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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#101 » by Klomp » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:07 pm

Stillwater wrote:The only way a lottery pick after the top 5 is considered a steal is to outplay 4 of the top 5 picked players

I feel like one of the best chances of this happening is Jarrett Culver. Maybe not this season, but over the course of his career.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#102 » by King Ken » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:17 pm

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Stillwater wrote:The only way a lottery pick after the top 5 is considered a steal is to outplay 4 of the top 5 picked players

I feel like one of the best chances of this happening is Jarrett Culver. Maybe not this season, but over the course of his career.

I think about 8 players have a chance. I think most of the lottery picks got a chance.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#103 » by Stillwater » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:25 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
nah, you had people here legit saying he was 'undraftable' and no a '1AD' player...

that's a different story. he can shoot it he can cut and his court vision is underrated , but for where he was picked I think it was about right not steal range. I mean maybe compared to Reddish who should of went 60th lol

You took this path with Trae Young and nearly died on the ledge. You want to jump fully off now?

lol I still don't like Trae Young's game beyond the passing, Iv'e gone over it forever...his release is easy to defend no matter how good he shoots it and he has no length to get better as a defender beyond against smaller 1's.
Reddish I have no confidence in for obvious reasons most of which are not core muscle excuse related as one could have hoped if they were an ATL fan otherwise he would be sidelined right now and he isnt
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If you are talking about my opinion of Herro I like him far more than I do Young or Reddish but that does not equate to thinking he was a steal at 13 when there were players taken after him that are better or will be... He is however a value pick at 13 considering he could have gone 10th and ATL would have been better for it. 8-)
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#104 » by King Ken » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 pm

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Stillwater wrote:that's a different story. he can shoot it he can cut and his court vision is underrated , but for where he was picked I think it was about right not steal range. I mean maybe compared to Reddish who should of went 60th lol

You took this path with Trae Young and nearly died on the ledge. You want to jump fully off now?

lol I still don't like Trae Young's game beyond the passing, Iv'e gone over it forever...his release is easy to defend no matter how good he shoots it and he has no length to get better as a defender beyond against smaller 1's.
Reddish I have no confidence in for obvious reasons most of which are not core muscle excuse related as one could have hoped if they were an ATL fan otherwise he would be sidelined right now and he isnt
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If you are talking about my opinion of Herro I like him far more than I do Young or Reddish but that does not equate to thinking he was a steal at 13 when there were players taken after him that are better or will be... He is however a value pick at 13 considering he could have gone 10th and ATL would have been better for it. 8-)

Blah blah blah you will be wrong again and changing the narrative again. Last year, he was Trey Burke and Jimmer. This year it's Cam is not a NBA player. You always take these bets and lose badly.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#105 » by Stillwater » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:27 pm

King Ken wrote:
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King Ken wrote:You took this path with Trae Young and nearly died on the ledge. You want to jump fully off now?

lol I still don't like Trae Young's game beyond the passing, Iv'e gone over it forever...his release is easy to defend no matter how good he shoots it and he has no length to get better as a defender beyond against smaller 1's.
Reddish I have no confidence in for obvious reasons most of which are not core muscle excuse related as one could have hoped if they were an ATL fan otherwise he would be sidelined right now and he isnt
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If you are talking about my opinion of Herro I like him far more than I do Young or Reddish but that does not equate to thinking he was a steal at 13 when there were players taken after him that are better or will be... He is however a value pick at 13 considering he could have gone 10th and ATL would have been better for it. 8-)

Blah blah blah you will be wrong again and changing the narrative again. Last year, he was Trey Burke and Jimmer. This year it's Cam is not a NBA player. You always take these bets and lose badly.

you dont have to get mad about it sheesh...
you have no chance of winning a championship with reddish and young as your stars.
i am far from wrong and you are clearly unable to see through your own biased bs.
i have zero vested interest in those players failures and would love for them to prove me wrong .they havent.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#106 » by eminence » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:22 am

Well I'm pretty happy with Edwards at #7 as of now, lol.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#107 » by peachbucket » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:21 pm

Tremont Waters with the 51st pick. Will be top 10 in a redraft 5 years from now...Bookmark it.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#108 » by Stillwater » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:57 pm

peachbucket wrote:Tremont Waters with the 51st pick. Will be top 10 in a redraft 5 years from now...Bookmark it.

kids got a ton of game but zero ability to defend on switches, I give him zero chance of being a top 10 player from this draft in 5 years. maybe top 20
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#109 » by HeadtopChunes » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:50 am

Thybulle has looked pretty great so far at least on defense.

He’s 4/13 from deep so far and hasn’t hit any from the corner yet.

I think he can be at least an average shooter and really great defender though.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#110 » by clyde21 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:24 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:Thybulle has looked pretty great so far at least on defense.

He’s 4/13 from deep so far and hasn’t hit any from the corner yet.

I think he can be at least an average shooter and really great defender though.


his D is already at an elite level, just incredible on that end.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#111 » by clyde21 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:24 am

assist #s still not there for him but he's killing it shooting the ball

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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#112 » by nolang1 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:27 pm

clyde21 wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:Thybulle has looked pretty great so far at least on defense.

He’s 4/13 from deep so far and hasn’t hit any from the corner yet.

I think he can be at least an average shooter and really great defender though.


his D is already at an elite level, just incredible on that end.


Yeah he's already one of the best defenders in the league. His overall impact will be worthy of an all-rookie nod (and maybe even ROY if Zion misses enough games) and if he gets left out that would be one of the clearest examples of the bias towards offense.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#113 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:26 am

NAW is ridiculous I definitely missed on this kid, way better than I thought
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#114 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:17 pm

King Ken wrote:I have 5 of them.

