Around the League - 2019-2020

Post #201 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:26 am

snoopdogg88 wrote:looking at the box score, I did not realize the Warriors roster was that bad this year. sheesh.

literally all they have is D'Lo, Steph, and Dray

The hard cap from S&Ting for Russell has really screwed them this year. Had to fill their roster out with castaways and they can't even add a 15th player.

They'll be a lot better next year without that restriction and then obviously with Klay coming back.

Kobblehead · Post #202 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:28 am

The Clippers are the team with ridiculous depth, to me. They got a fringe all-star that can flirt with 25 a night as a 6th man.

Kobblehead · Post #203 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:30 am

Will the Warriors still attract free agents or are they viewed as a played out wave, in the eyes of players?

Post #204 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:36 am

Kobblehead wrote:Will the Warriors still attract free agents or are they viewed as a played out wave, in the eyes of players?

Not sure, it's interesting, personally I view Curry as the Duncan of this generation, just seems like the best star to have as the bedrock of your franchise from a culture standpoint. But you hear players sort of talk crap about him from time to time.

Then again I'm sure the Chase Center is ridiculous and they're in SF/tech which I'm sure a lot of people are into.

Post #205 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:42 am

Kobblehead wrote:The Clippers are the team with ridiculous depth, to me. They got a fringe all-star that can flirt with 25 a night as a 6th man.

Lou plays as much as anyone on the team, he's their 2nd/3rd option. Very questionable playoff track record also.

snoopdogg88 · Post #206 » by **snoopdogg88** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:23 am

i was just in SF last week, and god damn the Bay Area is absolutely gorgeous. and on top of that, the Chase Center is the new standard for arenas. if I was a millionaire basketball player, I'd want to be there.

Kobblehead · Post #207 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:09 am

Zubac with 16 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks in 18 minutes. We actually had people questioning the Zubac/Harrell C pairing lol.

Clippers are freaking loaded.

Post #208 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:12 am

Did you see who the Warriors were throwing out there at center? Doc knows he's unplayable in any real matchup see how much pine he rode in the Laker game. Even the Lakers play some minimum contract guys at center for some reason.

Clips are definitely deep though otherwise.

Wilfried · Post #209 » by **Wilfried** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:37 am

Kobblehead wrote:Zubac with 16 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks in 18 minutes. We actually had people questioning the Zubac/Harrell C pairing lol.

Clippers are freaking loaded.

Warriors are probably the 1 team smaller than the Clippers.

But Clippers are the best team in the NBA for me, the favorite. They are deep and have the best duo (no matter what Lakers think they have).

But interested what Zubac could do against Embiid/Horford. Don't think that much

LloydFree · Post #210 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:10 am

Kobblehead wrote:Zubac with 16 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks in 18 minutes. We actually had people questioning the Zubac/Harrell C pairing lol.

Clippers are freaking loaded.

Zubac is garbage.

LloydFree · Post #211 » by **LloydFree** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:13 am

Sixerscan wrote:Did you see who the Warriors were throwing out there at center? Doc knows he's unplayable in any real matchup see how much pine he rode in the Laker game. Even the Lakers play some minimum contract guys at center for some reason.

Clips are definitely deep though otherwise.

Exactly. Against anybody with an NBA Center, Zubac is a 10 mpg player. I don't even know why they go through the charade of starting for 3 minutes.

ProcessDoctor · Post #212 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:26 pm

Clippers are the team to beat. They’re going to be scar AF when PG gets back.

VDT · Post #213 » by **VDT** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:53 pm

I am not scared of the Clippers right now.

If they can get a big that can slow down Embiid however they could be hard to beat.

Ericb5 · Post #214 » by **Ericb5** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:39 pm

What happened to JR Smith?

Is he retired, or on a roster somewhere? He seems like a low risk bench shooter for us.

Kobblehead · Post #215 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:00 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Clippers are the team to beat. They’re going to be scar AF when PG gets back.

There were people on this board questioning their perimeter defense (which is nearly perfect), questioning their bigman rotation (which is the most productive per-minutes scoring rotation in the NBA), and questioning their depth (they're the deepest team in the NBA). So many terrible takes regarding the Clippers. If anyone even takes them to 6 in a playoff series this year, that's a huge achievement.

