Regular Season Game 3: Orlando Magic (1-1) at Toronto Raptors (2-1) - 7:30pm ET

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #621 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:00 am

ChosenSavior wrote:I hate losing to the Raptors but they are battle tested and champions. I don't like to be a moral victory guy but there are positives to take from this game. Also cannot stand Nick Nurse when he talks lol.

Champions or not, I hate losing against them because some their fans are not nice on this site.

EDIT: For clarity and fixed the generalization.

mattyBoi · Post #622 » by **mattyBoi** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:00 am

Vuc and AG are killing us.

zuppafly · Post #623 » by **zuppafly** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

These Fournier and Ross prayers have to stop. I rather give the keys to Isaac and Fultz and watch them fail until they learn than have Fournier and Ross doing these absurd Isos and prayer pull ups over and over.

If the goal is to develop, let the kids take the reign. We're not heading to the finals with Evan of Terrence leading the offense, let them be the second line of offense, not the first.

swarlesbarkley · Post #624 » by **swarlesbarkley** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

Unfortunately Vuc is probably thinking we would've won had he been playing down the stretch. Hopefully Cliff isn't thinking that.

GameOver25 · Post #625 » by **GameOver25** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

Ok Bamba vent over, but he just looks like he's always winded out there. How do you play basketball for a living, skinny as he is and always lacking stamina?

mattyBoi · Post #626 » by **mattyBoi** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

Also, Bamba is projecting as an end of bench big in my eyes. His instincts are awful. See Isaac for an example of the opposite.

PrimeThyme · Post #627 » by **PrimeThyme** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:01 am

We are locked into this roster, unfortunately. We see the potential of Isaac at center, but Weltman has decided to invest everything he has into that position longterm. Such a shame. You can't trade that Vuc contract.

thelead · Post #628 » by **thelead** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:02 am

SOUL wrote:Again the discussion is going to shift to Bamba predictably postgame because some posters don't want to address the real issues of the team. Bamba is only part of many issues.

Bamba is only a significant discussion if we're talking about trading him to acquire said player with needs that help the team.

In 12 less minutes, Bamba made more field goals than Vuc and was +1 vs Vuc's -6. But yeah, let's pile on essentially a rookie while ignoring the $100 mil All-Star :roll:

magicfan217 · Post #629 » by **magicfan217** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:02 am

swarlesbarkley wrote:If this year isn't a playoff year (which it's looking like it's not...), we just need Fultz and Isaac to play together as much as possible and build whatever that will be.

Let’s throw away the season after three games

Optimus_Steel · Post #630 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:02 am

The defense is there, was really good but we gotta get the offense rolling. Alot of missed open shots. Lots of mistakes too. Lot of missed opportunities. Fultz finished the game for the 2nd game in a row, Cliff certainly trying to groom him and get him late game experience, it will pay off later in the season. Not a surprising loss but the defense was really good and should continue and get us some wins.

cedric76 · Post #631 » by **cedric76** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:03 am

ugly performance again :-(

Ross forcing 3s

Hero ball

yuk

J-Mezzy · Post #632 » by **J-Mezzy** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:03 am

We lost 2 tough away games and both games were competitive

But we are finding out what our best line up is and developing Fultz and Isaac

I'll take it tbh

Post #633 » by **Knightro** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:03 am

Vucevic is 100% NOT getting benched 4 games into the season and frankly he shouldn't.

But in theory Isaac can play 16 minutes per game as the starting PF *and* 16 MPG as the backup C and that is what the Magic should be doing moving forward.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #634 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:03 am

SOUL wrote:Again the discussion is going to shift to Bamba predictably postgame because some posters don't want to address the real issues of the team. Bamba is only part of many issues.

Bamba is only a significant discussion if we're talking about trading him to acquire said player with needs that help the team.

Bamba is young and his game is immature. I seriously think he can improve once he figures out how to get into better conditioning. Not giving up on him yet. This team seriously need to figure out their scoring situation because we cannot continue like that this season.

Max Power · Post #635 » by **Max Power** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:04 am

We’ve got to figure out what’s wrong with this team. Obviously Vuc and Gordon are not playing well and if they don’t start this isn’t a playoff team. That’s almost 40 ppg we’re not getting that we’re used to. Fultz has been a pleasant surprise and JI played great. But the team needs to get their heads straight.

Optimus_Steel · Post #636 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:05 am

swarlesbarkley wrote:If this year isn't a playoff year (which it's looking like it's not...), we just need Fultz and Isaac to play together as much as possible and build whatever that will be.

Why is it not? It's game 3 and the defense has looked really good again.

PrimeThyme · Post #637 » by **PrimeThyme** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:05 am

SOUL wrote:Again the discussion is going to shift to Bamba predictably postgame because some posters don't want to address the real issues of the team. Bamba is only part of many issues.

Bamba is only a significant discussion if we're talking about trading him to acquire said player with needs that help the team.

I think we need to talk about everything. Vuc deserves the biggest blame out of everybody. He is our highest-paid player. I don't think DJ has played good either. AG looks awful as well.

But Bamba and his progress is a very significant discussion too. He hasn't played well since coming into the NBA. He may not be the biggest problem but I think he is definitely a major one, considering we drafted him at 6 to be a cornerstone of this team.

Post #638 » by **SOUL** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:06 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
SOUL wrote:Again the discussion is going to shift to Bamba predictably postgame because some posters don't want to address the real issues of the team. Bamba is only part of many issues.

Bamba is only a significant discussion if we're talking about trading him to acquire said player with needs that help the team.

Bamba is young and his game is immature. I seriously think he can improve once he figures out how to get into better conditioning. Not giving up on him yet. This team seriously need to figure out their scoring situation because we cannot continue like that this season.

He looks a step slow and he's still too weak and loses position. I'm not gonna give up on him either unless it's a trade that we should do.

But there are just so many players playing badly and wasting possessions with bad shots, passes, non-passes, effort plays, that I'm definitely not pinpointing him for Birch as a way this team suddenly decides to score 100 points for the first time.

thelead · Post #639 » by **thelead** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:06 am

Is there a dynamic lights out shooter in the draft this year?

bargnanimvp · Post #640 » by **bargnanimvp** » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:07 am

Knightro wrote:Vucevic is 100% NOT getting benched 4 games into the season and frankly he shouldn't.

But in theory Isaac can play 16 minutes per game as the starting PF *and* 16 MPG as the backup C and that is what the Magic should be doing moving forward.

The other issue with Vuc though is we often don't use him how we should and how we do when we are winning.

So far this season when we need buckets we keep going with long heaves and forced drives, we've seen season after season if we dish it in to Vuc he can be a reliable scorer on the interior but too often we just don't.

He seems to have been told/or has decide he wants to hand around outside the paint more this season too which does not help.