Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

[Fairview4Life]

The Goal of the Hawks, Schlenk and Pierce despite the wins and showing thus far has ALWAYS been to develop this young roster. Play hard, play and compete and if they win cool.

That was the point.

[dakomish23]

Courtney Lee

Net rating for DAL lineups

Wright Lee Luka Kleber KP
-26.1 in 11 min

Brunson Lee Luka DFS KP
-60.9 in 5 min

That's 16 of the 22 mins he's played. Smalllllllllllllllllll sample size but it doesn't look great.

[CatgutStitches]

Duane Bacon is pretty terrible.

[CP War Hawks]

Children, please. None of them have anything on Bruce Brown.

I beg to differ. Brown at least has a respectable fg% (47.4%) and hits 50% of his threes.

No, no....Brown has one game where he wasnt completely trash and that was last night when he came off the bench. He went 3/3 from 3 last night, so the percentages arent accurate at all. Watch him, he's trash.

These people are looking at stats and not watching impact of the player. Red is not ready, but his length on defense actually helps this team compete.

Huerter missed all of training camp/preseason cause of knee pain. He'll get his spot back once he gets back in shape.

[kg01]

My response is that you're just saying names and choosing to ignore the team's circumstances. They're not force-feeding the dude minutes, and keeping him ahead of guys, just because he was a FRP.

Carter is a 4, Turner is the backup 1. Bembry is getting as many minutes as the team can stomach.

Simply claiming that some players play different positions Isn’t a good argument. Even ignoring that we’re in the era of positionless basketball, all 3 of those players have played SF either in the current season or as recently as last season, and none of those players I listed have played some huge minute load thst couldn’t be increased if needed. Even Hunter, who I didn’t list, has only played 26 mpg and could soak up more minutes. Meanwhile Reddish is somehow 4th on the team in minutes right now.

If the goal of the Hawks was truly to put their best players on the floor, Reddish would be getting close to zero mpg right now. But Pierce and Schlenk are obviously thinking about a different direction.

The Goal of the Hawks, Schlenk and Pierce despite the wins and showing thus far has ALWAYS been to develop this young roster. Play hard, play and compete and if they win cool.
If the thought was different, they would have looked for a different starting C and backup PG.
Also note that, Turner was also limited with sore achilles, then sprained ankle.

No jay, we're supposed to ignore circumstance just to try to "prove", after 3 games, that Reddish is a bust. smdh

[I_Like_Dirt]

No jay, we're supposed to ignore circumstance just to try to "prove", after 3 games, that Reddish is a bust. smdh

Apparently you're supposed to build a straw man and take everything personally as though people are arguing that Reddish is a bust rather than people arguing that he's being given minutes that his game doesn't necessarily warrant just yet regardless of whether he's a bust or not.

[Knicks7Tape]

Frank Ntilikina is allergic to scoring.

[abark]

Really? We're setting fire to rookies after 3 games? And doing so completely oblivious to the actual situation of the team whereby the dude is only starting because of minute restrictions on the usual starter?

Do better, OP.

The problem is he is the exact player he was at Duke. So many people made excuses for his sub 36% shooting percentage in college because he had to play third fiddle. Even though he was the same player while Zion was out.

As a Heat fan, I was so glad that teams were dumb enough to overlook his horrendous freshman year and rank him as a top ten prospect.

If he was even somewhat good at the college level, I would hold off on judgments because you are right that most rookies struggle (Herro hasn't been setting the world on fire yet).

But the real problem is that unlike every other first rounder, the last time he played at an acceptable level was high school. Can you name me any other lottery pick that had that bad a season the year before they entered the draft ever.

He wouldn't have even been looked at as a pro prospect yet if it he wasn't the number 3 ranked player coming out of high school.

And now I am still just seeing the same extremely low efficiency player that brings nothing else to the game besides defence.

I'm not saying he can't improve as a player. But his first few games do reinforce my opinion that his situation was not the problem at Duke.

The Hawks drafted a guy who shot horrendously in college and provided very little rebounding or playmaking at number 10. And surprise, that's what he is right now.

[Ball4life32]

Really? We're setting fire to rookies after 3 games? And doing so completely oblivious to the actual situation of the team whereby the dude is only starting because of minute restrictions on the usual starter?

Do better, OP.

The problem is he is the exact player he was at Duke. So many people made excuses for his sub 36% shooting percentage in college because he had to play third fiddle. Even though he was the same player while Zion was out.

As a Heat fan, I was so glad that teams were dumb enough to overlook his horrendous freshman year and rank him as a top ten prospect.

If he was even somewhat good at the college level, I would hold off on judgments because you are right that most rookies struggle (Herro hasn't been setting the world on fire yet).

But the real problem is that unlike every other first rounder, the last time he played at an acceptable level was high school.

