2019-20 NBA Season Discussion

[Texas Chuck]

really D-Lo is an absolutely terrible fit on this team.

Put me clearly in the camp of those who believe he was signed specifically to be traded. I think they knew he wasn't a fit, but I think they believed they can turn him into some useful pieces.

[Basileus777]

Maybe the Warriors should just run a ton of pick and roll. What's the point to sticking to a philosophy that doesn't fit your roster anymore. If Kerr can't adapt then he's just not a top tier coach. The only offensive players they have that are worth anything are Curry, DLO, and Green. And guess what, they're all great PNR players. This isn't a stacked team that has the luxury of picking a style based on a coach's philosophy, they need to squeeze every bit of offense out of what they have.

[Dupp]

really D-Lo is an absolutely terrible fit on this team.

Put me clearly in the camp of those who believe he was signed specifically to be traded. I think they knew he wasn't a fit, but I think they believed they can turn him into some useful pieces.

Like Roco, who would be great. Add klay back in and that’s a real strong core.

[Basileus777]

really D-Lo is an absolutely terrible fit on this team.

Put me clearly in the camp of those who believe he was signed specifically to be traded. I think they knew he wasn't a fit, but I think they believed they can turn him into some useful pieces.

I think they knew they desperately needed offensive talent after what happened in those finals after Klay went down. DLO might not be a long term solution, but I'm sure they made that trade knowing they couldn't go into this season without another scorer or creator next to Curry.

[Texas Chuck]

really D-Lo is an absolutely terrible fit on this team.

Put me clearly in the camp of those who believe he was signed specifically to be traded. I think they knew he wasn't a fit, but I think they believed they can turn him into some useful pieces.

I think they knew they desperately needed offensive talent after what happened in those finals after Klay went down. DLO might not be a long term solution, but I'm sure they made that trade knowing they couldn't go into this season without another scorer or creator next to Curry.

Fair point as well.

[clyde21]

Maybe the Warriors should just run a ton of pick and roll. What's the point to sticking to a philosophy that doesn't fit your roster anymore. If Kerr can't adapt then he's just not a top tier coach. The only offensive players they have that are worth anything are Curry, DLO, and Green. And guess what, they're all great PNR players. This isn't a stacked team that has the luxury of picking a style based on a coach's philosophy, they need to squeeze every bit of offense out of what they have.

so we should change everything that has made this team successful because of DLo?

really the problem is Myers here, absolute piss poor job of team construction on multiple levels, lack of foresight and thinking DLo is a good fit on this roster/scheme...

[Basileus777]

Maybe the Warriors should just run a ton of pick and roll. What's the point to sticking to a philosophy that doesn't fit your roster anymore. If Kerr can't adapt then he's just not a top tier coach. The only offensive players they have that are worth anything are Curry, DLO, and Green. And guess what, they're all great PNR players. This isn't a stacked team that has the luxury of picking a style based on a coach's philosophy, they need to squeeze every bit of offense out of what they have.

so we should change everything that has made this team successful because of DLo?

really the problem is Myers here, absolute piss poor job of team construction on multiple levels, lack of foresight and thinking DLo is a good fit on this roster/scheme...

Not just DLO. It fits Curry and Green as well. And with a team full of young players, a simpler offense even makes more sense.

[Dr Spaceman]

Maybe the Warriors should just run a ton of pick and roll. What's the point to sticking to a philosophy that doesn't fit your roster anymore. If Kerr can't adapt then he's just not a top tier coach. The only offensive players they have that are worth anything are Curry, DLO, and Green. And guess what, they're all great PNR players. This isn't a stacked team that has the luxury of picking a style based on a coach's philosophy, they need to squeeze every bit of offense out of what they have.

so we should change everything that has made this team successful because of DLo?

really the problem is Myers here, absolute piss poor job of team construction on multiple levels, lack of foresight and thinking DLo is a good fit on this roster/scheme...

Yeah.

Did you watch the game last night? The young guys have no clue what they’re doing out there. Iggy, Bogut and Shaun knew how to screen and pass and cut and grease the wheels. This supporting cast of young low IQ players is never going to get to that level of chemistry and execution.

[eminence]

Hmm, I doubt too many of the Warriors problems will be offensive this season, they could benefit from simplifying the offense a bit, but not a huge rush imo, try to see who can fit in for the hypothetical Klay return to start the season, see how it goes. Get the center rotation healthy, think they'll be fine.

[Peregrine01]

I agree that a spread offense while spamming high pick and roll makes the most sense for these Dubs. All these young players are new and have no idea what they’re running out there.

Kerr seems to be very principle driven but at some point he needs to be more practical. You have maybe the best pick and roll tandem in the league in Steph/Dray plus another guy you traded for who has only known playing pick and roll. Simplify it. The Dantoni Rockets had no where near the variety of attacks on offense but has routinely produced some of the best offenses year in and year out by sticking to something simple.

[clyde21]

Maybe the Warriors should just run a ton of pick and roll. What's the point to sticking to a philosophy that doesn't fit your roster anymore. If Kerr can't adapt then he's just not a top tier coach. The only offensive players they have that are worth anything are Curry, DLO, and Green. And guess what, they're all great PNR players. This isn't a stacked team that has the luxury of picking a style based on a coach's philosophy, they need to squeeze every bit of offense out of what they have.

so we should change everything that has made this team successful because of DLo?

really the problem is Myers here, absolute piss poor job of team construction on multiple levels, lack of foresight and thinking DLo is a good fit on this roster/scheme...

