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“We’ve gotta execute better. We’ve gotta figure out, OK, they’re not doing anything that they were doing maybe the first five, six weeks of the season. They’ve transitioned to this, make those adjustments and go out there and just make plays. Tackle. Set edges,” Thomas said.
GONYK wrote:mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:Shurmur isn't the guy
Any more of these McVay guys available? His barber maybe? They must talk football sometimes
Shurmur isn't the guy and DG was never the guy. Enough of this old people sh*t...league is going young get with the f*cking times Mara
get a young smart GM and then get a young up and coming coach with what should be a young developing roster.
Idk if I'm out on Getty yet. He's amassed some promising young talent and I agree with building from the lines out. He's also made his share of mistakes, but I think he's taking more steps forwards than backwards.
Shurmur, I just don't know what he's doing. He's basically Jeff Hornacek. Alleged offensive prowess that doesn't seem to deliver, and just baffling as a game manager.
mpharris36 wrote:GONYK wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
Shurmur isn't the guy and DG was never the guy. Enough of this old people sh*t...league is going young get with the f*cking times Mara
get a young smart GM and then get a young up and coming coach with what should be a young developing roster.
Idk if I'm out on Getty yet. He's amassed some promising young talent and I agree with building from the lines out. He's also made his share of mistakes, but I think he's taking more steps forwards than backwards.
Shurmur, I just don't know what he's doing. He's basically Jeff Hornacek. Alleged offensive prowess that doesn't seem to deliver, and just baffling as a game manager.
I think the assumption is that we have been doing well in drafts and I would hope so because we are picking in top 5 every year. He also traded one of the best players in NFL for additional draft capital so he should look pretty good.
But the offensive line still sucks (need 2 new tackles)
We get no pressure on d-line (invested a ton of high picks there)
We have no play making linebackers
We lack a true #1 WR
We have no FS
So while it’s nice he believed in Barkley and Jones. I still haven’t seen overall talent improvement of the overall roster. His FA and traded have been disadterious (solder, ogletree, Bethesda, remmers, Tate (he’s the exact same player as Sheppard terrible duplication).
Has he been as bad as shurmur no but I want a new regime I want a young GM that uses a different methods. Trades down and acquires more draft capital. And also find a new coach.
By the way DG regime picked shurmur to be the HC so he has to take some flack for that.
Reese picked ObJ, JPP, and some other good players but could never build a complete team so I am not about to say we are improving when it’s likely we will be 2-11 going into week 15. I see the cardinals roster talent improving I don’t see ours to the level it should with all the assets he was given.
Shurmur is a bum and not even worth discussing. DG is getting a pass for turning this roster over when he thought the roster could compete with Eli...that’s false, hired Shurmur, and has signed and traded for zero impact players. Just reaping the rewards of high picks because Reese couldn’t build a competitive team isn’t special in my eyes.
mpharris36 wrote:I guess what I’m saying is I know Shurmur is a dud.
But DG doesn’t get a pass from me. He has had 4 1st round picks in 2 years and 2 of them high high first rounders. We should have a good young core. That’s a given. But we still lack any improvement in positions of need.
blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:I guess what I’m saying is I know Shurmur is a dud.
But DG doesn’t get a pass from me. He has had 4 1st round picks in 2 years and 2 of them high high first rounders. We should have a good young core. That’s a given. But we still lack any improvement in positions of need.
connelly was looking like a legit stud.
and don't discredit the first rounders when he took lawrence and got shredded by the media pundits. look at lawrence now, top 10 player in his position.
giants have one of the best special team units, he built that.
nfl qb's scrambled and extend plays, so you need a good secondary. he drafted 3 cb's, and last year had beal.
it takes 3-4 drafts to fully rebuild.
blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:I guess what I’m saying is I know Shurmur is a dud.
But DG doesn’t get a pass from me. He has had 4 1st round picks in 2 years and 2 of them high high first rounders. We should have a good young core. That’s a given. But we still lack any improvement in positions of need.
connelly was looking like a legit stud.
and don't discredit the first rounders when he took lawrence and got shredded by the media pundits. look at lawrence now, top 10 player in his position.
giants have one of the best special team units, he built that.
nfl qb's scrambled and extend plays, so you need a good secondary. he drafted 3 cb's, and last year had beal.
it takes 3-4 drafts to fully rebuild.
Pharmcat wrote:Guest202 wrote:Didn't he score 30 two weeks ago on 5 of 10 from three?
you can still have good games in the decline, look at kobe's last game in his career
GONYK wrote:I honestly don't get the move.
There has to be another shoe dropping here.
JXL wrote:GONYK wrote:I honestly don't get the move.
There has to be another shoe dropping here.
Jackrabbit in a big trade? No one is taking Solder and that albatross.
Rich Rane wrote:
Hmm at the time, a lot of Jets fans thought he was the steal of the draft since he was the most NFL ready at the time. Just leveled off after 2 seasons. Hopefully he works out better for you guys.
Also, is it wise to be buyers at 2-6?
GONYK wrote:JXL wrote:GONYK wrote:I honestly don't get the move.
There has to be another shoe dropping here.
Jackrabbit in a big trade? No one is taking Solder and that albatross.
It won't be Solder. He's awful, but we can't afford to lose him.
Jackrabbit makes sense, since Beal is coming back.