1. Cam Reddish - I strongly believe he can be the best player in this class and could be the best player in the NBA one day. My comparison for him is Jamal Crawford - scoring and creativity in space, Jodie Meeks movement ability, T-Mac body, size and fluidity, and PG13 defensive instinct and tools. Teams goofed up passing on him going to the team with great space.

2. Rui - Teams goofed up again. Explosiveness in tight space - check, big ass hands - check, forward skills with shooting touch - check. His defense needs work but the tools are there. He does disappear at times but he is so freakish, finding players to guard him is nearly impossible and you will just double him but guess what, he can move the rock too. Internet scouts overly scouted him and missed on his obvious gifts. Potential superstar.

3. Jaxson Hayes - Teams goofed up again. Explosiveness, speed, Odell hands, agility, 7ft, shooting touch and feel for the game. Man, passing on him was foolish. Easy mistake for those who did it. He is not there due to needing time in the gym but like Mo Bamba, you will regret passing on him in his prime. Griffin did his thing.

4. Herro - I underrated him for awhile till I saw the tape. His ass can shoot, is athletic, can handle with both hands, can really shoot it and got a crazy ass feel for the game. Miami got them one and he will wreck havoc in the east for along time once he adjust to the pace of the game and the quality of PGs in the NBA. He got easy gas, stats lied on this man, he got some sauce.

5. Cody White - He really gonna **** the league up something serious when his shot is right. He really like Arenas but got more PG skills and a better feel for being patience. 7-10 in this draft can change the league for the next 10-15 years.


I'm not trying to be a ass but I just can't take this seriously with the #1 selection, it feels like a op to fluff on Reddish. However you contridict yourself multiple times. If Reddish needed to go to the perfect situation to be successful then how are nine teams passing on him foolish? And how is somone who needs the perfect system to strive going to be the best player in the nba(and no, Steph and Leonard didn't need the right situation). In the Reddish thread you said he prob won't be a top option(during his struggles) yet he is "elite at creating for himself and will be a superstar?" I give you props for never wavering on his potential but honestly I would have expected similar praise afterwards no matter who they used their pick on.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#115 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:19 pm

As much as it hates me to say it I think Philly got a steal with Thybulle based off his defense alone, come playoff time his value will shoe tenfold.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#116 » by King Ken » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:58 pm

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King Ken wrote:I have 5 of them.

1. Cam Reddish - I strongly believe he can be the best player in this class and could be the best player in the NBA one day. My comparison for him is Jamal Crawford - scoring and creativity in space, Jodie Meeks movement ability, T-Mac body, size and fluidity, and PG13 defensive instinct and tools. Teams goofed up passing on him going to the team with great space.

2. Rui - Teams goofed up again. Explosiveness in tight space - check, big ass hands - check, forward skills with shooting touch - check. His defense needs work but the tools are there. He does disappear at times but he is so freakish, finding players to guard him is nearly impossible and you will just double him but guess what, he can move the rock too. Internet scouts overly scouted him and missed on his obvious gifts. Potential superstar.

3. Jaxson Hayes - Teams goofed up again. Explosiveness, speed, Odell hands, agility, 7ft, shooting touch and feel for the game. Man, passing on him was foolish. Easy mistake for those who did it. He is not there due to needing time in the gym but like Mo Bamba, you will regret passing on him in his prime. Griffin did his thing.

4. Herro - I underrated him for awhile till I saw the tape. His ass can shoot, is athletic, can handle with both hands, can really shoot it and got a crazy ass feel for the game. Miami got them one and he will wreck havoc in the east for along time once he adjust to the pace of the game and the quality of PGs in the NBA. He got easy gas, stats lied on this man, he got some sauce.

5. Cody White - He really gonna **** the league up something serious when his shot is right. He really like Arenas but got more PG skills and a better feel for being patience. 7-10 in this draft can change the league for the next 10-15 years.


I'm not trying to be a ass but I just can't take this seriously with the #1 selection, it feels like a op to fluff on Reddish. However you contridict yourself multiple times. If Reddish needed to go to the perfect situation to be successful then how are nine teams passing on him foolish? And how is somone who needs the perfect system to strive going to be the best player in the nba(and no, Steph and Leonard didn't need the right situation). In the Reddish thread you said he prob won't be a top option(during his struggles) yet he is "elite at creating for himself and will be a superstar?" I give you props for never wavering on his potential but honestly I would have expected similar praise afterwards no matter who they used their pick on.

As soon as I saw this in bolded, I knew some bull was coming right after.

There are GM's, players, coaches, smart people like myself who think Cam will be the best player in this class at some point. Just because you don't doesn't make whatever the heck you have to say true.

You can go to the Cam Reddish thread and see I was all in on Cam Reddish for awhile. I always had him as a top 5 prospect in this class. There are a lot of people all in on Cam Reddish. Many coaches in particular. Guys like you irk the **** outta me. Just say your peace of your players and move on. Why do you feel the need to challenge someone when this is an opinion type of thread where everyone is entitled to their opinions?
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#117 » by King Ken » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:59 pm

clyde21 wrote:NAW is ridiculous I definitely missed on this kid, way better than I thought

His summer league looked really good but his preseason didn't look worse, it looked better. Even players in the org just keep talking about him like Zion for example.
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#118 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:37 pm

Terence Davis has definitely been a steal so far,

He’s a first round talent that the Raptors picked up undrafted

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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#119 » by King Ken » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:45 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:Terence Davis has definitely been a steal so far,

He’s a first round talent that the Raptors picked up undrafted


If you look at my chart. He got high reviews from me
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Re: Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft? 

Post#120 » by clyde21 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55 am

monster game by Ja tonight...30/4/9 with a couple of huge defensive plays too
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