Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

[kg01]

Right now, yes he is. Or he’s at least very close.

The Hawks are gifting him minutes as a lottery pick whom they have a big investment with but he’s clearly not NBA ready.

Again, he's starting because Heurter is on a minutes restriction and Crabbe is "hurt".

[The_Hater]

Right now, yes he is. Or he’s at least very close.

The Hawks are gifting him minutes as a lottery pick whom they have a big investment with but he’s clearly not NBA ready.

Again, he's starting because Heurter is on a minutes restriction and Crabbe is "hurt".

The Hawks have other wing players on the roster, I would hazard a guess that all of them are currently superior players but Reddish is getting minutes because they’re committed to developing the young players first. Time will tell if that was a good idea with Reddish.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Right now, yes he is. Or he’s at least very close.

The Hawks are gifting him minutes as a lottery pick whom they have a big investment with but he’s clearly not NBA ready.

Again, he's starting because Heurter is on a minutes restriction and Crabbe is "hurt".

I think they're just looking at the box score and seeing Huerter getting some minutes and assuming we're giving Reddish the start because he was a frp.

Once Huerter comes off his restriction, Cam will go back to his role of coming off the bench, as that's what Coach L wanted him to do anyway so he can develop.

[Myth]

I raise u a Dedmon.

He has 5 combined steals, blocks, and assists for the season.

and 15 turnovers....

and is shooting 33%

Why you lying about all of that though?

6 combined steals, blocks, and assists.

14 turnovers.

34.6%

Really, only the turnovers are truly worse than Cam's. Cam is shooting 22.7% and shooting more than Dedmon with less points on the board (3.7 vs 6.0), has less rebounds in more minutes, and has 5 combined steals, blocks, and assists (1 less game, so pretty close to even there). Because of the minutes difference, Cam's per 36 is even worse than the raw stats (Dedmon is averaging a double double per 36, Cam is 5.6/7.1 per 36).

[DTP]

Children, please. None of them have anything on Bruce Brown.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I think they're just looking at the box score and seeing Huerter getting some minutes and assuming we're giving Reddish the start because he was a frp.

Once Huerter comes off his restriction, Cam will go back to his role of coming off the bench, as that's what Coach L wanted him to do anyway so he can develop.

I think people are assuming Reddish is playing as much as he is because he was a frp - it goes beyond simply starting. Reddish is playing more than Bembry and Turner and both guys are clearly better players right now. Whether or not that's a good idea in the long run is tough to say right now. The idea that Reddish is playing so much and starting just because Huerter is on a minutes restriction doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

[Myth]

Children, please. None of them have anything on Bruce Brown.

I beg to differ. Brown at least has a respectable fg% (47.4%) and hits 50% of his threes.

[marco102]

Sigh! Has Trae Young, not taught Realgm anything?

1. One Cam is starting because Kevin Huerter is on a minutes restriction.
2. Cam is also starting because he makes our starting defense respectable. He and De'Andre have done wonders for our starting defense.
3. I didn't know offense was the only thing a starter should do. Cam's offense is off. He didn't have a summer to prepare like most rookies because he was still recovering from his surgery. My expectations were his offense would come around slowly as he gets adjusted to the game.
4. Look at the Hawks record. 2-1 and should probably be 3-0 if we hit some free throws. Cam's defense has something to do with that.
5. Yes, he may be struggling on offense, but to suggest a raw rookie in his first three games is the worse starter in the NBA is just asinine.

[BlazersBroncos]

Cam isn't ready, he should be redshirted this season. He isn't any closer to being NBA ready than Nassir Little, who PDX is basically redshirting.

[DTP]

Children, please. None of them have anything on Bruce Brown.

I beg to differ. Brown at least has a respectable fg% (47.4%) and hits 50% of his threes.

No, no....Brown has one game where he wasnt completely trash and that was last night when he came off the bench. He went 3/3 from 3 last night, so the percentages arent accurate at all. Watch him, he's trash.

[Geaux_Hawks]

I think they're just looking at the box score and seeing Huerter getting some minutes and assuming we're giving Reddish the start because he was a frp.

