Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft?

[King Ken]

monster game by Ja tonight...30/4/9 with a couple of huge defensive plays too

That last play v. two defenders to Crowder for the game-winner was elite. While the questions about his finishing are real. He is alike a suped-up Brandon Jennings with great tools.

[clyde21]

there's something about the way Hayes jumps, so effortless, no wasted movements, so bouncy...i don't why but he looks even more athletic in the NBA than he did at Texas

[The_Hater]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

[clyde21]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

he needs to stay off the court until he gets that core strength up, he can't do anything because he can't maintain balance throughout any contact and can't multi-task on the court because of it

that should be his #1 priority right now

[The_Hater]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

he needs to stay off the court until he gets that core strength up, he can't do anything because he can't maintain balance throughout any contact and can't multi-task on the court because of it

that should be his #1 priority right now

While that’s true, his overall skill level is pretty bad too which is just an extension of the problem we saw at Duke. Atlanta is all in on the guy but I have serious doubts that he’ll ever be very good.

[clyde21]

NAW: 15pts / 4rebs / 9asts / 1stl

Hayes: 19pts / 3rebs / 1ast / 1stl / 1blk

[clyde21]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

he needs to stay off the court until he gets that core strength up, he can't do anything because he can't maintain balance throughout any contact and can't multi-task on the court because of it

that should be his #1 priority right now

While that’s true, his overall skill level is pretty bad too which is just an extension of the problem we saw at Duke. Atlanta is all in on the guy but I have serious doubts that he’ll ever be very good.

not gonna argue much there, but I do see a path to a 3+D guy, just needs to get a bit stronger.

[King Ken]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

It's really not that hard to make your points without calling other posters names and blatantly insulting them. - Ruz

[Illmatic12]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Reddish has a low IQ and is bad at almost every aspect of NBA basketball, but I will say that his defense has translated at least. If you're the Hawks, you just hope Reddish pans out as a Trevor Ariza type by the end of his rookie contract. Their GMs job is safe for the time being because of the Trae pick , yeah he screwed up taking Cam top 10 but in the long run it won't hurt him too much.


Tbh Cam has looked better than Jarrett Culver ,who is looking like Frank Ntilikina out there with worse defense

[TheGreenArrow]

Rj Barrett is the truth folks.

[clyde21]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Reddish has a low IQ and is bad at almost every aspect of NBA basketball, but I will say that his defense has translated at least. If you're the Hawks, you just hope Reddish pans out as a Trevor Ariza type by the end of his rookie contract. Their GMs job is safe for the time being because of the Trae pick , yeah he screwed up taking Cam top 10 but in the long run it won't hurt him too much.


Tbh Cam has looked better than Jarrett Culver ,who is looking like Frank Ntilikina out there with worse defense

everyone in the top 10 looks good right now except for Culver/Cam, but I still see a path for both of them

[Illmatic12]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Reddish has a low IQ and is bad at almost every aspect of NBA basketball, but I will say that his defense has translated at least. If you're the Hawks, you just hope Reddish pans out as a Trevor Ariza type by the end of his rookie contract. Their GMs job is safe for the time being because of the Trae pick , yeah he screwed up taking Cam top 10 but in the long run it won't hurt him too much.


Tbh Cam has looked better than Jarrett Culver ,who is looking like Frank Ntilikina out there with worse defense

everyone in the top 10 looks good right now except for Culver/Cam, but I still see a path for both of them

Agreed, think it ties into how the league has gotten so much better at the process of onboarding young players and making them comfortable. There isn't really the veteran hazing or "trial by fire" experience like back in the day so these kids are coming in looking fairly confident off the bat.


Reddish can get a pass for now, I'll assume that at some point he will take basketball seriously and mature into an acceptable role player.. whatever. But Culver? If he doesn't show anything as a rookie I'd start to get a bit worried, bc at least from a physique and mental maturity standpoint he was being touted as an NBA ready prospect. Minny will give him plenty of chances to crack the rotation so we'll see..

[clyde21]

Reddish has a low IQ and is bad at almost every aspect of NBA basketball, but I will say that his defense has translated at least. If you're the Hawks, you just hope Reddish pans out as a Trevor Ariza type by the end of his rookie contract. Their GMs job is safe for the time being because of the Trae pick , yeah he screwed up taking Cam top 10 but in the long run it won't hurt him too much.


Tbh Cam has looked better than Jarrett Culver ,who is looking like Frank Ntilikina out there with worse defense

everyone in the top 10 looks good right now except for Culver/Cam, but I still see a path for both of them

Agreed, think it ties into how the league has gotten so much better at the process of onboarding young players and making them comfortable. There isn't really the veteran hazing or "trial by fire" experience like back in the day so these kids are coming in looking fairly confident off the bat.


