So why is Jayson Tatum held to such a high standard on this forum?

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Re: So why is Jayson Tatum held to such a high standard on this forum? 

Post#41 » by itrsteve » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:31 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
itrsteve wrote:Good, a new day and a new “trash the Celtics” thread.

Miserable souls.


Celtics stans get SOOOOOO upset over perceived slights that they face on realgm. i've never seen another fanbase act like this. It's like a persecution complex.


There’s a new thread on something every damn day of the same old tired stuff. Scroll along, you’ll see.
[quote=“dkb964”]156-1 Celtics are frauds when pressure is put on them. They would have been toast if Luka was not stupid enough to foul himself out. Enjoy this ONE finals win. There will never be another with the Js and the Celtics cant afford stacked team.[/quote]
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Post#42 » by reflex35 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:48 pm

itrsteve wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
itrsteve wrote:Good, a new day and a new “trash the Celtics” thread.

Miserable souls.


Celtics stans get SOOOOOO upset over perceived slights that they face on realgm. i've never seen another fanbase act like this. It's like a persecution complex.


There’s a new thread on something every damn day of the same old tired stuff. Scroll along, you’ll see.


Celtics fans are passionate and that's what fans should be. They should always defend their guys even though sometimes it can come up as being a bit delusional or overrating their young talent or team.

I do understand that and it's not only Celtics fans which do that. We have Luka the Golden Boy, we have Trae who by some threads now will have a chance of winning a scoring title, we have Ben and him being the new Lebron and Magic ... :lol:

I mean - it's not just Celtics it's everyone and as we all are passionate to support our teams sometimes other fanbases make jokes.
But let's all keep it light.

As I said with Jason - talented but everyone got into his head. So Jayson, be yourself as you were in your first year.
Afterwards he went to train with Kobe and what do you guys imagine Kobe told him? :lol: He told him what he believes in - take everyone shot you can, dominate everyone and all that stuff...
Well, that worked for Kobe but he's a 2nd best SG of all time no matter if you hate him or not. It would not work for Tatum, so the less Kobe-like he would be the better it will be for him. So just stop taking ill-advised difficult shots, improve your game, be humble and don't listed to all this hype Jayson!
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Post#43 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:04 pm

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ajones9219 wrote:Because of his elite size and talent mostly


6'8", 6'11" wingspan is not elite size.

Also doesn't have elite handles or shooting or playmaking or defense....or even really close, tbh.


He’s grown— was listed at 6’8 barefoot, or half an inch shorter than LeBron. Given that he grew an inch, his wingspan probably grew around one as well and he now likely has a 9’+ standing reach.
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Post#44 » by evilpimp972 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:13 pm

How do you get so many shots up and 0 ASSISTS?
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Post#45 » by Bird4Three » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm

evilpimp972 wrote:How do you get so many shots up and 0 ASSISTS?


Did a Laker fan seriously just say that?

:lol:
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Post#46 » by evilpimp972 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:20 pm

Bird4Three wrote:
evilpimp972 wrote:How do you get so many shots up and 0 ASSISTS?


Did a Laker fan seriously just say that?

:lol:

YES.
Kobe averaged 5 assists for his career lmao.
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Post#47 » by Bird4Three » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:23 pm

evilpimp972 wrote:
Bird4Three wrote:
evilpimp972 wrote:How do you get so many shots up and 0 ASSISTS?


Did a Laker fan seriously just say that?

:lol:

YES.
Kobe averaged 5 assists for his career lmao.


And he also shot the ball 27 and 33 times with ZERO assists in PLAYOFF games.....who knows how many other times he had zero assists.

Jayson had 4 assists in his last game btw.
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Post#48 » by Zombiesonics » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:23 pm

While his finishing leaves much to be desired, I believe tatum is taking that next step defensively for him to truly become a two way wing. Both him and Brown are being thrown into the fire here being tasked to guard the best player every night while also being asked to create efficient offense and hit shots. He is hitting threes, just going to need get better at finishing or drawing fouls as the season progresses.
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Post#49 » by MagicBagley18 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:35 pm

NCHeels2008 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:Man the real estate the Celtics, Danny ainge and Tatum own in some posters heads here....why? everyday a new post and we aren’t even contenders.