Kobblehead · Post #216 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:08 pm

VDT wrote:I am not scared of the Clippers right now.

If they can get a big that can slow down Embiid however they could be hard to beat.

Seems either brash or naive to not be scared of the Clippers right now.

And why are we still attaching this mythos to Embiid as if a bigman can make a difference in a playoff series? We just watched the Celtics slow down Embiid with Enes Kanter and Daniel Theis as their two centers. They just threw a double at him everytime he got the ball in the post and he either turned it over or deferred the possession to one of the other 4 guys. Eventually he got so frustrated, he backed out to the perimeter and shot deep bricks the entire night. That's how easy it is to contain/frustrate a bigman. That's the same thing that's going to happen in the playoffs.

Kobblehead · Post #217 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:23 pm

Ericb5 wrote:What happened to JR Smith?

Is he retired, or on a roster somewhere? He seems like a low risk bench shooter for us.

He could probably still play 10 minutes somewhere, but at 34, his quirkiness outweighs his production at too large a disparity. He seemed to have slowed down pretty significantly at the end of that Cavs run, too.

Post #218 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
VDT wrote:I am not scared of the Clippers right now.

If they can get a big that can slow down Embiid however they could be hard to beat.

Seems either brash or naive to not be scared of the Clippers right now.

And why are we still attaching this mythos to Embiid as if a bigman can make a difference in a playoff series? We just watched the Celtics slow down Embiid with Enes Kanter and Daniel Theis as their two centers. They just threw a double at him everytime he got the ball in the post and he either turned it over or deferred the possession to one of the other 4 guys. Eventually he got so frustrated, he backed out to the perimeter and shot deep bricks the entire night. That's how easy it is to contain/frustrate a bigman. That's the same thing that's going to happen in the playoffs.

Scared? It’s sports. They’re clearly a really good team, so are the Sixers, I’m excited to see the teams compete. In a league where almost everyone plays the exact same way it’s always fun to see how two teams with different strengths and weaknesses match up.

The Celtics built their entire game plan around doubling Embiid, and he still had 15 points in only 23 minutes despite missing a bunch of FTs. (He shot a bad % but a lot of those were oboards).If teams want to do that they’ll have to deal with the fall out of other guys getting favorable matchups and hopefully hitting more open shots.

VDT · Post #219 » by **VDT** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:09 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
VDT wrote:I am not scared of the Clippers right now.

If they can get a big that can slow down Embiid however they could be hard to beat.

Seems either brash or naive to not be scared of the Clippers right now.

And why are we still attaching this mythos to Embiid as if a bigman can make a difference in a playoff series? We just watched the Celtics slow down Embiid with Enes Kanter and Daniel Theis as their two centers. They just threw a double at him everytime he got the ball in the post and he either turned it over or deferred the possession to one of the other 4 guys. Eventually he got so frustrated, he backed out to the perimeter and shot deep bricks the entire night. That's how easy it is to contain/frustrate a bigman. That's the same thing that's going to happen in the playoffs.

Judging based on one game is bound to lead to wrong conclusions. Last year Embiid was also bad in the opening game against Boston and in the end averaged 29/15 over the year against them. Especially since he was obviously rusty since he hasnt trained much in the summer. If he had hit a couple of his jumpers and had the usual FT percentage he would had 21 points in 23 minutes which is excellent.

The Celtics defended him was gimmicky, having a player abandon his man to double team Embiid should in principle lead to an open shot, which is how Embiid got his assists. If the team cant exploit a double team it is more of a coaching issue than a systemic problem imo. It is true that the Sixers have struggled in the past with that due to the lack of shooting and Brown not having a more structured offense. However if you can t exploit a double team there are not many offensive schemes you can run as a team.

It is hard to say at the moment how much of a problem this will be. In principle this will be the first year that Embiid will be playing with 4 shooters when Simmons sits so we will have to wait a couple of months to see.

If anything worries me with Embiid is his health, he was still rehabbing during the summer, and him not using hook shots which are the go to moves for post players and would allow him to score much easier against less athletic players like Gasol.

snoopdogg88 · Post #220 » by **snoopdogg88** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:42 pm

I’m 95% convinced the Clippers have another move left in them to get Adams or some improvement at center.

Then they’ll be terrifying.