Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft?

[King Ken]

Last year, early in the season, I would watch Trae Young and say he can be the best offensive player in the NBA and come here and y'all wannabes would tell me he is trash. The worst player in the NBA. He is Jimmer but frail who can pass.

Doncic - Trae will go down as the worst trade in NBA history. Trae is awful. He don't have no game. He can't shoot v. NBA defenses. His shot is broke. His shot is set and he is too small and his defense is ass. This is what the I don't watch the game geniuses of realgm told me about Trae Young. The worst Basketball minds I've seen anywhere. Sorry but most of y'all dogging Reddish don't really understand Basketball well at all like those dogging Trae Young in the 1st half of last year.

First off nobody on internet forums enjoys conversing with people who feel so disrespected all they so is complain about it.
you might feel the same way about these hawks players if you were not a devoted hawk follower but i doubt it.
i am the first to admit i was wrong about how well his court vision has transferred but it certainly was the one thing i thought Trae could maximize . but i avsolutely did not however think he could stay on the court as a chucker and 6'2" wingdpan defender. atl cant live without his distribution right now so they live with his circus shots and
poor ability on defense.
i will never back away from my take on his chucking from ludicrous low % distances having yo do with his low release .
as far as reddish i like to rile you up since you are basically his only true supporter these days.
take it with a grain of salt. everyone with a eye for talent sees the skill set is there, its just until he breaks down the demons that are distracting him
and made him the bust of highschool to college recruiting at duke of maybe the entire K run, he is a bust at the pro level for awhile anyway.
i think what you ignore is the big picture here:
young could have the same impact and consistency in the playoffs as he does up to now
but that in itself is the problem ...hes overrated.
odds are greater he is owner in a playoff setting against teams most lijely atv the top this season.
to be fair i see a lot of the sane problems facing CLE with Garland defensively and would be surprised if he busts as it pertains to his draft spot. im a little more optimistic on Garland because he has a +3 ws and tries hard on both sides of the ball but his defense is terrible
Sexton has already shown he has devoted his summer to upping his defense, totally different player in that regard, and as of this early date will push Garland to 6th man unless the Cavs go full tank again which honestly is looking less and less probable

Overall, this actually wasn't a terrible post from you, still wrong as ever but you actually avoided your usual hyperbole.

Yogi Ferrell, Aaron Holiday, Trey Burke and Jimmer Fredette. Always remember everything.

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*15&GroupQuantity=3&TeamID=1610612737

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612737&CF=MIN*G*4

Compared to the NBA starting lineups


https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*25

One of the best starting fives in the NBA with sufficating defense.

You got some cute comparisons for Reddish that I can use v. you this time next year?

[Stillwater]

Last year, early in the season, I would watch Trae Young and say he can be the best offensive player in the NBA and come here and y'all wannabes would tell me he is trash. The worst player in the NBA. He is Jimmer but frail who can pass.

Doncic - Trae will go down as the worst trade in NBA history. Trae is awful. He don't have no game. He can't shoot v. NBA defenses. His shot is broke. His shot is set and he is too small and his defense is ass. This is what the I don't watch the game geniuses of realgm told me about Trae Young. The worst Basketball minds I've seen anywhere. Sorry but most of y'all dogging Reddish don't really understand Basketball well at all like those dogging Trae Young in the 1st half of last year.

First off nobody on internet forums enjoys conversing with people who feel so disrespected all they so is complain about it.
you might feel the same way about these hawks players if you were not a devoted hawk follower but i doubt it.
i am the first to admit i was wrong about how well his court vision has transferred but it certainly was the one thing i thought Trae could maximize . but i avsolutely did not however think he could stay on the court as a chucker and 6'2" wingdpan defender. atl cant live without his distribution right now so they live with his circus shots and
poor ability on defense.
i will never back away from my take on his chucking from ludicrous low % distances having yo do with his low release .
as far as reddish i like to rile you up since you are basically his only true supporter these days.
take it with a grain of salt. everyone with a eye for talent sees the skill set is there, its just until he breaks down the demons that are distracting him
and made him the bust of highschool to college recruiting at duke of maybe the entire K run, he is a bust at the pro level for awhile anyway.
i think what you ignore is the big picture here:
young could have the same impact and consistency in the playoffs as he does up to now
but that in itself is the problem ...hes overrated.
odds are greater he is owner in a playoff setting against teams most lijely atv the top this season.
to be fair i see a lot of the sane problems facing CLE with Garland defensively and would be surprised if he busts as it pertains to his draft spot. im a little more optimistic on Garland because he has a +3 ws and tries hard on both sides of the ball but his defense is terrible
Sexton has already shown he has devoted his summer to upping his defense, totally different player in that regard, and as of this early date will push Garland to 6th man unless the Cavs go full tank again which honestly is looking less and less probable

Overall, this actually wasn't a terrible post from you, still wrong as ever but you actually avoided your usual hyperbole.

Yogi Ferrell, Aaron Holiday, Trey Burke and Jimmer Fredette. Always remember everything.

