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Billy Goat wrote:"He's 7'3 and doing this!"
Why does his height matter? The rules apply across the board for everyone. There are no style points.
dakomish23 wrote:A guy like Mitch would have a field day rolling to the rim away from this action.
KnicksGod wrote:
If he gets automatic from some spots, he’s golden. But he often will fail to impose his will on smaller defenders and if someone gets physical with him, the results haven’t been good for KP. His jumper is good but is it great? Make or miss league, make or miss career. Esp. because he doesn’t pass or play a lot of team O.
His D is very good to great and the more he does there, the less his O matters.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
KnicksGod wrote:dakomish23 wrote:A guy like Mitch would have a field day rolling to the rim away from this action.
What’s good about this play? lol. Doncic nailing a tough shot.
“modern” my tush. There is virtue signaling and also “smart signaling” ... using key words like modern.
Modern lol. That play could be made in canvas sneakers probably.
The main point for me is that I don’t think KP is good at much on O except shooting. And he’s not a deadly shooter yet. He’s a good one with height but often doesn’t use his height.
Maybe Carlisle can fix things. Will be interesting to see but the quick 3 is def his favorite shot. He has some habits that need to be worked out.
Also as an important footnote — not sure he could play with Mitch.
They'd have to get way better as shooters though. Knox if he can run it? That would be a nice surprise. Knox Morris PnP, Mitch diving to the rim away from the action. I'll see if I can find some youtube clips of the exact type of play I'm referring to. Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
Plural S tho
It would be pretty foolish for Perk to go on TV and say that if he only heard that from Rondo’s mouth
Im sure Rondo had the loudest opinion on Carlisle out of everybody he spoke too
KnicksGod wrote:
If he gets automatic from some spots, he’s golden. But he often will fail to impose his will on smaller defenders and if someone gets physical with him, the results haven’t been good for KP. His jumper is good but is it great? Make or miss league, make or miss career. Esp. because he doesn’t pass or play a lot of team O.
His D is very good to great and the more he does there, the less his O matters.
robillionaire wrote:DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Sark wrote:
Rajon Rondo.
Plural S tho
It would be pretty foolish for Perk to go on TV and say that if he only heard that from Rondo’s mouth
Im sure Rondo had the loudest opinion on Carlisle out of everybody he spoke too
In the full video, the host basically says “oh you mean rondo” and Perkins says it’s not just Rondo. Also, Rondo had every right to not like him as he and that team tried to destroy his career.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
nedleeds wrote:Good for him. Those are near useless in the NBA. I'll tame the 7 3 SF on offense, who's a top 3 rim protector on defense over **** Al Jefferson all day. Mitch isn't a back to the basket center either thankfully.
KnicksGod wrote:nedleeds wrote:Good for him. Those are near useless in the NBA. I'll tame the 7 3 SF on offense, who's a top 3 rim protector on defense over **** Al Jefferson all day. Mitch isn't a back to the basket center either thankfully.
It’s sort of a false choice though. A guy like Tatum is both better at eluding a defender and shooting a contested shot, from the same-size defender. The question is not why he doesn’t post up so much as can KP find some way to use his height in some way other than 3s. His dribble drive is not dominant and he doesn’t have a dominant move or two, or seem that close to those, though he is still young.
I give you the D. Whether that’s worth a Max, it might well be if he can stay healthy.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
KnicksGod wrote:nedleeds wrote:Good for him. Those are near useless in the NBA. I'll tame the 7 3 SF on offense, who's a top 3 rim protector on defense over **** Al Jefferson all day. Mitch isn't a back to the basket center either thankfully.
It’s sort of a false choice though. A guy like Tatum is both better at eluding a defender and shooting a contested shot, from the same-size defender. The question is not why he doesn’t post up so much as can KP find some way to use his height in some way other than 3s. His dribble drive is not dominant and he doesn’t have a dominant move or two, or seem that close to those, though he is still young.
I give you the D. Whether that’s worth a Max, it might well be if he can stay healthy.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
dreamer3kx wrote:KP can be great but this 100% he doesnt stay healthy, never has and just cant being a big man like that and the way he plays.
OpiumDose wrote:dreamer3kx wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if he averages 10+ rebounds with Mavs.
