50CalClips wrote:Harkless, JaMychal, Patterson... what do we expect, how will they deal with Anthony Davis?
How much, if at all, will Kawhi match up against AD?
nickhx2 wrote:50CalClips wrote:Harkless, JaMychal, Patterson... what do we expect, how will they deal with Anthony Davis?
How much, if at all, will Kawhi match up against AD?
you deal with anthony davis the way he's been dealt with for the past several years.
build a team that's good enough beat his team. and that's what the clippers have done.
nickhx2 wrote:i wouldn't go so far to say he's overrated. just saying like any other player, they're only as good as their team.
so hemming and hawing about how to beat and match up with anthony davis in a vacuum imo isn't very productive. at the end of the day when the teams play there will be give and take, and the team that's smarter about that and better overall is the one that's gonna win.
and if you ask me it'll be this LA team, and not the other one.
I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impactMax Headrom wrote:nickhx2 wrote:50CalClips wrote:Harkless, JaMychal, Patterson... what do we expect, how will they deal with Anthony Davis?
How much, if at all, will Kawhi match up against AD?
you deal with anthony davis the way he's been dealt with for the past several years.
build a team that's good enough beat his team. and that's what the clippers have done.
He's become Kevin Love in Minnesota overrated at this point. Great numbers that haven't meant a thing as far as impact on wins.
NippySudz wrote:I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impactMax Headrom wrote:nickhx2 wrote:
you deal with anthony davis the way he's been dealt with for the past several years.
build a team that's good enough beat his team. and that's what the clippers have done.
He's become Kevin Love in Minnesota overrated at this point. Great numbers that haven't meant a thing as far as impact on wins.
Are We Having Fun Yet? 
Those are raw numbers in a head to head matchup. It's not fair to use those numbers.esqtvd wrote:NippySudz wrote:I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impactMax Headrom wrote:
He's become Kevin Love in Minnesota overrated at this point. Great numbers that haven't meant a thing as far as impact on wins.
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
Just to show how head matchups are fallaciousesqtvd wrote:NippySudz wrote:I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impactMax Headrom wrote:
He's become Kevin Love in Minnesota overrated at this point. Great numbers that haven't meant a thing as far as impact on wins.
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
NippySudz wrote:Just to show how head matchups are fallaciousesqtvd wrote:NippySudz wrote:I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impact
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/demar_derozan_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm
DeMar DeRozan is statically better in head to head with kawhi.
Going by raw numbers doesn't do a great job of illustrating skill level of a player. AD is better than love.
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NippySudz wrote:Just to show how head matchups are fallaciousesqtvd wrote:NippySudz wrote:I think You're exaggerating a bit. He's way better than what love ever was and with LeBron he's going to have an impact
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/demar_derozan_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm
DeMar DeRozan is statically better in head to head with kawhi.
Going by raw numbers doesn't do a great job of illustrating skill level of a player. AD is better than love.
Are We Having Fun Yet?AD is a better rebounder than bosh was and although he was a solid PNR with LeBron, ad is much better in this regard. Bosh is a better 3pt shooter if I had to guessMax Headrom wrote:NippySudz wrote:Just to show how head matchups are fallaciousesqtvd wrote:
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/demar_derozan_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm
DeMar DeRozan is statically better in head to head with kawhi.
Going by raw numbers doesn't do a great job of illustrating skill level of a player. AD is better than love.
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Point being, as good as everyone is saying he is, his resume doesn't support that especially since he's supposed to be this transcendent talent. Also, big men are usually relegated to jump shooters playing with LeBron so, we'll see what happens this year.
Not comparing but just remember the numbers Bosh was putting up before playing with LeBron and having to end up being a stretch 4 next to LeBron
I see what you're saying. I just think he's better than him by a country Mike even if they both put up empty stats.esqtvd wrote:NippySudz wrote:Just to show how head matchups are fallaciousesqtvd wrote:
Hm.
Summary of Victories
Games Won
Anthony Davis
4
Kevin Love
5
Stats in Games Between Them
Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks
Anthony Davis 20.2 9.8 1.7 1.6 2.2
Kevin Love 18.3 9.6 2.3 1.1 0.2
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Best Season (no game minimum)
Points Per Game
Anthony Davis 28.1 (2018)
Kevin Love 26.1 (2014)
Rebounds Per Game
Anthony Davis 12.0 (2019)
Kevin Love 15.2 (2011)
Assists Per Game
Anthony Davis 3.9 (2019)
Kevin Love 4.4 (2014)
Steals Per Game
Anthony Davis 1.6 (2019)
Kevin Love 0.9 (2017)
Blocks Per Game
Anthony Davis 2.9 (2015)
Kevin Love 0.6 (2009)
AD gets the nod but I'm not sure it's by a quantum leap.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/demar_derozan_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm
DeMar DeRozan is statically better in head to head with kawhi.
Going by raw numbers doesn't do a great job of illustrating skill level of a player. AD is better than love.
They played each other roughly even. Had there been a huge disparity that might be argued as significant. But they didn't, so you move on from the null result. But it's good to at least look at these things.