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*15&GroupQuantity=3&TeamID=1610612737

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612737&CF=MIN*G*4

Compared to the NBA starting lineups


https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*25

One of the best starting fives in the NBA with sufficating defense.

You got some cute comparisons for Reddish that I can use v. you this time next year?

good for you ,you can research old posts...
i will concede the hawks have given him far more of a green light than he deserves but i still think he is no better at basketball than any of those comparisons as far as trusting him against defenses that care...aka playoff defenses
i git some comparisons for reddish but they were undrafted..lol

[King Ken]

First off nobody on internet forums enjoys conversing with people who feel so disrespected all they so is complain about it.
you might feel the same way about these hawks players if you were not a devoted hawk follower but i doubt it.
i am the first to admit i was wrong about how well his court vision has transferred but it certainly was the one thing i thought Trae could maximize . but i avsolutely did not however think he could stay on the court as a chucker and 6'2" wingdpan defender. atl cant live without his distribution right now so they live with his circus shots and
poor ability on defense.
i will never back away from my take on his chucking from ludicrous low % distances having yo do with his low release .
as far as reddish i like to rile you up since you are basically his only true supporter these days.
take it with a grain of salt. everyone with a eye for talent sees the skill set is there, its just until he breaks down the demons that are distracting him
and made him the bust of highschool to college recruiting at duke of maybe the entire K run, he is a bust at the pro level for awhile anyway.
i think what you ignore is the big picture here:
young could have the same impact and consistency in the playoffs as he does up to now
but that in itself is the problem ...hes overrated.
odds are greater he is owner in a playoff setting against teams most lijely atv the top this season.
to be fair i see a lot of the sane problems facing CLE with Garland defensively and would be surprised if he busts as it pertains to his draft spot. im a little more optimistic on Garland because he has a +3 ws and tries hard on both sides of the ball but his defense is terrible
Sexton has already shown he has devoted his summer to upping his defense, totally different player in that regard, and as of this early date will push Garland to 6th man unless the Cavs go full tank again which honestly is looking less and less probable

Overall, this actually wasn't a terrible post from you, still wrong as ever but you actually avoided your usual hyperbole.

Yogi Ferrell, Aaron Holiday, Trey Burke and Jimmer Fredette. Always remember everything.

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*15&GroupQuantity=3&TeamID=1610612737

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612737&CF=MIN*G*4

Compared to the NBA starting lineups


https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*25

One of the best starting fives in the NBA with sufficating defense.

You got some cute comparisons for Reddish that I can use v. you this time next year?

good for you ,you can research old posts...
i will concede the hawks have given him far more of a green light than he deserves but i still think he is no better at basketball than any of those comparisons as far as trusting him against defenses that care...aka playoff defenses
i git some comparisons for reddish but they were undrafted..lol

Lol, no matter how wrong you are, still love you bro. That said, let's address your post.

Bro, you know Trae is an impossible cover. Why do you continue to pass this idea that Trae is just scoring because of a green light instead of him simply being extremely skilled and having exceptional talent is beyond me?

Defensively, Trae defense has significantly improved but let's be realistic. The Hawks have Cam and DeAndre protecting him at all times. When he plays with some of the others, his defense isn't that good. That said, he is fighting through screens, his lateral quickness is good, his defensive BBIQ has been much improved and his steals rate has gone up a lot. He is getting a lot of defections, charges and he is pesky on defense.

But with Kevin Huerter, maybe his defense takes a step back as the length and court gets too large and his defensive strengths kinda go away and his lack of size shows up. One of the issues I've seen so far this season.

[clyde21]

NAW: 15pts / 4rebs / 9asts / 1stl

Hayes: 19pts / 3rebs / 1ast / 1stl / 1blk

did you see the game? it was garbage time for like 75% of it and the Warriors played 6-6 Green, Spellman and Chriss at Center, 0 conclussions to draw from that one

true, stats are for sure inflated, but they still looked good...Jaxson looks incredibly bouncy, more so than he did at Texas, and NAW put on some sick moves in ISO (albeit against G League talent like Lee)

[Stillwater]

Overall, this actually wasn't a terrible post from you, still wrong as ever but you actually avoided your usual hyperbole.

Yogi Ferrell, Aaron Holiday, Trey Burke and Jimmer Fredette. Always remember everything.

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*15&GroupQuantity=3&TeamID=1610612737

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612737&CF=MIN*G*4

Compared to the NBA starting lineups


https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&CF=MIN*G*25

One of the best starting fives in the NBA with sufficating defense.

You got some cute comparisons for Reddish that I can use v. you this time next year?

good for you ,you can research old posts...
i will concede the hawks have given him far more of a green light than he deserves but i still think he is no better at basketball than any of those comparisons as far as trusting him against defenses that care...aka playoff defenses
i git some comparisons for reddish but they were undrafted..lol

Lol, no matter how wrong you are, still love you bro. That said, let's address your post.

Bro, you know Trae is an impossible cover. Why do you continue to pass this idea that Trae is just scoring because of a green light instead of him simply being extremely skilled and having exceptional talent is beyond me?

