled rich kid in Germany, Canada or LA.

Typical company man, that's why nike signed him for life. If Nike decides to produce nuclear bombs, he will be first to shoot commercial for it.

Dude, LeBron doesn't have to be whatever definition of activist you have in your head. Though both significant human rights issues, don't you think LeBron, a black American, would care more about American police killing unarmed black American men more than inhumane working conditions in China?

Also, don't flippantly quote "I can't breathe" like it wasn't an issue.

[swarlesbarkley]

Players acting woke while having no freaking clue what they are talking about is most 2020 thing ever.
Just a notion that mainly afro-american league ( 80,7% of players are black) is supporting China , country with limited civil rights, censored media, no democracy ...but biggest market and direct influence on their pockets just tells you level of hypocrisy.

I agree that LeBron looks bad here but "players acting woke" is not hypocrisy. They're also not "acting". It's entirely possible to be only concerned about how people are being treating in your own country. Try to fix whatever they can at home first before exploring beyond our borders.

It's possible, but given the huge market certain guys (LBJ, Curry, Harden, Houston as a whole) have with China. Wouldn't the most plausible scenario be they are acting ignorant because of financial reasons? I think they're ignorant about a lot of American issues but that never stopped them before.

I'm saying it's extremely plausible that they care about hometown issues way more than international issues. That doesn't make them fake or "acting" or whatever. It doesn't negate that they took a stand for what they saw as an American issue. They can both be genuine about their passion for BLM at the same time as not caring about human rights issues in China. But just because LeBron looks bad with this situation doesn't mean he's been a fake or has been "acting woke" for other issues. Reality is not just black or white - it's all sorts of grey - it just happens to be easier to think in binary terms.

[Bakomagic]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

“Just play basketball and stfu” naw.... I don’t know where you are from but Lebron is an American citizen in America he and all Americans are afforded the right to speak there mind even if you don’t agree with what he is saying.

It’s ironic that you are posing as being on the side of fighting oppression while trying to suppress Lebron’s freedom of speech.

[j-ragg]

I agree that LeBron looks bad here but "players acting woke" is not hypocrisy. They're also not "acting". It's entirely possible to be only concerned about how people are being treating in your own country. Try to fix whatever they can at home first before exploring beyond our borders.

It's possible, but given the huge market certain guys (LBJ, Curry, Harden, Houston as a whole) have with China. Wouldn't the most plausible scenario be they are acting ignorant because of financial reasons? I think they're ignorant about a lot of American issues but that never stopped them before.

I'm saying it's extremely plausible that they care about hometown issues way more than international issues.

Certainly plausible... just think it'd be naive to think all these guys are ignorant when it comes to this China bs but so informed on these American topics. Like I said, it doesn't even bother me either way, you gotta look out for your wallet and I get that.

Two things can be true at once - he cares about issues he speaks on in America. He just doesn't give a **** about human rights violations (much more egregious) in China. He just shouldn't prop himself up then as the new leader of justice.

[swarlesbarkley]

It's possible, but given the huge market certain guys (LBJ, Curry, Harden, Houston as a whole) have with China. Wouldn't the most plausible scenario be they are acting ignorant because of financial reasons? I think they're ignorant about a lot of American issues but that never stopped them before.

I'm saying it's extremely plausible that they care about hometown issues way more than international issues.

Certainly plausible... just think it'd be naive to think all these guys are ignorant when it comes to this China bs but so informed on these American topics. Like I said, it doesn't even bother me either way, you gotta look out for your wallet and I get that.

Two things can be true at once - he cares about issues he speaks on in America. He just doesn't give a **** about human rights violations (much more egregious) in China. He just shouldn't prop himself up then as the new leader of justice.

Yeah, I mean I'm sure that 14 year old LeBron wasn't like "I wanna play basketball because it's an international game and I can make millions of dollars in the Chinese market". He wanted to play basketball. Now, he probably has financial people working for him that keep him in the loop of where he's making the most money and he could be pandering to that. He could also just have no idea what he's talking about and he's doubling down on himself instead of admitting a mistake. Neither are good in this situation.

Side note - you live in Michigan? I see Lions and UM. I live in Michigan. If we're close we should meet up and watch some Magic games this season. Shoot me a DM!

[swarlesbarkley]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

“Just play basketball and stfu” naw.... I don’t know where you are from but Lebron is an American citizen in America he and all Americans are afforded the right to speak there mind even if you don’t agree with what he is saying.

It’s ironic that you are posing as being on the side of fighting oppression while trying to suppress Lebron’s freedom of speech.

I was trying to understand why Pepe's comments ticked me off so much and you nailed it here.

[j-ragg]

I'm saying it's extremely plausible that they care about hometown issues way more than international issues.

Certainly plausible... just think it'd be naive to think all these guys are ignorant when it comes to this China bs but so informed on these American topics. Like I said, it doesn't even bother me either way, you gotta look out for your wallet and I get that.

