2019 Regular Season

[hermes]

its not reasonable to expect any team to score 42 points a game, play perfect football and give 100% effort every time out. it just isn't. these are human beings, not robots we can't set our watch to expect a certain result each time - otherwise what would be the point?

sometimes people are going to have off-days, some games teams are going to have to grind out ugly wins and you just have to do enough to get by. its not always going to be pretty but all the wins count the same

Give it a rest with this meaningless stories and excuses.

If they called the same plays they did the week prior, the team would have easily put up 28-30 pts on the redskins. They were 1-6 for huge reasons. 42 points? Who expects that every game? Nice pie in the sky number to throw out there to suggest I'm demanding.

They did not call the same kinds of plays. Plain and simple. Stop making excuses.

We can go back to the Bears and Pack games and see the same garbage. Go to the wins and see how completely different it is. This has been a constant of Zimmer seasons since he got here.

yeah a couple early sacks and it was clear the pass protection wasn't going to be there and we should be applauding stefanski and co for recognizing it and making appropriate changes so they didn't get cousins killed. without changing the gameplan on the fly we probably have a repeat of the bears game (especially if keenum doesn't get hurt)

^ i acknowledged they called different plays - and they did it because the situation was different. they adapted and made adjustments

you can't do the same thing every week because teams will figure it out and stop it

[Worm Guts]

Three of the FGs were caused by a sack and two holding penalties. Considering the Vikings had 5 holding penalties, it’s a minor miracle to go the entire game without a punt.

Now it's a miracle. You two are the miracles.

Uh uh, no. I'm not discussing football with cheerleaders and robot excuse makers.

That would make me so happy.

[Jedzz]

yeah a couple early sacks and it was clear the pass protection wasn't going to be there and we should be applauding stefanski and co for recognizing it and making appropriate changes so they didn't get cousins killed. without changing the gameplan on the fly we probably have a repeat of the bears game (especially if keenum doesn't get hurt)

^ i acknowledged they called different plays - and they did it because the situation was different. they adapted and made adjustments

you can't do the same thing every week because teams will figure it out and stop it

Not the SAME THING. Just the same FORWARD direction of passing targets beyond the line of scrimmage. More passing targets per play and forward, not backwards.

-Yiou refuse to acknowledge the difference between calling 38 runs to 23 passes.
-You refuse to acknowledge the difference in amount of passing targets per play.
-You refuse to acknowledge the difference in throwing dump offs forward beyond the line being different than dump offs 5 to 7 yards behind the line.
-You refuse to acknowledge the really moronic play calls like ultra short dump offs on 2nd and 21 or runs up the middle on 3rd and 15.
-You refuse to acknowledge how a high preponderance of plays behind the line of scrimmage immediately leads to a defense smothering you with extra defenders in your backfield.

Therefore, I'm going to refuse to acknowledge you from now on. Ok?

[Jedzz]

Three of the FGs were caused by a sack and two holding penalties. Considering the Vikings had 5 holding penalties, it’s a minor miracle to go the entire game without a punt.

Now it's a miracle. You two are the miracles.

Uh uh, no. I'm not discussing football with cheerleaders and robot excuse makers.

That would make me so happy.

It's already making me happy. You two can sit here sharing pom poms with each other. When Zimmer ruins another season and another chance at earning a bye in the playoffs, or if he backs into the playoffs again and then gets stomped, you two can hug it out, tell each other lies to make it through another offseason waiting for the same problems to come back next season. Whatever floats your love boat.

[Worm Guts]

I think it’s fairly clear I don’t have no criticism of the Vikings, just different ones. You’re pretty hung up on Zimmer.

[Sedale Threatt]

Three of the FGs were caused by a sack and two holding penalties. Considering the Vikings had 5 holding penalties, it’s a minor miracle to go the entire game without a punt.

Now it's a miracle. You two are the miracles.

Uh uh, no. I'm not discussing football with cheerleaders and robot excuse makers.

lol, what makes you think anyone wants to discuss football with you in the first place? You're one of the most insufferable and miserable posters I've ever encountered in a decade-plus on Real GM. It doesn't matter because there are only a few people who even post here to begin with. But I don't think any of us would shed a tear if you vanished.