Reddish can get a pass for now, I'll assume that at some point he will take basketball seriously and mature into an acceptable role player.. whatever. But Culver? If he doesn't show anything as a rookie I'd start to get a bit worried, bc at least from a physique and mental maturity standpoint he was being touted as an NBA ready prospect. Minny will give him plenty of chances to crack the rotation so we'll see..

yea, not sure what's going w Culver...he looks decent in the preseason but when the RS started it's like he hit a wall

[No-Man]

NAW: 15pts / 4rebs / 9asts / 1stl

Hayes: 19pts / 3rebs / 1ast / 1stl / 1blk

did you see the game? it was garbage time for like 75% of it and the Warriors played 6-6 Green, Spellman and Chriss at Center, 0 conclussions to draw from that one

[The_Hater]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Reddish has a low IQ and is bad at almost every aspect of NBA basketball, but I will say that his defense has translated at least. If you're the Hawks, you just hope Reddish pans out as a Trevor Ariza type by the end of his rookie contract. Their GMs job is safe for the time being because of the Trae pick , yeah he screwed up taking Cam top 10 but in the long run it won't hurt him too much.


Tbh Cam has looked better than Jarrett Culver ,who is looking like Frank Ntilikina out there with worse defense

everyone in the top 10 looks good right now except for Culver/Cam, but I still see a path for both of them

Culver actually looked quite good in the preseason although he’s been a deer in headlights his first 3 games. But he has a lot more offensive skill than Reddish and he plays defence too. i would be surprised if Culver didn’t have a much better rookie season.

[King Ken]

The same **** some of you idiots said about Trae, is the same thing some of you idiots are saying about Cam. Just about most if not all of our fanbase sees the upside in Cam like we did even early on from Trae. We watched the games. We don't stat watch and talk stupid ****. This is what's the issue with this board and how idiots are born each and everyday.

[crows2]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Trash ass post from a trash ass poster. Cam is already one of the best starting perimeter defenders in the NBA. He moves off the ball well and has the DP part of DPS shoot down. He simply isn't hitting jumpers at a respectable clip. Overall, he is a major reason we are 2-1 and possibly 3-0.

Stupid ass posters who said Trae was a bust will be the same stupid ass posters dragging Reddish and hiding when he is shooting well. I said this about White in SL, once he gets his shot down, it's over. Cam does that plus his elite defense, watch the f%*k out!

I’ve been ignoring your previous posts because they’re full of personal attacks but I can’t leave this one alone. Labelling Reddish as one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire NBA after just 3 career games outs you as incredibly biased and your opinion on anything to do with the Hawks as worthless.

Stop comparing him to Trae Young! It’s a straw man argument to bring him up in the discussion. I, and many other posters, liked Young coming in to the league because he was actually a great college player. As was Coby White. Conversely, as I’ve said before Reddish was statistically the WORST top 10 college pick over the last decade. His shot will NOT suddenly start “going down”. You have no evidence that it ever will because it never has before. He has NEVER shown that he can be anything but a negative offensive player.

Young is obviously the main reason the Hawks are 2-1, and to a lesser extent Hunter who has been terrific. I don’t understand why you’re not singing his praises instead of Reddish’s. Bizarrely Hunter is the player you desperately want Reddish to be, but it’s doubtful he ever will be.

Don’t bother replying with any more personal attacks. I won’t be reading it.

[King Ken]

Reddish is an early favourite for ‘worst rotation player in the league’ through 3 games.

Can’t make a shot from anywhere, doesn’t pass, doesn’t get to the line. There are all-around players and then there is the exact opposite.

Trash ass post from a trash ass poster. Cam is already one of the best starting perimeter defenders in the NBA. He moves off the ball well and has the DP part of DPS shoot down. He simply isn't hitting jumpers at a respectable clip. Overall, he is a major reason we are 2-1 and possibly 3-0.

Stupid ass posters who said Trae was a bust will be the same stupid ass posters dragging Reddish and hiding when he is shooting well. I said this about White in SL, once he gets his shot down, it's over. Cam does that plus his elite defense, watch the f%*k out!

I’ve been ignoring your previous posts because they’re full of personal attacks but I can’t leave this one alone. Labelling Reddish as one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire NBA after just 3 career games outs you as incredibly biased and your opinion on anything to do with the Hawks as worthless.

Stop comparing him to Trae Young! It’s a straw man argument to bring him up in the discussion. I, and many other posters, liked Young coming in to the league because he was actually a great college player. As was Coby White. Conversely, as I’ve said before Reddish was statistically the WORST top 10 college pick over the last decade. His shot will NOT suddenly start “going down”. You have no evidence that it ever will because it never has before. He has NEVER shown that he can be anything but a negative offensive player.