I am still just seeing the same extremely low efficiency player that brings nothing else to the game besides some defence.

I'm not saying he can't improve as a player. But his first few games do reinforce my opinion that his situation was not the problem at Duke.

The Hawks drafted a guy who shot horrendously in college and provided very little rebounding or playmaking at number 10. And surprise, that's what he is right now.

Reddish shot a good amount more 3’s than 2’s at Duke which is a big reason for that %. Trae Young last year at one point was shooting 23% from 3 on 6 attempts per game...takes some time for some players to adjust to the NBA 3 point line.(Right now Reddish is 0/9). Still think he’s gonna be a good 3 point shooter in time and he’s definitely looked good defensively. We’ll just have to see.

[Myth]

I beg to differ. Brown at least has a respectable fg% (47.4%) and hits 50% of his threes.

No, no....Brown has one game where he wasnt completely trash and that was last night when he came off the bench. He went 3/3 from 3 last night, so the percentages arent accurate at all. Watch him, he's trash.

These people are looking at stats and not watching impact of the player. Red is not ready, but his length on defense actually helps this team compete.

Huerter missed all of training camp/preseason cause of knee pain. He'll get his spot back once he gets back in shape.

I've actually watched each Hawks game except last nights (one of which was against the Pistons). I've been tuning in for Trae. But outside of that, yes, I haven't seen every game of every team to say definitively who is the worst, so checking stats kind of has to be how we evaluate these things with such limited time into this season.

[jlokine]

crap on a guy who played 3 games? can we not wait at least like 20 games? wouldnt you the worst worker at your new work after 3 days?

[Ballerhogger]

He needs work on his form a lot. This was always a work in progress pick.. Give it to March

[abark]

crap on a guy who played 3 games? can we not wait at least like 20 games? wouldnt you the worst worker at your new work after 3 days?

It's not about the three games. He absolutely sucked in college too. This is just 3 more games of trash

[Buzzard]

At first glance I thought we went back in time to November of 2018 and this was a Trae Young thread.

[marco102]

crap on a guy who played 3 games? can we not wait at least like 20 games? wouldnt you the worst worker at your new work after 3 days?

It's not about the three games. He absolutely sucked in college too. This is just 3 more games of trash

Bruh. Did you See Giannis' first year? Did you see Kobe Bryant's first year? Did you see PG13's first year?

Some people take time. I'm not saying Cam Reddish is going to be some all start type player, but going off three game sample, when someone did not train during the summer due to recovering from a core injury, is just asinine. I get he had bad numbers in college. Okay?

You don't like Cam Reddish and that's cool. We are taking the wait and see approach. So far, he's been one of the better defensive players on our team. You'll find that out tonight when we play your team. He's rebounding pretty well. He's trying to figure out where to get his shot. The game is too fast for him at the moment.

He IS Not getting more minutes than he deserves during the season. He's around 22 minutes per game, which is a back up, but he's playing with our starters due to injury and his defensive presence.

Bookmark this and talk to me about Cam at the end of the season. I guarantee he will not be shooting 27% from the field and 0% from three.

[ItsThatEasy]

Meanwhile

No offense to you of course, and RJ is playing great, but this is exactly the kind of stat cherry picking that's ruining the league.

Why stop at 19 points? He didn't make it to 20/15/5 yet, ok, cool, maybe he still will. Singling out 19 is just corny.

[chrismikayla]

Coach Pierce and Travis Schlenk have earned the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

[jlokine]

crap on a guy who played 3 games? can we not wait at least like 20 games? wouldnt you the worst worker at your new work after 3 days?

It's not about the three games. He absolutely sucked in college too. This is just 3 more games of trash

jimmer fredette was .500 FG% 29ppg in 4th yr in college... adam morrison was 20 ppg in 3yrs, 28ppg in 3rd year, shooting .500...

if you are going to make conclusions based on a guy based off their college stats and 3 games in the nba, you are about as bad a skip bayless..

[iLLmatic860]

Meanwhile

No offense to you of course, and RJ is playing great, but this is exactly the kind of stat cherry picking that's ruining the league.

Why stop at 19 points? He didn't make it to 20/15/5 yet, ok, cool, maybe he still will. Singling out 19 is just corny.

I feel you im actually more impressed his rebounding and all strong he is for a 19 year old tbh. But yeah I see what your saying

[Buzzard]

crap on a guy who played 3 games? can we not wait at least like 20 games? wouldnt you the worst worker at your new work after 3 days?

It's not about the three games. He absolutely sucked in college too. This is just 3 more games of trash

His FG% sucked in college but his 3 PT% was .333 and he took 7.4 a game. He also shot .772 from the free throw line at just a little over 3 attempts per game.

I think Cam is going to be alright sooner or later; just like Trae Young was after November 2018.