[hermes]

i feel better too. i'm very easy going so there's pretty much nothing that irritates me or gets under my skin but jedzz was starting too. i don't think i've ever met a more negative person in my life. i don't think he'll ever be happy with the performance of this team - especially after the three game stretch prior to washington where the team played nearly perfect offensive football (doing what he had been wanting for years!) and his only post was to wonder when it will all end. seems like he can only care when he can complain which is like the opposite of what sports fandom should be i think - just really bizarre

jedzz, i know it won't be with this team and maybe not even sports in general, but i hope you find some happiness. good luck man

worm, feel free to edit/remove any of this if it is considered attacking another poster or against the rules at all. this is just such an unusual situation for me

[Sedale Threatt]

i feel better too. i'm very easy going so there's pretty much nothing that irritates me or gets under my skin but jedzz was starting too. i don't think i've ever met a more negative person in my life. i don't think he'll ever be happy with the performance of this team - especially after the three game stretch prior to washington where the team played nearly perfect offensive football (doing what he had been wanting for years!) and his only post was to wonder when it will all end. seems like he can only care when he can complain which is like the opposite of what sports fandom should be i think - just really bizarre

jedzz, i know it won't be with this team and maybe not even sports in general, but i hope you find some happiness. good luck man

worm, feel free to edit/remove any of this if it is considered attacking another poster or against the rules at all. this is just such an unusual situation for me

I know, I was about to tell you to settle down. Conversely, I'm almost always the negative @sshole in any given situation. So if it was getting under my skin too...

[Jedzz]

Three of the FGs were caused by a sack and two holding penalties. Considering the Vikings had 5 holding penalties, it’s a minor miracle to go the entire game without a punt.

Now it's a miracle. You two are the miracles.

Uh uh, no. I'm not discussing football with cheerleaders and robot excuse makers.

lol, what makes you think anyone wants to discuss football with you in the first place? You're one of the most insufferable and miserable posters I've ever encountered in a decade-plus on Real GM. It doesn't matter because there are only a few people who even post here to begin with. But I don't think any of us would shed a tear if you vanished.

You don't post about Vikings football here. So why should I care what you think.

In fact, with no one posting here why should I care what anyone thinks? I don't. I'm just posting my opinions on this insufferable team. This coach ruins seasons every year pulling the rug out from under his own players and shortchanging all the fans that give them their time and money each season. It deserves to be posted somewhere, even if it's a forum no one reads.

Maybe 4 people, including me, have bothered posting here over the past year. I know one of them thinks just like me about most of this, but maybe he's not quite as "insufferable" or constant as me. These other two do nothing but cheerlead. Which would be fine, there are people that pay good money to do nothing but dance in the stands each game and don't care about winning or losing anything and it's fine.

But when they disagree with us posting, won't admit any truths while doing so, they are either baiting us to post more or just doing their cheerleader thing. Neither of which do I want to have anything to do with. Which is why I won't be responding to the guy named Sedale whoever any longer. But you can expect me to call out the Coach whenever I see him pulling the rug on the offense again. That's if I bother watching much anymore. I already dumped the last few Sundays. Thursday's game just happened to be on during our card games. Wish it wasn't. It's not worth watching when our tractor coach goes all field goal all day.

[Sedale Threatt]

Now it's a miracle. You two are the miracles.

Uh uh, no. I'm not discussing football with cheerleaders and robot excuse makers.

lol, what makes you think anyone wants to discuss football with you in the first place? You're one of the most insufferable and miserable posters I've ever encountered in a decade-plus on Real GM. It doesn't matter because there are only a few people who even post here to begin with. But I don't think any of us would shed a tear if you vanished.

You don't post about Vikings football here. So why should I care what you think.

In fact, with no one posting here why should I care what anyone thinks? I don't. I'm just posting my opinions on this insufferable team. This coach ruins seasons every year pulling the rug out from under his own players and shortchanging all the fans that give them their time and money each season. It deserves to be posted somewhere, even if it's a forum no one reads.

Maybe 4 people, including me, have bothered posting here over the past year. I know one of them thinks just like me about most of this, but maybe he's not quite as "insufferable" or constant as me. These other two do nothing but cheerlead. Which would be fine, there are people that pay good money to do nothing but dance in the stands each game and don't care about winning or losing anything and it's fine.

But when they disagree with us posting, won't admit any truths while doing so, they are either baiting us to post more or just doing their cheerleader thing. Neither of which do I want to have anything to do with. Which is why I won't be responding to the guy named Sedale whoever any longer. But you can expect me to call out the Coach whenever I see him pulling the rug on the offense again. That's if I bother watching much anymore. I already dumped the last few Sundays. Thursday's game just happened to be on during our card games. Wish it wasn't. It's not worth watching when our tractor coach goes all field goal all day.

blah blah blah blah blah blah

Nobody gives a sh*t.