Once Huerter comes off his restriction, Cam will go back to his role of coming off the bench, as that's what Coach L wanted him to do anyway so he can develop.

I think people are assuming Reddish is playing as much as he is because he was a frp - it goes beyond simply starting. Reddish is playing more than Bembry and Turner and both guys are clearly better players right now. Whether or not that's a good idea in the long run is tough to say right now. The idea that Reddish is playing so much and starting just because Huerter is on a minutes restriction doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

Bembry played more minutes the first 2 games. Turner is our "backup PG". Lloyd is using cam more for defense than anything. Not to mention it's a SSS. Give the rookie time. Bembry may look better offensively now, but 3 years in the league will show it's not a steady trend.

The plan has always been to develop Reddish from the bench. Huerter will be getting heavier minutes soon.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Bembry played more minutes the first 2 games. Turner is our "backup PG". Lloyd is using cam more for defense than anything. Not to mention it's a SSS. Give the rookie time. Bembry may look better offensively now, but 3 years in the league will show it's not a steady trend.

The plan has always been to develop Reddish from the bench. Huerter will be getting heavier minutes soon.

Reddish has done some positive things on defense, I agree. Bembry and Turner are both better defensively right now, though. Long term? Who knows. I sure hope Reddish passes them because the gap isn't that big and Reddish brings almost nothing on offense right now. And if you're looking 3 years down the line, that is the definition of gifting a frp minutes which is exactly what people are claiming the Hawks are doing. And they are.

Personally, I have my doubts about Reddish. He's had similar rumours to Andrea Bargnani floating around in that there seem to be whispers about him being hurt every time his shot doesn't fall. That may or may not be true but I've never seen something so coincidental.

On the flipside, I actually like Hunter a LOT and feel he's a massive reason for the Hawks' early-season success - probably the second most important factor beyond Trae Young becoming a rich man's Steve Nash.

[kg01]

Right now, yes he is. Or he’s at least very close.

The Hawks are gifting him minutes as a lottery pick whom they have a big investment with but he’s clearly not NBA ready.

Again, he's starting because Heurter is on a minutes restriction and Crabbe is "hurt".

The Hawks have other wing players on the roster, I would hazard a guess that all of them are currently superior players but Reddish is getting minutes because they’re committed to developing the young players first. Time will tell if that was a good idea with Reddish.

Name them. I'll wait.

[cjx]

The Hawks will be in the Eastern Conference Finals. Reddish is PG-13 2.0, and like George, his defensive versatility is ahead of his offense. Reddish will be what he's expected to be offensively in year 2, and that's okay.

[The_Hater]

Again, he's starting because Heurter is on a minutes restriction and Crabbe is "hurt".

The Hawks have other wing players on the roster, I would hazard a guess that all of them are currently superior players but Reddish is getting minutes because they’re committed to developing the young players first. Time will tell if that was a good idea with Reddish.

Name them. I'll wait.

Bembry, Carter, Turner can play the wing even though he’s been the b/u PG. They could also play Parker at SF if needed although I can understand not wanting to do that.

All of them are superior players to Reddish but as I said, he’s almost certainly getting these minutes because they’re invested in his development.

You obviously knew the answer to your own question, just please don’t come back with a response along the lines that Reddish is a better short term option than any of them.

[kg01]

The Hawks have other wing players on the roster, I would hazard a guess that all of them are currently superior players but Reddish is getting minutes because they’re committed to developing the young players first. Time will tell if that was a good idea with Reddish.

Name them. I'll wait.

Bembry, Carter, Turner can play the wing even though he’s been the b/u PG. They could also play Parker at SF if needed although I can understand not wanting to do that.

All of them are superior players to Reddish but as I said, he’s almost certainly getting these minutes because they’re invested in his development.

You obviously knew the answer to your own question, just please don’t come back with a response along the lines that Reddish is a better short term option than any of them.

My response is that you're just saying names and choosing to ignore the team's circumstances. They're not force-feeding the dude minutes, and keeping him ahead of guys, just because he was a FRP.

