So why is Jayson Tatum held to such a high standard on this forum?

Tracymcgoaty · Post #1 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:12 am

Im trying to figure out why Tatum is touted as this next superstar in the making by some all based on a really good playoff performance 2 seasons ago. What has he accomplished since then to be still be given such high standards?

Imon · Post #2 » by **Imon** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:14 am

Boston bias + that good playoff run without Kyrie.

thebigbird · Post #3 » by **thebigbird** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:17 am

Because he showed a lot of promise in the 2018 playoffs, particularly against LeBron and the Cavs. It led to people expecting a huge sophomore leap, but that didn't materialize. Now with kyrie gone we will see which Tatum is the real one.

itrsteve · Post #4 » by **itrsteve** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:19 am

Good, a new day and a new “trash the Celtics” thread.

Miserable souls.

Barnzy · Post #5 » by **Barnzy** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:19 am

Because ESPN is promoting him as a superstar talent every 5mins.

It's called propoganda. Reality is something different.

ajones9219 · Post #6 » by **ajones9219** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:21 am

Because of his elite size and talent mostly

WeLikeOurGuys · Post #7 » by **WeLikeOurGuys** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:23 am

He’s not.

He constantly gets bashed for being overrated on this forum. Stop making Celtics Threads it’s getting old.

life_saver · Post #8 » by **life_saver** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:24 am

I think it's mainly due Boston's 2017-18 playoffs run...they were considered underdogs due to injuries to Kyrie, Gordon but they ended the post season with just 1 game away from reaching finals. Tatum, despite being a rookie, was pretty good in that post season which isn't a common thing for rookies. So, people only expected him to become better as his career goes on but looks like he has regressed since last season onwards

VDT · Post #9 » by **VDT** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:25 am

He is overrated but i dont think many people, apart from maybe Celtics fans, think he is a future superstar.

Black Mage · Post #10 » by **Black Mage** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:27 am

Shows OP's lack of knowledge about Tatum and probably why he shouldn't have made this thread until he did some research.

Tatum had an amazing rookie season which many didn't expect. He had appeared to correct a lot of his short comings seen in college. His 3% pt was elevated, he was deadly taking the ball to the rim and finishing or getting fouled. He also played defense better than expected.

This growth over just a couple of months between college to the pros made everyone reasonably believe and expect that he'd continue to develop at a rapid pace.

Also, there was a flood of snide and snarky Celtics fans ragging about how Ainge "KNEW" what would happen to Fultz and how he stole Tatum, blah blah, blah. So now they have to eat crow and there's a lot of folks lined up to shovel it down.

Ice Trae · Post #11 » by **Ice Trae** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:30 am

He hasn't been held in high regard for like a year already. He's already painted as a typical black hole chucker on this board.

Post #12 » by **bisme37** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:30 am

He just had 25/9/4/3... last night! He was the C's leading scorer at 23ppg over the first two games. He had an off game tonight but still had 15 and 9 and the Celtics won by 23. Threads like this flat out suck, man.

everdiso · Post #13 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:32 am

ajones9219 wrote:Because of his elite size and talent mostly

6'8", 6'11" wingspan is not elite size.

Also doesn't have elite handles or shooting or playmaking or defense....or even really close, tbh.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #14 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:37 am

bisme37 wrote:He just had 25/9/4/3... last night! He was the C's leading scorer at 23ppg over the first two games. He had an off game tonight but still had 15 and 9 and the Celtics won by 23. Threads like this flat out suck, man.

Didn't say he sucked did i? I said why are people calling him the next superstar? Im not out bash Tatum i always see him and BI comparisons and i wanted to know why Tatum is held to a much higher standard than Ingram is.

ajones9219 · Post #15 » by **ajones9219** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:40 am

everdiso wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Because of his elite size and talent mostly

6'8", 6'11" wingspan is not elite size.

Also doesn't have elite handles or shooting or playmaking or defense....or even really close, tbh.

It is for a 3. And he is an excellent ball handler, shooter and very good defender. His main weakness is sometimes decision making but he clearly has the tools to be an all nba type guy

HeartBreakKid · Post #16 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:42 am

Black Mage wrote:Shows OP's lack of knowledge about Tatum and probably why he shouldn't have made this thread until he did some research.

Tatum had an amazing rookie season which many didn't expect. He had appeared to correct a lot of his short comings seen in college. His 3% pt was elevated, he was deadly taking the ball to the rim and finishing or getting fouled. He also played defense better than expected.

This growth over just a couple of months between college to the pros made everyone reasonably believe and expect that he'd continue to develop at a rapid pace.

Also, there was a flood of snide and snarky Celtics fans ragging about how Ainge "KNEW" what would happen to Fultz and how he stole Tatum, blah blah, blah. So now they have to eat crow and there's a lot of folks lined up to shovel it down.

What's there to eat crow about? Even if nothing changes, Tatum is a better pick than Fultz.

Black Mage · Post #17 » by **Black Mage** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:46 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:
Black Mage wrote:Shows OP's lack of knowledge about Tatum and probably why he shouldn't have made this thread until he did some research.

Tatum had an amazing rookie season which many didn't expect. He had appeared to correct a lot of his short comings seen in college. His 3% pt was elevated, he was deadly taking the ball to the rim and finishing or getting fouled. He also played defense better than expected.

This growth over just a couple of months between college to the pros made everyone reasonably believe and expect that he'd continue to develop at a rapid pace.

Also, there was a flood of snide and snarky Celtics fans ragging about how Ainge "KNEW" what would happen to Fultz and how he stole Tatum, blah blah, blah. So now they have to eat crow and there's a lot of folks lined up to shovel it down.

What's there to eat crow about? Even if nothing changes, Tatum is a better pick than Fultz.

It wasnt just b/c he was better than Fultz. Me getting my fat a** off the couch and shooting 70% from the charity stripe made me better than Fultz the last 2 years. It was the bragging about how he was a franchise player, a cornerstone, people were insane to suggest moving him in a deal for PG or AD or any other star. Tatum and insert whatever other young player on celtics, made that combo a top 3 or 5 young combo in the league, etc etc.

Ascrilas · Post #18 » by **Ascrilas** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:50 am

Now that Brown had two good games in a row, it's time for another Tatum thread, right? :lol:

I think everyone and their mom has given their opinion on Tatum now, so maybe just let him play for a season and then judge, and talk about other players who deserve some attention in the meantime.

everdiso · Post #19 » by **everdiso** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:50 am

ajones9219 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Because of his elite size and talent mostly

6'8", 6'11" wingspan is not elite size.

Also doesn't have elite handles or shooting or playmaking or defense....or even really close, tbh.

It is for a 3. And he is an excellent ball handler, shooter and very good defender. His main weakness is sometimes decision making but he clearly has the tools to be an all nba type guy

It's not elite for a 3. And his handles look flat out bad sometimes.

ajones9219 · Post #20 » by **ajones9219** » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:56 am

everdiso wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
everdiso wrote:
6'8", 6'11" wingspan is not elite size.

Also doesn't have elite handles or shooting or playmaking or defense....or even really close, tbh.

It is for a 3. And he is an excellent ball handler, shooter and very good defender. His main weakness is sometimes decision making but he clearly has the tools to be an all nba type guy

It's not elite for a 3. And his handles look flat out bad sometimes.

not sure what you consider elite size for a three then. But nothing about any of your previous posts suggest an unbiased take anyway when it relates to the Celtics so it's not worth arguing