Two things can be true at once - he cares about issues he speaks on in America. He just doesn't give a **** about human rights violations (much more egregious) in China. He just shouldn't prop himself up then as the new leader of justice.

Yeah, I mean I'm sure that 14 year old LeBron wasn't like "I wanna play basketball because it's an international game and I can make millions of dollars in the Chinese market". He wanted to play basketball. Now, he probably has financial people working for him that keep him in the loop of where he's making the most money and he could be pandering to that. He could also just have no idea what he's talking about and he's doubling down on himself instead of admitting a mistake. Neither are good in this situation.

Side note - you live in Michigan? I see Lions and UM. I live in Michigan. If we're close we should meet up and watch some Magic games this season. Shoot me a DM!

I'm sure he is in a tough spot, as are most of the big NBA guys with Chinese markets. But yeah I don't care enough to care that much about it, just sharing my .02.

Family is all from Detroit, we left there in '93 when I was 6 or so to go to Central Florida. Mom didn't love having her car set on fire randomly in Detroit I guess. Weird because you'd think I'd root for the Pistons coming off their b2b, but in the mid 90s following Orlando was the thing to do. I'll always love the Lions and I root for UM when they're on but don't really like college football that much. As one of the few Lions fans in FL no one around here understands what its like to be a terrible franchise but still get boned by the refs weekly lol.

[pepe1991]

lol this Lebron - China thing is epic.
Can't wait until he again starts to call out Trump and injustice system while he is fine with concentraction camps in China as long as they make him sweet little dollars. Like, how much money do you need?

I never liked him for no particular reason, but over a years he gave me all reasons i needed ,and ones i didn't need.

Just play basketball and stfu.

And a nerve to call Morey uneducated . if Morey called him uneducated he would be fired for racism in matter of seconds.

“Just play basketball and stfu” naw.... I don’t know where you are from but Lebron is an American citizen in America he and all Americans are afforded the right to speak there mind even if you don’t agree with what he is saying.

It’s ironic that you are posing as being on the side of fighting oppression while trying to suppress Lebron’s freedom of speech.

I was trying to understand why Pepe's comments ticked me off so much and you nailed it here.

Saying Morey, who supported Hong Kong - who are in legit fear of losing civil rights- is uneducated and not distancing himself from China and comunist society that is based about suppressing civil rights and democracy , yet posting on twitter months ago how and i qoute "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" is pure exhibit of hypocrisy. So yes, he has every right to speak his mind, but he also only cares about social issues as long as they don't affect his wallet. And being one of the richest athletes in the world, yet still being such a hypocrit just to protect sweet China-money speaks volumens of him as person.

To him human rights only matter when he has nothing to lose. But in a second he has money to lose ,he'll back off. Who cares that that people have lifes to lose being trapped in concentrational camps to " re -educate them" as long as China gives his beloved Nike place where they can pay their workes $3 a day?

I'm from middle Europe and country that escaped comunism 25 years ago. Every person who lived under a comunist boot will tell you how much of a hell it is. Imagine going home one day where you worked whole life for your house,car and land to be told to go kick rocks as nothing is no longer yours but it all belongs to party. And if you say anything about party, you will spend 20 years on infamous "naked island" doing worst jobs possible . And no, there is nothing funny about "naked islands" , it was nickname for island without threes where prisoners would work 18 hours a day , whole year. Temperature over summer was 86 degrees Fahrenheit and in winter 35.6 degrees Fahrenheit. Why it was important that there was no threes? So they couldn't hide from sun at any point. For welcome on island you would first be beaten like animal, than ones who guards thought didn't get enough, would have to go through "blood walkthrough" for additional beating.



So yes, Lebron has every right to speak whatever he wants, he also alraedy used his right to be clueless, arrogant about subject that prefers staying ignorant in face of reality because it makes him extra money that he really does not need.
But ,like many people , i have every right to call him spineless , corporate dull , tool.

And i don't want to hear that " what he should say ,it's lose lose for him" . how about saying what's right : "as a black athlete who faced uphill battle my whole life to get where i am today, i belive every person has a right to choose what's best for him" . if that triggers China policy maybe you shouldn't work with these people to being with ?

For God's sake there were people during a game wearing mask in stands because they are afraid that the Chinese government will imprisoned them!

[RookieStar]

Lebron has every right to speak up whether he supports Morey's right of free speech or tell Morey to STFU and let him earn more for his bottom line.

I don't usually agree with pepe but this time I agree. LBJ keeps on saying he is "woke", he is more than a basketball player, he fights for justice and blah blah blah. However, he had the gall to basically tell Morey to shut up and he is uneducated about the china issue? So yeah, keep on speaking up lebron as is your right, but next time he speaks about ANY issue, people shut either snort and mutter hypocrite or STFU and dribble. He lost every cred he has with his idiotic statement.