Well Boston gets a disproportionate amount of attention from the media because a disproportionate amount of the main writers have ties to the Boston area. Out of maybe 10? voices that drive the NBA discussion 3 are from Boston (KOC, Zach Lowe and Bill Simmons). There has been a Boston bias for the last 10-15 years, the KG years for some reason are held in higher reverence than the Lakers team that won more titles in the same time period and the Pistons of the mid 00s who have a nearly identical track record to the KG Celts. You can't be that surprised people are going to feast on the corpse when your team is down.


Like I said, real estate in your heads if you believe any of that is true.
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Post#50 » by Scarletfire81 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:20 pm

I have been very frustrated at Tatums shot selection to start the season. He's seems to be pressing. However since it appears JB has made a leap, I think Tatum shouldn't be looking to score 25 points a game. He should be looking to be a spot up shooter and rebounder. He's trying to do several things well out there, if he's reduces his thought process I think he'll flourish.
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Post#51 » by NY 567 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:35 pm

Him and Brown are about as average as it gets. Tatum isn't super skilled or athletic, isn't a great creator, isn't a great shooter or finisher, isn't a great defender. I have no idea why he's still hyped at this point. And to think, he's getting a max and Brown is making over 100 million dollars. Insanity
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Post#52 » by chrisab123 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:39 pm

If you're going to obsess about the Celtics at least make a Tacko Fall HOF thread
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Post#53 » by ragesincemdxvi » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:54 pm

Because the Eastern Conference lacks all-stars so the NBA has to artificially create some.
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Post#54 » by canada_dry » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:56 pm

Because Boston stans after 1 year, and honestly a lot of experts, did just that after 1 year.

10 time tatum afterall.

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Post#55 » by Pelly24 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:59 pm

It's more like, "why is jayson tatum held to such a high standard by basketball journalists?"

It's because he looks like a prototypical wing as far as height, size and ostensive skillset. However, he's a below average athlete for a wing, that's why his freethrow rate is so low and he settles for threes and long-twos while being elite at neither. If he shot 45% from midrange he'd be an all-star type guy, but he's simply not a very good shooter. He's also not a great ballhandler or passer.

We'll really see what he can do this year. No excuses if he has the talent, but I don't see all-nba. I could see him making an all-star team, but not much more.
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Post#56 » by Vampirate » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:31 pm

Pelly24 wrote:It's more like, "why is jayson tatum held to such a high standard by basketball journalists?"

It's because he looks like a prototypical wing as far as height, size and ostensive skillset. However, he's a below average athlete for a wing, that's why his freethrow rate is so low and he settles for threes and long-twos while being elite at neither. If he shot 45% from midrange he'd be an all-star type guy, but he's simply not a very good shooter. He's also not a great ballhandler or passer.

We'll really see what he can do this year. No excuses if he has the talent, but I don't see all-nba. I could see him making an all-star team, but not much more.


Tatum is actually a very very good and possibly one day elite 3pt shooter depending how you look at him.

Take out those long 2s and substitute them for 3s and he might make the jump. In other words half his shots should be from 3pt range.
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Post#57 » by Kahn_2001 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:32 pm

NY 567 wrote:Him and Brown are about as average as it gets. Tatum isn't super skilled or athletic, isn't a great creator, isn't a great shooter or finisher, isn't a great defender. I have no idea why he's still hyped at this point. And to think, he's getting a max and Brown is making over 100 million dollars. Insanity
Perfectly said, those two are just so meh. Celtics have no choice but to pay them, because of how bad Danny messed up all the assets they had and will be stuck on the treadmill for the next 4 years.

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Post#58 » by Ben-N1ce » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:36 pm

Because he got taken instead of Fultz.
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Post#59 » by ITYSL » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:40 pm

Yawn, another strawman. This board calls him overrated way, way, way more than it calls him a future superstar.
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Post#60 » by Wilfried » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:45 pm

CoP wrote:Yawn, another strawman. This board calls him overrated way, way, way more than it calls him a future superstar.


Well, you cannot be overrated if no one calls you a superstar

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