Hey, AD is better. He made 3 all-defense teams, even the first team once. But I think it's fair to put them in the same tier: Guys who put up similar numbers but neither of whom was able to carry their teams to the playoffs most years, let alone succeed there. He's gonna get his 25 and 12, but I'm not afraid of AD either.
https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/anthony_davis_vs_kevin_love.htm
Anthony Davis: 2013 to 2019
Kevin Love: 2009 to 2019
NBA Championships and Seasons
NBA Championships
Anthony Davis 0
Kevin Love 1
NBA Seasons
Anthony Davis 7
Kevin Love 11
Playoffs Played
Anthony Davis 2
Kevin Love 4
All-Star Games
Anthony Davis 6
Kevin Love 5
Honors and Awards
All-NBA First Team
Anthony Davis 3
Kevin Love 0
All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)
Anthony Davis 3
Kevin Love 2
All-Defensive 1st Team
Anthony Davis 1
Kevin Love 0
All-Defensive Teams
(Total Selections)
Anthony Davis 3
Kevin Love 0
Rebounds Leader
Anthony Davis 0
Kevin Love 1
Blocks Leader
Anthony Davis 3
Kevin Love 0
NippySudz wrote:AD is a better rebounder than bosh was and although he was a solid PNR with LeBron, ad is much better in this regard. Bosh is a better 3pt shooter if I had to guessMax Headrom wrote:NippySudz wrote:Just to show how head matchups are fallacious
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/demar_derozan_vs_kawhi_leonard.htm
DeMar DeRozan is statically better in head to head with kawhi.
Going by raw numbers doesn't do a great job of illustrating skill level of a player. AD is better than love.
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Point being, as good as everyone is saying he is, his resume doesn't support that especially since he's supposed to be this transcendent talent. Also, big men are usually relegated to jump shooters playing with LeBron so, we'll see what happens this year.
Not comparing but just remember the numbers Bosh was putting up before playing with LeBron and having to end up being a stretch 4 next to LeBron
But you're right in saying people sing his praised for someone that hasn't accomplished much. I don't think he's top 5 but I do think he's top7
All my top fives actually have accolodes.
1. Kawhi(2x champion/2xfvmp, 2xdpoy)
2. Giannis (MVP, 60 win team last yr. Ecf appearance
3. LeBron( hes LeBron)
4.steph curry(3x champion, 2x league MVP, best shooter of all time
5. James harden(league MVP)
Ad is number 6 or 7 for me. Because of his talent but I don't think he has the Moxy to win as the guy. He's not a leader tbe same was Paul George isn't a leader. They're secondary on championship teams.
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Stop it. LeBron is a closer. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean hes not a closer. He's more Tom Brady than Jordan.Max Headrom wrote:NippySudz wrote:AD is a better rebounder than bosh was and although he was a solid PNR with LeBron, ad is much better in this regard. Bosh is a better 3pt shooter if I had to guessMax Headrom wrote:
Point being, as good as everyone is saying he is, his resume doesn't support that especially since he's supposed to be this transcendent talent. Also, big men are usually relegated to jump shooters playing with LeBron so, we'll see what happens this year.
Not comparing but just remember the numbers Bosh was putting up before playing with LeBron and having to end up being a stretch 4 next to LeBron
But you're right in saying people sing his praised for someone that hasn't accomplished much. I don't think he's top 5 but I do think he's top7
All my top fives actually have accolodes.
1. Kawhi(2x champion/2xfvmp, 2xdpoy)
2. Giannis (MVP, 60 win team last yr. Ecf appearance
3. LeBron( hes LeBron)
4.steph curry(3x champion, 2x league MVP, best shooter of all time
5. James harden(league MVP)
Ad is number 6 or 7 for me. Because of his talent but I don't think he has the Moxy to win as the guy. He's not a leader tbe same was Paul George isn't a leader. They're secondary on championship teams.
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Another thing no one is talking about is, the Lakers don't have closers. LeBron has never been a REAL closer, just by default but that's why Irving and Wade handled those duties while playing with him.
And AD usually puts up his numbers in the first 3 quarters and fades when the game matters. Gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.
NippySudz wrote:Stop it. LeBron is a closer. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean hes not a closer. He's more Tom Brady than Jordan.Max Headrom wrote:NippySudz wrote:AD is a better rebounder than bosh was and although he was a solid PNR with LeBron, ad is much better in this regard. Bosh is a better 3pt shooter if I had to guess
But you're right in saying people sing his praised for someone that hasn't accomplished much. I don't think he's top 5 but I do think he's top7
All my top fives actually have accolodes.
1. Kawhi(2x champion/2xfvmp, 2xdpoy)
2. Giannis (MVP, 60 win team last yr. Ecf appearance
3. LeBron( hes LeBron)
4.steph curry(3x champion, 2x league MVP, best shooter of all time
5. James harden(league MVP)
Ad is number 6 or 7 for me. Because of his talent but I don't think he has the Moxy to win as the guy. He's not a leader tbe same was Paul George isn't a leader. They're secondary on championship teams.
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Another thing no one is talking about is, the Lakers don't have closers. LeBron has never been a REAL closer, just by default but that's why Irving and Wade handled those duties while playing with him.
And AD usually puts up his numbers in the first 3 quarters and fades when the game matters. Gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.
Meaning LeBron makes 4th quarter rallies over game winning shots but even then so he has made high pressure shots especially when he's went back to Cavs
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Its just inaccurate. Especially Late in his career to say this guy is not a closer. you can sleep on his ability to close, doesn't make what you're saying true. Just go look at the last season in Cleveland the difficulty of those shots. The Toronto game winner and Indiana were in the playoffsMax Headrom wrote:NippySudz wrote:Stop it. LeBron is a closer. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean hes not a closer. He's more Tom Brady than Jordan.Max Headrom wrote:
Another thing no one is talking about is, the Lakers don't have closers. LeBron has never been a REAL closer, just by default but that's why Irving and Wade handled those duties while playing with him.
And AD usually puts up his numbers in the first 3 quarters and fades when the game matters. Gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.
Meaning LeBron makes 4th quarter rallies over game winning shots but even then so he has made high pressure shots especially when he's went back to Cavs
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Bruh, even LeBron fans will say he isn't a closer. Not Stans but fans. It's not a knock on how great of a player he is or has been but he's not a closer
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