Carter is a 4, Turner is the backup 1. Bembry is getting as many minutes as the team can stomach.

[Myth]

Children, please. None of them have anything on Bruce Brown.

I beg to differ. Brown at least has a respectable fg% (47.4%) and hits 50% of his threes.

No, no....Brown has one game where he wasnt completely trash and that was last night when he came off the bench. He went 3/3 from 3 last night, so the percentages arent accurate at all. Watch him, he's trash.

I'm not saying he is not trash. Sounds like that one game was still more than what some of these others have done though.

[The_Hater]

Name them. I'll wait.

Bembry, Carter, Turner can play the wing even though he’s been the b/u PG. They could also play Parker at SF if needed although I can understand not wanting to do that.

All of them are superior players to Reddish but as I said, he’s almost certainly getting these minutes because they’re invested in his development.

You obviously knew the answer to your own question, just please don’t come back with a response along the lines that Reddish is a better short term option than any of them.

My response is that you're just saying names and choosing to ignore the team's circumstances. They're not force-feeding the dude minutes, and keeping him ahead of guys, just because he was a FRP.

Carter is a 4, Turner is the backup 1. Bembry is getting as many minutes as the team can stomach.

Simply claiming that some players play different positions Isn’t a good argument. Even ignoring that we’re in the era of positionless basketball, all 3 of those players have played SF either in the current season or as recently as last season, and none of those players I listed have played some huge minute load thst couldn’t be increased if needed. Even Hunter, who I didn’t list, has only played 26 mpg and could soak up more minutes. Meanwhile Reddish is somehow 4th on the team in minutes right now.

If the goal of the Hawks was truly to put their best players on the floor, Reddish would be getting close to zero mpg right now. But Pierce and Schlenk are obviously thinking about a different direction.

[jayu70]

Name them. I'll wait.

Bembry, Carter, Turner can play the wing even though he’s been the b/u PG. They could also play Parker at SF if needed although I can understand not wanting to do that.

All of them are superior players to Reddish but as I said, he’s almost certainly getting these minutes because they’re invested in his development.

You obviously knew the answer to your own question, just please don’t come back with a response along the lines that Reddish is a better short term option than any of them.

My response is that you're just saying names and choosing to ignore the team's circumstances. They're not force-feeding the dude minutes, and keeping him ahead of guys, just because he was a FRP.

Carter is a 4, Turner is the backup 1. Bembry is getting as many minutes as the team can stomach.

That, plus Coach has said he prefers Bembry off the bench.

[jayu70]

Bembry, Carter, Turner can play the wing even though he’s been the b/u PG. They could also play Parker at SF if needed although I can understand not wanting to do that.

All of them are superior players to Reddish but as I said, he’s almost certainly getting these minutes because they’re invested in his development.

You obviously knew the answer to your own question, just please don’t come back with a response along the lines that Reddish is a better short term option than any of them.

My response is that you're just saying names and choosing to ignore the team's circumstances. They're not force-feeding the dude minutes, and keeping him ahead of guys, just because he was a FRP.

Carter is a 4, Turner is the backup 1. Bembry is getting as many minutes as the team can stomach.

Simply claiming that some players play different positions Isn’t a good argument. Even ignoring that we’re in the era of positionless basketball, all 3 of those players have played SF either in the current season or as recently as last season, and none of those players I listed have played some huge minute load thst couldn’t be increased if needed. Even Hunter, who I didn’t list, has only played 26 mpg and could soak up more minutes. Meanwhile Reddish is somehow 4th on the team in minutes right now.

If the goal of the Hawks was truly to put their best players on the floor, Reddish would be getting close to zero mpg right now. But Pierce and Schlenk are obviously thinking about a different direction.

The Goal of the Hawks, Schlenk and Pierce despite the wins and showing thus far has ALWAYS been to develop this young roster. Play hard, play and compete and if they win cool.
If the thought was different, they would have looked for a different starting C and backup PG.
Also note that, Turner was also limited with sore achilles, then sprained ankle.