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[HEZI]

D-Lo looks terrible

he was always overrated. i wonder if golden state would be able to find a taker for him when they decide to try to trade him. maxed out he's a hard sell and you can't start him & curry together forever. he'll probably become a very expensive 6th man.

I don’t know what looked terrible about him last night. He has 23 on 17 shots. He’s really good when he gets screen help & the Warriors run more screens than anyone. He’s gonna have a big year.

They are just hating on the dude. Reality is DLo would have been perfect with RJ and Knox but now we have to live with DSJ vs Trier debates

After seeing the lineup GS threw out there with DLo I lost all interest in the game and didn't watch. That team is currently without 3 of its starters. I need to see Curry\DLo\Klay\Draymond\WCS then we can talk

[DOT]

Be interesting to see how we'd be if we signed DLo over Randle

DLo
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Talent level is about the same, but I think you get more wins out of that team just on fit alone

Same time though, not a fan of a 4 year max for him for us. Rather have Randle's contract, but still think we should've signed neither

[HEZI]

Be interesting to see how we'd be if we signed DLo over Randle

DLo
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Talent level is about the same, but I think you get more wins out of that team just on fit alone

Same time though, not a fan of a 4 year max for him for us. Rather have Randle's contract, but still think we should've signed neither

Are we realistically getting anybody better in free agency in the next 4 years? We should be building a team that at least can coexist and play decent together rather than whatever it is we are doing now

[DOT]

Be interesting to see how we'd be if we signed DLo over Randle

DLo
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Talent level is about the same, but I think you get more wins out of that team just on fit alone

Same time though, not a fan of a 4 year max for him for us. Rather have Randle's contract, but still think we should've signed neither

Are we realistically getting anybody better in free agency in the next 4 years? We should be building a team that at least can coexist and play decent together rather than whatever it is we are doing now

Probably not

But then, I just don't think paying guys who are pretty good but not great when we have so many holes is a viable long term plan. Seems like a good way to lock yourself into a low playoff seed until you have to pay RJ, Knox, and Mitch, then you have no money for role players or upgrades, and we end up picking later until then

Plus, you never know with free agency. If you said a few years ago that Kawhi would sign with the Clippers after lob city broke up, nobody would've believed you. I mean, if DLo is your guy, he's your guy. I just don't think signing guys like him and Randle, or this offseason Jaylen Brown to big deals is the right move

[HEZI]

Be interesting to see how we'd be if we signed DLo over Randle

DLo
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Talent level is about the same, but I think you get more wins out of that team just on fit alone

Same time though, not a fan of a 4 year max for him for us. Rather have Randle's contract, but still think we should've signed neither

Are we realistically getting anybody better in free agency in the next 4 years? We should be building a team that at least can coexist and play decent together rather than whatever it is we are doing now

Probably not

But then, I just don't think paying guys who are pretty good but not great when we have so many holes is a viable long term plan. Seems like a good way to lock yourself into a low playoff seed until you have to pay RJ, Knox, and Mitch, then you have no money for role players or upgrades, and we end up picking later until then

Plus, you never know with free agency. If you said a few years ago that Kawhi would sign with the Clippers after lob city broke up, nobody would've believed you. I mean, if DLo is your guy, he's your guy. I just don't think signing guys like him and Randle, or this offseason Jaylen Brown to big deals is the right move

But quality should be more important than quantity. We had a hole at the 4 last year and blew our cap space on all bigs and created a glut and still have issues at the PG spot. Would have been better to solve the PG issue and then fill the holes because it's less harder to fill other spots than getting an All Star PG that compliments the building blocks we already have.

As far as the contract, there are always avenues available to bring a mega star as long as you get a committment from him. Sign and trades are common nowadays and other team trades can be explored. I really wouldn't see DLo being hard to move if need be or even keeping him and creating an extra max slot by dumping other players. Those options would be available. The hardest part is being respectable enough that a mega star would actually want to play here.

[frothbrain]

Be interesting to see how we'd be if we signed DLo over Randle

DLo
RJ
Knox
Morris
Mitch

Talent level is about the same, but I think you get more wins out of that team just on fit alone

Same time though, not a fan of a 4 year max for him for us. Rather have Randle's contract, but still think we should've signed neither

Why would DLO have ever signed here to compete with a crowded backcourt on a bad team for less money when he had the option to sign with the GSW for more money?

