Political Roundtable Part XXVII

Post #61 » by **montestewart** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:54 pm

And y'all don't forget this adorable critter, which I find offensive.

Post #62 » by **montestewart** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:18 pm

3 in a row, but re doxxing: I know exactly who a lot of posters here are, and have met some of you at games and elsewhere (always have enjoyed meeting posters).

Posters may offer revealing information in profiles or have information posted elsewhere (like-named twitter accounts, etc.). Let's leave it to the individual poster to decide what personal information to share in posts and allow everyone to keep their chosen level of anonymity on the Wiz board.

If my day job ever found out I was a moderator on this board, I'd be fired. PIF is a famous but anonymous poet. We have to look out for each other.

Pointgod · Post #63 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:47 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Tulsi Gabbard love her some Fox News all of a sudden. Russian asset probably not, but Republican stooge for sure. Good that she won't run for reelection. She won't win. Sheep's clothing is off, and now she's just angling to be the next Fox News bimbo.

How can someone so cluelessly torpedo their own career?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7wqk/how-tulsi-gabbard-hacked-the-right-wing-media-feedback-loop

JWizmentality · Post #64 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:59 pm

Pointgod wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Tulsi Gabbard love her some Fox News all of a sudden. Russian asset probably not, but Republican stooge for sure. Good that she won't run for reelection. She won't win. Sheep's clothing is off, and now she's just angling to be the next Fox News bimbo.

How can someone so cluelessly torpedo their own career?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7wqk/how-tulsi-gabbard-hacked-the-right-wing-media-feedback-loop

Actually her running as a third party candidate would hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee. She's a fav of the right wing now and would pull those not wanting to vote for Trump. No true blue democrat or progressive is buying her shtick. She knows she killed electability in Hawaii which is why she is not running again, so now she's just setting up her career post presidential run as the new Palin.

JWizmentality · Post #65 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:01 pm

montestewart wrote:And y'all don't forget this adorable critter, which I find offensive.

I see what you did there.

How dare

Pointgod · Post #66 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:02 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Tulsi Gabbard love her some Fox News all of a sudden. Russian asset probably not, but Republican stooge for sure. Good that she won't run for reelection. She won't win. Sheep's clothing is off, and now she's just angling to be the next Fox News bimbo.

How can someone so cluelessly torpedo their own career?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7wqk/how-tulsi-gabbard-hacked-the-right-wing-media-feedback-loop

Actually her running as a third party candidate would hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee. She's a fav of the right wing now and would pull those not wanting to vote for Trump. No true blue democrat or progressive is buying her shtick. She knows she killed electability in Hawaii which is why she is not running again, so now she's just setting up her career post presidential run as the new Palin.

Naw. No Republicans are leaving Trump vote for Gabbard as long as there’s a D beside her name. She would get the anti war, clueless Progressive crowd or people pouting because their candidate didn’t get the nom (see Bernie supporters)

daoneandonly · Post #67 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:16 pm

Pointgod wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
How can someone so cluelessly torpedo their own career?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7wqk/how-tulsi-gabbard-hacked-the-right-wing-media-feedback-loop

Actually her running as a third party candidate would hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee. She's a fav of the right wing now and would pull those not wanting to vote for Trump. No true blue democrat or progressive is buying her shtick. She knows she killed electability in Hawaii which is why she is not running again, so now she's just setting up her career post presidential run as the new Palin.

Naw. No Republicans are leaving Trump vote for Gabbard as long as there’s a D beside her name. She would get the anti war, clueless Progressive crowd or people pouting because their candidate didn’t get the nom (see Bernie supporters)

Hopefully this is true, as it should be. In an ideal world, Trump wont even be the nom. He'd be impeached, and Pence or Ryan would be the Republican candidate

Post #68 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:38 pm

This is so absurdly obvious obstruction of justice: https://www.yahoo.com/news/read-trump-administrations-warning-letter-122430883.html

It's not just Trump that's at fault there - though obviously he is at fault and this is an impeachable offense times the amount of times a similar letter was sent - but whatever lawyers who approved the letter should be immediately disbarred. There has to be consequences for this obvious disregard for the law - not just at the top but also at every level that participates.

Honestly, impeachment and removal from Presidency is not nearly enough. Trump should spend the rest of his unnatural life in jail. Otherwise, there's certainly going to be another Trump.

JWizmentality · Post #69 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:16 pm

Pointgod wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
How can someone so cluelessly torpedo their own career?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7wqk/how-tulsi-gabbard-hacked-the-right-wing-media-feedback-loop

Actually her running as a third party candidate would hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee. She's a fav of the right wing now and would pull those not wanting to vote for Trump. No true blue democrat or progressive is buying her shtick. She knows she killed electability in Hawaii which is why she is not running again, so now she's just setting up her career post presidential run as the new Palin.

Naw. No Republicans are leaving Trump vote for Gabbard as long as there’s a D beside her name. She would get the anti war, clueless Progressive crowd or people pouting because their candidate didn’t get the nom (see Bernie supporters)

No. I disagree. Unlike the GOP base. Progressives are highly educated. I knew Jill Stein was going to be an issue because she had a lot of policies that resonated with Progressives and with what the DNC did to Bernie, the writing was on the wall. Just because she supported Bernie and says a lot of pretty words don't mean squat. Actions speak louder than words. No progressive is buying the milk she's selling.

JWizmentality · Post #70 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:17 pm

Ruzious wrote:This is so absurdly obvious obstruction of justice: https://www.yahoo.com/news/read-trump-administrations-warning-letter-122430883.html

It's not just Trump that's at fault there - though obviously he is at fault and this is an impeachable offense times the amount of times a similar letter was sent - but whatever lawyers who approved the letter should be immediately disbarred. There has to be consequences for this obvious disregard for the law - not just at the top but also at every level that participates.