.

I don't question his skill, I question his skill when it matters most... I think he will absolutely struggle against playoff defenses and the notion he is an impossible cover is really, him not being defended because teams don't care if he chucks his low % bombs in the regular season I think they would live with that by staying committed to their man and making him have to beat them by himself.

his defense is atrocious

[clyde21]

White Drip 19 points in a quarter

[clyde21]

Cam is so frustrating, he's such an effortless athlete, just glides on the court for someone his size, but anytime he's asked to multi task he completely shuts down and can't operate

[King Ken]

Cam is so frustrating, he's such an effortless athlete, just glides on the court for someone his size, but anytime he's asked to multi-task he completely shuts down and can't operate

He was ass tonight. On both ends of the floor. Worst game of his career. Only positives were he didn't look awful as a primary ball-handler. Flashed potential. When I see him get three steals and recover 3 loose balls, I don't look at it like damn, he was balling on defense. I wonder what the hell did he do wrong where his defense wasn't enough. Tough night. Hunter was awful too. First B2B and no Trae just rained on the youngins but it happens. They are rookies. The Hawks need to figure out what lineup to use v. Bam/Leonard. It seems Collins/Parker works v. them because it doesn't put Len on an island.

Your boy Herro is such a freakin flopper. It ruins the good he does with his shot for me. I hate how him and Dragic were flopping like some damn fish.

All in all, Herro seems to have our number. w/ or w/o Trae. He was tough to guard with the 2nd unit. He got hot scoring on Kevin, I'mma go under the screens ass and Cam missed like three assignments in a row on his ass. With Hunter and Bruno, swordfish was flopping his ass off. It was a joke. This game was just awful. The only thing I can take away from this is our press coverage might have legs due to our length, anticipation and athleticism.

Multi-tasking ain't the issue. It's execution. That's the issue. Reddish just lacks too much damn polish as he's raw. These things improve and improve fast with NBA coaching. I remember how raw Trae was at this time last year. The fact that Cam outside of today been a top-notch defender gives me a lot of hope. His movement off the ball was the norm for him. He always moves off the ball well. Hunter on the other hand just looked worn out. He had the assignment of Simmons last night so he just didn't have the energy tonight. He was just exhausted. A lot of guys were.

[clyde21]

Bruno Fernando is #1 in BPM out of any rookie so far with at least 25 minutes

[King Ken]

Bruno Fernando is #1 in BPM out of any rookie so far with at least 25 minutes

Raw, extremely raw but he is someone we hope is like our Bam Adebayo

[clyde21]

PJ: 23pts / 8rebs / 3asts on 10-13 shooting

Paschall: 20 pts / 4rebs / 2blks on 7-9 shooting

Rui: 23pts / 5rebs on 9-15 shooting

[clyde21]

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[clyde21]

Paschall another 25 pts tonight

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Not this guy (yet...):

Spoiler:

Bol Bol (foot) admitted that he has not been cleared for the preseason and is unsure if or when he'll play in the G-League during his rookie year.

This is a pretty abrupt departure from what Bol was saying leading up to and after the draft, but it sounds like the 19-year-old might be in line for a redshirt year, which is what we expected. He's not worth drafting in any re-draft format.

[clyde21]

Not this guy (yet...):

Spoiler:

Bol Bol (foot) admitted that he has not been cleared for the preseason and is unsure if or when he'll play in the G-League during his rookie year.

This is a pretty abrupt departure from what Bol was saying leading up to and after the draft, but it sounds like the 19-year-old might be in line for a redshirt year, which is what we expected. He's not worth drafting in any re-draft format.

no need to force him back at this point, they're taking a slow approach like with MPjr...won't get minutes anyways with Jokic, Millsap, Pumlee and Grant in the front court.

[Marcus]

Not this guy (yet...):

Spoiler:

Bol Bol (foot) admitted that he has not been cleared for the preseason and is unsure if or when he'll play in the G-League during his rookie year.

This is a pretty abrupt departure from what Bol was saying leading up to and after the draft, but it sounds like the 19-year-old might be in line for a redshirt year, which is what we expected. He's not worth drafting in any re-draft format.

no need to force him back at this point, they're taking a slow approach like with MPjr...won't get minutes anyways with Jokic, Millsap, Pumlee and Grant in the front court.

yeah i think Denver is good spot for him given the circumstances. No expectations so he can take his time and its all beneficial for the team to move at that rate and bring him back once he's completely ready.

[justme400e]

Paschall another 25 pts tonight

Sure would be nice to have a couple of the kids exceed expectations for The Dubs after the injury tsunami.

[clyde21]

Rui mid range J lookin smooth, nice elevation

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[ThunderBolt]

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Bazley has been a nice surprise but man he’s so raw. He plows over his defender and loses the ball and instead of getting back on defense he apologizes and helps the opposing player back up. But he’s got some nice instincts and passing ability.

[clyde21]

Paschall 17 pts in the 1st quarter lol