[Capn'O]

At least he’s having some fun out there

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[god shammgod]

he was always overrated. i wonder if golden state would be able to find a taker for him when they decide to try to trade him. maxed out he's a hard sell and you can't start him & curry together forever. he'll probably become a very expensive 6th man.

I don’t know what looked terrible about him last night. He has 23 on 17 shots. He’s really good when he gets screen help & the Warriors run more screens than anyone. He’s gonna have a big year.

They are just hating on the dude. Reality is DLo would have been perfect with RJ and Knox but now we have to live with DSJ vs Trier debates

After seeing the lineup GS threw out there with DLo I lost all interest in the game and didn't watch. That team is currently without 3 of its starters. I need to see Curry\DLo\Klay\Draymond\WCS then we can talk

perfect for what ? what is your ceiling with that team ? on golden state he's fine because when klay is back he's the 4th best player there and they were able to add him after the 3 best players were already there. it's just money for them, for us it prevents us from building the team. you can't just ignore the salary cap.

[HEZI]

I don’t know what looked terrible about him last night. He has 23 on 17 shots. He’s really good when he gets screen help & the Warriors run more screens than anyone. He’s gonna have a big year.

They are just hating on the dude. Reality is DLo would have been perfect with RJ and Knox but now we have to live with DSJ vs Trier debates

After seeing the lineup GS threw out there with DLo I lost all interest in the game and didn't watch. That team is currently without 3 of its starters. I need to see Curry\DLo\Klay\Draymond\WCS then we can talk

perfect for what ? what is your ceiling with that team ? on golden state he's fine because when klay is back he's the 4th best player there and they were able to add him after the 3 best players were already there. it's just money for them, for us it prevents us from building the team. you can't just ignore the salary cap.

What team have we built currently? What's our ceiling at the moment?

At the very least they could have tried to build a roster that compliments eachother and see where it goes from there. You would still have jad a young team that could possibly have looked to sneak into the playoffs and continued building from there. If you ever needed to hit the reset button that option is always open. At the moment you currently have a dumpster fire

[Mecca]

They are just hating on the dude. Reality is DLo would have been perfect with RJ and Knox but now we have to live with DSJ vs Trier debates

After seeing the lineup GS threw out there with DLo I lost all interest in the game and didn't watch. That team is currently without 3 of its starters. I need to see Curry\DLo\Klay\Draymond\WCS then we can talk

perfect for what ? what is your ceiling with that team ? on golden state he's fine because when klay is back he's the 4th best player there and they were able to add him after the 3 best players were already there. it's just money for them, for us it prevents us from building the team. you can't just ignore the salary cap.

What team have we built currently? What's our ceiling at the moment?

At the very least they could have tried to build a roster that compliments eachother and see where it goes from there. You would still have jad a young team that could possibly have looked to sneak into the playoffs and continued building from there. If you ever needed to hit the reset button that option is always open. At the moment you currently have a dumpster fire

DLo can play on/off ball. Elite at coming off of screens. Spaces the court. Only 23. With so much offense in DLo/RJ, you can throw in a pair of defenders like Frank and Mitch in the lineup, and suddenly you have a really complimentary lineup. Stink for 1 more year and bam, you have your core 5.

[Capn'O]

We still would have been bad with him but we would have had another younger piece and not this weird logjam.

[god shammgod]

They are just hating on the dude. Reality is DLo would have been perfect with RJ and Knox but now we have to live with DSJ vs Trier debates

After seeing the lineup GS threw out there with DLo I lost all interest in the game and didn't watch. That team is currently without 3 of its starters. I need to see Curry\DLo\Klay\Draymond\WCS then we can talk

perfect for what ? what is your ceiling with that team ? on golden state he's fine because when klay is back he's the 4th best player there and they were able to add him after the 3 best players were already there. it's just money for them, for us it prevents us from building the team. you can't just ignore the salary cap.

What team have we built currently? What's our ceiling at the moment?