Honestly, impeachment and removal from Presidency is not nearly enough. Trump should spend the rest of his unnatural life in jail. Otherwise, there's certainly going to be another Trump.

And her lawyer promptly gave it the same treatment Erdogan gave to Trump's warning letter. :lol:

Man the DOJ is straight garbage now. Will be years to return that agency to respectability again.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #71 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:21 pm

JWizmentality wrote:No. I disagree. Unlike the GOP base. Progressives are highly educated. I knew Jill Stein was going to be an issue because she had a lot of policies that resonated with Progressives and with what the DNC did to Bernie, the writing was on the wall. Just because she supported Bernie and says a lot of pretty words don't mean squat. Actions speak louder than words. No progressive is buying the milk she's selling.

Highly educated doesn't mean smart or aware. There are plenty of examples of such people out there and a lot of them are supporting Bernie right now. It wouldn't be a huge number of people that were fooled but it wouldn't have to be a huge number. Just some small numbers of votes here and there in the right places can make a difference.

JWizmentality · Post #72 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:32 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:No. I disagree. Unlike the GOP base. Progressives are highly educated. I knew Jill Stein was going to be an issue because she had a lot of policies that resonated with Progressives and with what the DNC did to Bernie, the writing was on the wall. Just because she supported Bernie and says a lot of pretty words don't mean squat. Actions speak louder than words. No progressive is buying the milk she's selling.

Highly educated doesn't mean smart or aware. There are plenty of examples of such people out there and a lot of them are supporting Bernie right now. It wouldn't be a huge number of people that were fooled but it wouldn't have to be a huge number. Just some small numbers of votes here and there in the right places can make a difference.

Haven't see anything in her polling that suggests this. Her numbers have tanked in progressive Hawaii which is why she's not seeking re-election. Her primary challenger would've crushed her. All I've seen is a bunch of old white conservatives swooning over her. If she wanted to be incognito, she should've delayed her Hannity and Tucker Carlson specials. I'm not saying a majority of Americans aren't politically ignorant, but they are sure as hell more aware than they were in 2016.

daoneandonly · Post #73 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:40 pm

Highly educated doesn't really coincide with arguing jobs that can be performed by kiosks making 50K a year. Encouraging complacency by doubling the minimum wage is illogical

I_Like_Dirt · Post #74 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:38 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Haven't see anything in her polling that suggests this. Her numbers have tanked in progressive Hawaii which is why she's not seeking re-election. Her primary challenger would've crushed her. All I've seen is a bunch of old white conservatives swooning over her. If she wanted to be incognito, she should've delayed her Hannity and Tucker Carlson specials. I'm not saying a majority of Americans aren't politically ignorant, but they are sure as hell more aware than they were in 2016.

Nobody is arguing that she's remotely electable. That's not the point. Of course Conservatives are going to swoon over her. They aren't going to vote for her. She doesn't actually need to get that many Democrat protest votes in any particular place in order to help them.

JWizmentality · Post #75 » by **JWizmentality** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:49 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Haven't see anything in her polling that suggests this. Her numbers have tanked in progressive Hawaii which is why she's not seeking re-election. Her primary challenger would've crushed her. All I've seen is a bunch of old white conservatives swooning over her. If she wanted to be incognito, she should've delayed her Hannity and Tucker Carlson specials. I'm not saying a majority of Americans aren't politically ignorant, but they are sure as hell more aware than they were in 2016.

Nobody is arguing that she's remotely electable. That's not the point. Of course Conservatives are going to swoon over her. They aren't going to vote for her. She doesn't actually need to get that many Democrat protest votes in any particular place in order to help them.

Conservatives are more cultish, I'll give you that.

Post #76 » by **Zonkerbl** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:50 pm

You guys just don't know how to enjoy this thread. I can make mouth breathers like daone melt down completely with two posts. Get on my level.

daoneandonly · Post #77 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:07 pm

You think too highly of yourself. You're older than most of my aunts & uncles, so i hold back since you're a senior citizen

payitforward · Post #78 » by **payitforward** » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:26 pm

God this thread is a nightmare.... Was it always like this?

Post #79 » by **montestewart** » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:08 am

Here comes PIF, hide all the good posts!

dobrojim · Post #80 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:13 pm

https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-conflicts-of-interest-tracking/?fbclid=IwAR2wYFaq6IAi-eku9acTeAd3yEARAMl0Zr3KPwyrme4sI2RnGEpEFlmejI4

The most ethical of the four. Can there be any question about this? I think not. Definitely most ethical.

Since day one of the Trump administration, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) has been tracking the conflicts of interest that stem from the president’s decision not to divest from the Trump Organization. They fall into five broad categories:

Visits to Trump properties by foreign government officials, members of Congress, state government officials, and Trump administration officials, including Trump himself.

Events that political organizations, foreign governments and foreign government-linked groups, and special-interest groups hold at Trump properties, possibly to buy access to and curry favor with the Trump administration.

Instances in which President Trump and other White House officials have used their platform to publicly promote Trump Organization properties by mentioning or referencing them in official statements or on social media.

Trademarks to Trump businesses given final or preliminary approval by foreign countries since President Trump entered the White House.

Other interactions between foreign or domestic governments and the Trump Organization that defy categorization. Examples range from the president ordering his Bedminster, NJ golf club to give certain administration officials an exclusive discount to a former EPA Administrator trying to buy a mattress from the Trump Hotel in Washington.