Yeah.

Did you watch the game last night? The young guys have no clue what they’re doing out there. Iggy, Bogut and Shaun knew how to screen and pass and cut and grease the wheels. This supporting cast of young low IQ players is never going to get to that level of chemistry and execution.

lol, we're not gonna change what Steph, Green, and Klay do best because of Eric Paschall and Glen **** Robinson

really this was a massive, massive failure at the management and team construction level. i saw it from a mile away.

[Eskobar13]

I understand what most people here are saying about playing more pnr and Kerr will take a huge hit IMO if he's not willing to at least try something different, however, people seem to forget that the pnr being a "two man game" is a bit of a fallacy and bad players around Curry/Green/Russell will still be bad.

It's only a two man game if the 3 guys around you force the defense to pay attention to them. It's only so beneficial if those same 3 guys can punish the defense when they don't.

I already knew this team wouldn't really be good but I thought they'd make the playoffs, I bought into the "Curry's too good for that" narrative, but honestly... I don't know. I've hardly seen a bunch of dudes more unable to capitalize on advantageous situations than the Warriors wings and bigs last night. The amount of times Curry was basically triple teamed (also some doubles on DAR), swung the ball and one of the roll-players was just freezing not knowing what to do with it was appalling.

Role-players not having the ability to shoot, pass, cut or screen to finish plays or taking advantage of 4-3/3-2 situations isn't going to change just because you play a different style.

It shouldn't always be as bad last night and somehow they actually had a great ORTG, but damn, it just doesn't feel like these guys can score enough if Curry isn't hot and the defense is hardly ever going to be better than bad.

[Dr Spaceman]

so we should change everything that has made this team successful because of DLo?

really the problem is Myers here, absolute piss poor job of team construction on multiple levels, lack of foresight and thinking DLo is a good fit on this roster/scheme...

Yeah.

Did you watch the game last night? The young guys have no clue what they’re doing out there. Iggy, Bogut and Shaun knew how to screen and pass and cut and grease the wheels. This supporting cast of young low IQ players is never going to get to that level of chemistry and execution.

lol, we're not gonna change what Steph, Green, and Klay do best because of Eric Paschall and Glen **** Robinson

really this was a massive, massive failure at the management and team construction level. i saw it from a mile away.

I don’t even know what I’m doing here, all last year you’re favorite talking point was how Kerr needs to put the ball in Curry’s hands and run pick and roll and now you just think the opposite?

Regardless, the Warriors managed to acquire a fringe all-star level player and that move hard-capped them. DLo was easily the single best player they had a shot at acquiring and considering that I have a hard time seeing the massive failure. What can you really do when your only options are guys who make less than the minimum?

[clyde21]

Yeah.

Did you watch the game last night? The young guys have no clue what they’re doing out there. Iggy, Bogut and Shaun knew how to screen and pass and cut and grease the wheels. This supporting cast of young low IQ players is never going to get to that level of chemistry and execution.

lol, we're not gonna change what Steph, Green, and Klay do best because of Eric Paschall and Glen **** Robinson

really this was a massive, massive failure at the management and team construction level. i saw it from a mile away.

I don’t even know what I’m doing here, all last year you’re favorite talking point was how Kerr needs to put the ball in Curry’s hands and run pick and roll and now you just think the opposite?

Regardless, the Warriors managed to acquire a fringe all-star level player and that move hard-capped them. DLo was easily the single best player they had a shot at acquiring and considering that I have a hard time seeing the massive failure. What can you really do when your only options are guys who make less than the minimum?

just because I thought he needed to put the ball more in Curry's hands doesn't mean I think we should abandon our ball and player movement offense and just run ISOs and PnRs all game...there's a huge area in between...

and again, i'm not absolving Kerr of anything here, I am not a big fan of his, but the situation we're in today is more on the front office (Myers) than it is on what Kerr can or can't do with this roster...changing everything we've built over the last 5 years in terms of system already 1 game in for a bunch of no-name G-league players isn't the best idea

maybe now you know what you're doing here

[Joey Wheeler]

I'd bet on the Warriors missing the playoffs. Just not enough offense to win consistently and the defense isn't good either. Curry's offense relies on having other guys take advantage of the space he creates with the threat of his shooting ability and those guys just aren't there, he's not a Westbrook or Harden who can absorb a massive load every night for 82 games and take a team to the playoffs.

Honestly if one of Curry or Draymond miss any significant time, this team could potentially bottom out pretty badly. If they stay fit, I think hovering slightly above 50% is their best case scenario and it's contingent on Curry having a big scoring season, which he's certainly capable of, and that's probably not enough for playoffs in the West.

[ShotCreator]

Towns looks pretty ridiculous as a DHO big.

[clyde21]

Towns is insane...i said this in the MVP predictions thread, he's my dark horse, he'll get some MVP nods this year depending on how many Ws he gets

[eminence]

What an absolutely atrocious half of offensive basketball.

[GSP]

This Suns defense looks for real......They were the 2nd worst defense last year. No way they can make a jump into average territory right?

Rubio/Baynes are obviously big upgrades defensively but they have alot of defenders outside them. Oubre obviously and their bench is honestly loaded defensively.

[ahmetmekin]

What an absolutely atrocious half of offensive basketball.

Really ugly basketball.