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Post#21 » by Crives » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:08 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Crives wrote:I was so mad when I saw Dallas get Porzingis for cap space , it happened so quickly...

I felt a lot better when the reports dropped of being a dbag to the Knicks and then the sexual allegations were made...

Doesn’t seem like the greatest locker room guy...


I think we may have our pf of the future between Saric/Kaminsky.

Would you take Saric/Kaminsky over dbag Zinger?


I like the KP potential... but I think people are overrating a player who has been out for 18 months.

Small sample size.. but in preseason KP is averaging

blocks (per 36) = 0.8 (Ayton = 1.8 :) )
3pt% = 28.6%
TS% = 48.9%

Probably comes back to form... but I would be worried right now if I am Dallas... if KP doesn’t play up to that 5 year max they are in big trouble... not to mention the injury risk.

It’s possible Frank/Kaminsky are more valuable dollar for dollar this season after what we have seen in preseason.
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Post#22 » by SunsRback4Good » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:28 am

The Spurs finally miss the playoffs as Mavs take their spot.

Lakers get home court advantage but only for first round finishing 4th in the West.

Nuggets get first seed, Clippers second, Jazz third.

Suns start their season 12-5 everybody here loses their cool predicting a top 6 seed in the conference.

Booker averages 27/6/6 on 47% shooting.

Ayton has a nice collection of dunks, finishes season with 20/9/4/2.7 blks.

The LA Clippers beat the Philadelphia 76ers in 6 to win their first title ever.

Kobe announces a return to the league after 5 year absence.
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Re: Hot Takes House 

Post#23 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:11 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
Crives wrote:I was so mad when I saw Dallas get Porzingis for cap space , it happened so quickly...

I felt a lot better when the reports dropped of being a dbag to the Knicks and then the sexual allegations were made...

Doesn’t seem like the greatest locker room guy...


I think we may have our pf of the future between Saric/Kaminsky.

Would you take Saric/Kaminsky over dbag Zinger?


I like the KP potential... but I think people are overrating a player who has been out for 18 months.

Small sample size.. but in preseason KP is averaging

blocks (per 36) = 0.8 (Ayton = 1.8 :) )
3pt% = 28.6%
TS% = 48.9%

Probably comes back to form... but I would be worried right now if I am Dallas... if KP doesn’t play up to that 5 year max they are in big trouble... not to mention the injury risk.

It’s possible Frank/Kaminsky are more valuable dollar for dollar this season after what we have seen in preseason.

I get the concern, especially coming back from that kind of injury and also how will he hold up going forward. I still think he's a super stud (I was pissed when we couldn't even get into the conversation to become a trade partner because of previous front offices moves) and wished we could've gotten him. His defense is potentially game changing and so is his offense which is still a work in progress although his versatility on that end has already revealed itself.

KP at the max is worth it if he stayed healthy. That's a big IF. Personally and honestly, I don't see the Saric/Kaminsky PF rotation as anything for the future. I love Saric but I'm not convinced we're keeping him long term to be our PF of the future. With Kaminsky, I always saw him as a short term solution until we figure out what we're going to do here.
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Re: Hot Takes House 

Post#24 » by Crives » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:55 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Crives wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Would you take Saric/Kaminsky over dbag Zinger?


I like the KP potential... but I think people are overrating a player who has been out for 18 months.

Small sample size.. but in preseason KP is averaging

blocks (per 36) = 0.8 (Ayton = 1.8 :) )
3pt% = 28.6%
TS% = 48.9%

Probably comes back to form... but I would be worried right now if I am Dallas... if KP doesn’t play up to that 5 year max they are in big trouble... not to mention the injury risk.

It’s possible Frank/Kaminsky are more valuable dollar for dollar this season after what we have seen in preseason.

I get the concern, especially coming back from that kind of injury and also how will he hold up going forward. I still think he's a super stud (I was pissed when we couldn't even get into the conversation to become a trade partner because of previous front offices moves) and wished we could've gotten him. His defense is potentially game changing and so is his offense which is still a work in progress although his versatility on that end has already revealed itself.

KP at the max is worth it if he stayed healthy. That's a big IF. Personally and honestly, I don't see the Saric/Kaminsky PF rotation as anything for the future. I love Saric but I'm not convinced we're keeping him long term to be our PF of the future. With Kaminsky, I always saw him as a short term solution until we figure out what we're going to do here.


I might prefer a pf with a bit more defense.. would love someone like Jerami Grant (likely FA next summer)

But I think Jones has shown his card about the type of players he likes... shooting, passing and smart decision making.... if Saric/Kaminsky are close to 40% 3 PT shooters I have a hard time not seeing them in Jones long term plan...

A PF like KP that can defend the rim and shoot is very intriguing... but KP didn’t show off these skills very well in preseason... he needs to play a lot better to deserve that max... we will find out soon.
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Post#25 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:13 pm

I’m skeptical Porzingas will ever come close to justifying his acquisition + salary cost of roughly $200m.

There just isn’t enough upside @ $200m and way too much downside risk. Like, organizational catastrophic-type risk of losing KP, the inability to overcome his injury whatsoever, and eventually losing Doncic from the KP aftermath.

He’s a heavy short if there ever was one, IMO.
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