Young is obviously the main reason the Hawks are 2-1, and to a lesser extent Hunter who has been terrific. I don’t understand why you’re not singing his praises instead of Reddish’s. Bizarrely Hunter is the player you desperately want Reddish to be, but it’s doubtful he ever will be.

Don’t bother replying with any more personal attacks. I won’t be reading it.

Because you don't watch the games. If you watch the games you wouldn't be so quick to say idiotic ****. I didn't even read most of your narrative based drivel and never will if it's garbage.

Cam is getting to any spot on the court effortlessly. He is moving well without the basketball. His handle looks good. His quickness looks good. His agility with the ball looks good. His rotation on his shot looks good. His footwork looks great. Cam simply is having trouble executing and finishing the offensive play. His body on his shot and consistent shot just isn't looking good in comparisons to most wings and he clearly needs to work on that. We had a lot of these issues with Trae in SL and some in November. Especially the shot consistency. A lot of it was due to simply playing too fast mentally. Cam is a rookie. He will be fine. These things work their way out.

He is also playing rushed and the game on offense is too fast for him. These are things we saw a lot early in the season from Trae offensively and they got better significantly as the season came along.

Cam defense has been superb. One of the biggest reasons we are 2-1 and almost 3-0. Our starting defense is stringy and Cam is our best perimeter defender who we use from 1-3. Doesn't get beat off the dribble, forces tough shots and his length is causing havoc for offensive players.

His defense is consistent and he doesn't even need the right rotations to get stops. He is critical to our success and even without the success on the offensive end. His offensive team metrics are better than someone like Matisse because he does a lot of little things without the ball well to where it's not like you are playing 4 on 5. No one is leaving Reddish open and he does allow for space which tends to go away when he is not on the court. Like last year with Trae, it's tiring to talk to people who don't watch us play but have an opinion that's pure basura.


Easy on the language and the personal attacks. you can defend your point without all that.

[King Ken]

Last year, early in the season, I would watch Trae Young and say he can be the best offensive player in the NBA and come here and y'all wannabes would tell me he is trash. The worst player in the NBA. He is Jimmer but frail who can pass.

Doncic - Trae will go down as the worst trade in NBA history. Trae is awful. He don't have no game. He can't shoot v. NBA defenses. His shot is broke. His shot is set and he is too small and his defense is ass. This is what the I don't watch the game geniuses of realgm told me about Trae Young. The worst Basketball minds I've seen anywhere. Sorry but most of y'all dogging Reddish don't really understand Basketball well at all like those dogging Trae Young in the 1st half of last year.

[Stillwater]

Last year, early in the season, I would watch Trae Young and say he can be the best offensive player in the NBA and come here and y'all wannabes would tell me he is trash. The worst player in the NBA. He is Jimmer but frail who can pass.

Doncic - Trae will go down as the worst trade in NBA history. Trae is awful. He don't have no game. He can't shoot v. NBA defenses. His shot is broke. His shot is set and he is too small and his defense is ass. This is what the I don't watch the game geniuses of realgm told me about Trae Young. The worst Basketball minds I've seen anywhere. Sorry but most of y'all dogging Reddish don't really understand Basketball well at all like those dogging Trae Young in the 1st half of last year.

First off nobody on internet forums enjoys conversing with people who feel so disrespected all they do is complain about it.
you might feel the same way about these hawks players if you were not a devoted hawk follower but i doubt it.
i am the first to admit i was wrong about how well his court vision has transferred but it certainly was the one thing i thought Trae could maximize . but i avsolutely did not however think he could stay on the court as a chucker and 6'2" wingdpan defender. atl cant live without his distribution right now so they live with his circus shots and
poor ability on defense.
i will never back away from my take on his chucking from ludicrous low % distances having to do with his low release .
as far as reddish i like to rile you up since you are basically his only true supporter these days.
take it with a grain of salt. everyone with a eye for talent sees the skill set is there, its just until he breaks down the demons that are distracting him
and made him the bust of highschool to college recruiting at duke of maybe the entire K run, he is a bust at the pro level for awhile anyway.
i think what you ignore is the big picture here:
young could have the same impact and consistency in the playoffs as he does up to now
but that in itself is the problem ...hes overrated.
odds are greater he is owned in a playoff setting against teams most likely at the top this season.
to be fair i see a lot of the same problems facing CLE with Garland defensively and wouldnt be surprised if he busts as it pertains to his draft spot. im a little more optimistic on Garland because he has a +3 ws and tries hard on both sides of the ball but his defense is terrible
Sexton has already shown he has devoted his summer to upping his defense, totally different player in that regard, and as of this early date will push Garland to 6th man unless the Cavs go full tank again which honestly is looking less and less probable