At the very least they could have tried to build a roster that compliments eachother and see where it goes from there. You would still have jad a young team that could possibly have looked to sneak into the playoffs and continued building from there. If you ever needed to hit the reset button that option is always open. At the moment you currently have a dumpster fire

being a dumpster fire will at least get us back in the top of draft where we might get a real difference maker. this is rebuilding through the draft. it's a long process. we just started, you guys all claimed you wanted to rebuild but you lost patience right away.

and you can't always hit the reset button easily. nobody in the league wanted d-lo at max money. golden state took him so they wouldn't lose durant for nothing. why else would he go to a team that already an established point guard and a forward who runs the plays half the time. it's not even a great situation for him but he couldn't get that money anywhere else. i'm not really sure they can easily trade him for an expiring. he's not really a max player.

[HEZI]

perfect for what ? what is your ceiling with that team ? on golden state he's fine because when klay is back he's the 4th best player there and they were able to add him after the 3 best players were already there. it's just money for them, for us it prevents us from building the team. you can't just ignore the salary cap.

What team have we built currently? What's our ceiling at the moment?

At the very least they could have tried to build a roster that compliments eachother and see where it goes from there. You would still have jad a young team that could possibly have looked to sneak into the playoffs and continued building from there. If you ever needed to hit the reset button that option is always open. At the moment you currently have a dumpster fire

being a dumpster fire will at least get us back in the top of draft where we might get a real difference maker. this is rebuilding through the draft. it's a long process. we just started, you guys all claimed you wanted to rebuild but you lost patience right away.

and you can't always hit the reset button easily. nobody in the league wanted d-lo at max money. golden state took him so they wouldn't lose durant for nothing. why else would he go to a team that already an established point guard and a forward who runs the plays half the time. it's not even a great situation for him but he couldn't get that money anywhere else not really sure they can easily trade him for an expiring. he's not really a max player.

You aren't guaranteed a top pick even with this bad team we have now considering the new lotto odds and other bad teams in the league. At this point we are hoping to land a DLo type of player in the draft.

You have zero proof that nobody wantef DLo at the max like zero proof. TWolves had very strong interest but Nets wanted KD so that's why it all went down how it did. If he was really on the market without KD being in the picture you wohld have seen a lot more teams show interest.

[Mecca]

We still would have been bad with him but we would have had another younger piece and not this weird logjam.

This weird logjam will have Frank and Trier out of the rotation and Knox playing 12 minutes a game, and It's a disaster. Even Mitch won't get 30, I'm thinking maybe 26, which is sad.

[Mecca]

What team have we built currently? What's our ceiling at the moment?

At the very least they could have tried to build a roster that compliments eachother and see where it goes from there. You would still have jad a young team that could possibly have looked to sneak into the playoffs and continued building from there. If you ever needed to hit the reset button that option is always open. At the moment you currently have a dumpster fire

being a dumpster fire will at least get us back in the top of draft where we might get a real difference maker. this is rebuilding through the draft. it's a long process. we just started, you guys all claimed you wanted to rebuild but you lost patience right away.

and you can't always hit the reset button easily. nobody in the league wanted d-lo at max money. golden state took him so they wouldn't lose durant for nothing. why else would he go to a team that already an established point guard and a forward who runs the plays half the time. it's not even a great situation for him but he couldn't get that money anywhere else not really sure they can easily trade him for an expiring. he's not really a max player.

You aren't guaranteed a top pick even with this bad team we have now considering the new lotto odds and other bad teams in the league. At this point we are hoping to land a DLo type of player in the draft.

You have zero proof that nobody wantef DLo at the max like zero proof. TWolves had very strong interest but Nets wanted KD so that's why it all went down how it did. If he was really on the market without KD being in the picture you wohld have seen a lot more teams show interest.

Some posters hate when I do this, but I caught Brickley at the airport when I went to the Summer League. We chopped it up for 15 minutes when waiting for our bags. Teams wanted DLo for the max. The Knicks had 0 interest.

[Dave DaButcher]

We were so close!

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[god shammgod]

the timberwolves didn't even have max money. they wanted to trade wiggins for d'lo. lol

[Capn'O]

We were so close!

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The rest of the non-believers will come around soon enough. It is an untenable position. Zion will be really, really good.

[HEZI]

the timberwolves didn't even have max money. they wanted to trade wiggins for d'lo. lol

And you think Warriors wanted him on a max deal just to use him as a trade asset

Nobody was signing him to a max deal this dude said but guys like Middleton and Tobias all got paid

Yeah ok

[Mecca]

the timberwolves didn't even have max money. they wanted to trade wiggins for d'lo. lol

Not true. Was centered around Covington + other parts.