Why Zion’s Knees Will Never Be Fixed

Benedict_Boozer · Post #21 » by **Benedict_Boozer** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:06 pm

Interesting. Is this “bro science” or legit?

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jlokine · Post #22 » by **jlokine** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:06 pm

SWYM · Post #23 » by **SWYM** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:07 pm

Pennebaker wrote:What's the curse again? Oden, Rose and Griffin were all drafted back to back to back and all had injury problems. Bennett and Wiggins were drafted back to back and both suck. Fultz was just drafted and he's terrible. #1 picks are cursed in general.

Review the #1 picks every 6th year from 2019 and find a pick that didn't bust.

BoardCrusher · Post #24 » by **BoardCrusher** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:12 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:There was a time people believed Embiid was cooked as well. Zion has gone 19 years in his life without a knee issue until he blew through his shoe.

I remember very well, he had knee issues in 2017 as a 16 year old.

Post #25 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:13 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Lmao.

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waiting for the draft sites to all start listing thigh gap in light of this breaking development....

PlatinumState · Post #26 » by **PlatinumState** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:15 pm

Benedict_Boozer wrote:Interesting. Is this “bro science” or legit?

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Its bruh science

Post #27 » by **Reeko** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:15 pm

Watch on YouTube

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Post #28 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:18 pm

BoardCrusher wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:There was a time people believed Embiid was cooked as well. Zion has gone 19 years in his life without a knee issue until he blew through his shoe.

I remember very well, he had knee issues in 2017 as a 16 year old.

That was a knee bruise, had zero to do with weight/knee bend or anything like that.

Durant Durant · Post #29 » by **Durant Durant** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:23 pm

Sabas11 · Post #30 » by **Sabas11** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:27 pm

Benedict_Boozer wrote:Interesting. Is this “bro science” or legit?

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If this turns out to be bogus, just follow the logical course of action and blame it on China

kodo · Post #31 » by **kodo** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:29 pm

This seems to be basing a lot on just 1 random Pels photo shoot.
His knees look perfectly straight there:

I don't think you need a special condition to be worried about the knees if you weigh 290 and play like Derrick Rose. He's an amazing specimen but should proactively manage his knees early.

Memgrizz0 · Post #32 » by **Memgrizz0** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:35 pm

Knosh wrote:Oh you scared me for a second, but I figured it out: The Zion picture is photoshopped. Here is the original:

As you can see there is no red stuff around his knees in reality. So he should be fine imo. Nothing to worry about

It’s the same photo. The red lines are throwing you off

Post #33 » by **Reeko** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:37 pm

kodo wrote:This seems to be basing a lot on just 1 random Pels photo shoot.
His knees look perfectly straight there:

I don't think you need a special condition to be worried about the knees if you weigh 290 and play like Derrick Rose. He's an amazing specimen but should proactively manage his knees early.

No, they don't. You can clearly see the valgus deviation in the left knee.

jayu70 · Post #34 » by **jayu70** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:41 pm

Knosh wrote:Oh you scared me for a second, but I figured it out: The Zion picture is photoshopped. Here is the original:

As you can see there is no red stuff around his knees in reality. So he should be fine imo. Nothing to worry about

I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did at this, but I did :lol:

macNcheese3 · Post #35 » by **macNcheese3** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:45 pm

cursedsportsfan wrote:How many Zion topics do we need...?

never too many

JonFromVA · Post #36 » by **JonFromVA** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:49 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:There was a time people believed Embiid was cooked as well. Zion has gone 19 years in his life without a knee issue until he blew through his shoe. I think the dude needs to cut off the excess weight, but I don't think all of a sudden his body will no longer be able to work the second he gets drafted into the NBA. Its not like he had a torn achilles or a Shaun Livingston kind of injury. I think it should be a big enough injury to get Zion and the Pels to focus on getting him in shape as priority #1. But a little premature to say his career is cooked.

Clearly anyone saying Embiid's career was cooked were just wrong, the question was how many years would he be healthy enough to help get a team to the playoffs then contribute in the playoffs; and whether it would be worth it.

Zion will return, but it's certainly fair to wonder whether he'll be able to stabilize and enjoy a long, healthy career.

Given Bill Walton back in the dark ages of sports medicine managed to hang in there another 8 seasons after his career was "cooked", the answer seems to be up to the player's willingness to endure rehab. Heck, Derrick Rose posted his career high in TS% for the TWolves last season. Maybe even Greg Oden would still be in the league if he didn't drink himself out of it.

Roland2000 · Post #37 » by **Roland2000** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:53 pm

kodo wrote:This seems to be basing a lot on just 1 random Pels photo shoot.
His knees look perfectly straight there:

I don't think you need a special condition to be worried about the knees if you weigh 290 and play like Derrick Rose. He's an amazing specimen but should proactively manage his knees early.

They don't look straight.

Post #38 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:54 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:There was a time people believed Embiid was cooked as well. Zion has gone 19 years in his life without a knee issue until he blew through his shoe. I think the dude needs to cut off the excess weight, but I don't think all of a sudden his body will no longer be able to work the second he gets drafted into the NBA. Its not like he had a torn achilles or a Shaun Livingston kind of injury. I think it should be a big enough injury to get Zion and the Pels to focus on getting him in shape as priority #1. But a little premature to say his career is cooked.

Clearly anyone saying Embiid's career was cooked were just wrong, the question was how many years would he be healthy enough to help get a team to the playoffs then contribute in the playoffs; and whether it would be worth it.

Zion will return, but it's certainly fair to wonder whether he'll be able to stabilize and enjoy a long, healthy career.

Given Bill Walton back in the dark ages of sports medicine managed to hang in there another 8 seasons after his career was "cooked", the answer seems to be up to the player's willingness to endure rehab. Heck, Derrick Rose posted his career high in TS% for the TWolves last season. Maybe even Greg Oden would still be in the league if he didn't drink himself out of it.

Which is very easy to say now. Its really not that long ago that the vast majority were saying his career was done. He had a bad back and bad feet, pretty much the two worst things a big can have. He couldn't even play his first 2 seasons and his first season he only played 31 games.

Bergmaniac · Post #39 » by **Bergmaniac** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:56 pm

I am always impressed by how many medical experts we have here on RealGM.

Mbrahv0528 · Post #40 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:57 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:There was a time people believed Embiid was cooked as well. Zion has gone 19 years in his life without a knee issue until he blew through his shoe. I think the dude needs to cut off the excess weight, but I don't think all of a sudden his body will no longer be able to work the second he gets drafted into the NBA. Its not like he had a torn achilles or a Shaun Livingston kind of injury. I think it should be a big enough injury to get Zion and the Pels to focus on getting him in shape as priority #1. But a little premature to say his career is cooked.

He's had knee issues since highschool.

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