[Jedzz]

blah blah blah blah blah blah

Nobody gives a sh*t.

And nobody cares what you say either. But I feel no reason on earth to try and stop you from saying anything. That's where we are different. Somehow the truth of these games seems to bother you.

The untruths about these games does bother me a bit, but when I realize I'm no longer discussing this with people that will see these games objectively, I'll let you know I'm no longer posting to you when I post here. I don't care if it comes off objectionably. As I said prior, I'm not interested in speaking to cheerleaders. If that bothers you, so be it.

[Worm Guts]

This team is 6-2 with 4 straight wins, the positive should outweigh the negative at this point.

[Duke4life831]

What do yall think about Trent Williams. I know it will be tough to pull off, but damn that would be a huge upgrade.

[Jedzz]

Don't take just my words for it. Colin Cowherd's words " I don't trust Minnesota whatsoever, not a bit. I don't care if they won last night."

"19-9 over awful Washington, banged up, fired their coach, injured QB..." Vikings with "great roster"...are "too environment based to be any kind of contender." "primetime, and couldn't put this team to bed until the end, couldn't do it." "I'm going to tell you what this team is. Uh, Mike Zimmer is conservative by nature." "...anything bad happens and he will just close it down, you will have no offense and in a conference where you have (lists 8 teams) humming, I don't buy Vikings. I just don't buy em."
https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1630681155832?utm_campaign=team_page&utm_medium=fscom&utm_source=main_content&utm_content=highlights
"last year 1 and 6 against playoff teams." "This year, zero wins against teams over .500."

32,31,31,24,33,16,9 That's what the Redskins have allowed. 24 to the 2-6 Giants. 16 to 0-6 Miami. The only good record team to play down to Redskins level was the almost equally illogical 49ers.

It's not just me being negative. It's your team's head coach being illogically conservative every season at his own whimsy that is destroying the Viking team's chance at growing into their best version throughout each season.

[Worm Guts]

Whether you’re right or wrong, we don’t need a 500 word essay about how Zimmer sucks every time the Vikings throw a screen pass.

[Jedzz]

Whether you’re right or wrong, we don’t need a 500 word essay about how Zimmer sucks every time the Vikings throw a screen pass.

Maybe you shouldn't disagree with hogwash every time I point out the coach is failing the team. I wouldn't have felt like I needed to expound.

It's not whether I'm right or wrong on this. I'm right and as you have said I went through the trouble to bother showing the evidence. The utterly sad part for me was that I only met one person willing to see the truth. The other two posters here just don't care about winning a football season. I found out they weren't football fans, just raw raw fans. It's a little bit of bad news when there are only 4 people that post here, and two of them would rather suggest I'm angry at life or that I am posting too many words than just admit your team's coach is enemy #1 by choice to the chance of this team ever becoming great.

[Jedzz]

Colin Cowherd FTW

Colin Cowherd 1, Zimmer 0. Your move Zimmer.

[Worm Guts]

Colin Cowherd FTW

Colin Cowherd 1, Zimmer 0. Your move Zimmer.

I can’t wait until you quote Skip Bayless next.

[Jedzz]

What do yall think about Trent Williams. I know it will be tough to pull off, but damn that would be a huge upgrade.

Was hoping this would happen as he's likely better then plenty on this squad. But then again they've had so many seasons of shuffling positions because of injuries or adding lineman mid season it's never really panned out.

[Jedzz]

Colin Cowherd FTW

Colin Cowherd 1, Zimmer 0. Your move Zimmer.

I can’t wait until you quote Skip Bayless next.

Well actually, Colin echoed my words that were already posted here long before. I quoted his similar stance for reference that I am not the only one seeing these issues and willing to speak out on them after a win no less. You may have no reason to listen to my words. But someone has been paying him for many years to speak out on what he sees from teams each season. He carries much more weight than you or I, for instance, in the ears of many that listen to him and in the minds of the Vikings owners when they hear of it.

These people don't talking about football like a couple of pom poms of a cheer squad might describe their team. I understand how that might seem strange to you. He's issued a warning more or less, to his listeners who may or may not look to the Vikings in varying ways for the rest of the season. There is glowing evidence and reasons not to trust in this coach to bring his teams' best game to the table each week.