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Post#161 » by Baphomet » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:19 pm

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Baphomet wrote:Pulisic having a blinder today, hat-trick with over half an hour to go


Definitely looking good. Really like this Chelsea team. James, Tomori, Mount, Abraham, Hudson Odoi and Pulisic is a very good group of young players to build around.


The transfer ban has forced them to consolidate the players they already have, many of which were returning loanees. In some ways, the ban could be a boon for them long-term if these young players pan out. I've liked Mount for a good while, he's got bags of quality.
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Post#162 » by Slim Charlez » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:25 pm

Tottenham at least showing fight today. It was going to be almost impossible to get something at Anfailed but they could've grabbed a point if they had a little bit more luck. Lo Celso needs to come in for either one of Eriksen or Alli who offer absolutely nothing.
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Post#163 » by HIF » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:27 pm

I guess Liverpool deserved the win but only because Spurs stopped attacking until they went behind. Another Pool penalty but this more deserved than the Leicester one.

Eriksen should have been subbed at half time he was poor. Moura is so much better. Alli wasn't too good either. Alexander Arnold man of the match but Spurs didn't make him defend enough.

Was hoping for a draw so Leicester could pull a little closer ;-)
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Post#164 » by Baphomet » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:31 pm

Liverpool did deserve the win on their first half showing, but it's still frustrating to lose from a winning position yet again. I don't know what Gazzaniga was doing for the penalty either, he was wrong footed somehow. Wasn't a vintage penalty by Salah by any means.

Eriksen's been a passenger lately and simply needs to go. He's given a lot for the club over the last 5 or so years but due to his circumstances he's become a useless player at this point, unfortunately.

Also I just want to add that I can't stand Jordan Henderson, the gobby nonce.
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Post#165 » by The_Brecht » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Robbed again.
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Post#166 » by HIF » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:57 pm

The_Brecht wrote:Robbed again.


Where has your Arsenal badge gone?

Problem with Arsenal is that they defensively they've got more holes than a sieve.
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Post#167 » by The_Brecht » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:41 pm

HIF wrote:
The_Brecht wrote:Robbed again.


Where has your Arsenal badge gone?

Problem with Arsenal is that they defensively they've got more holes than a sieve.


Didn't even notice it changed to the Anderlecht badge.
Emery doesn't see that the partnership Xhaka - Guendouzi simply does not work.

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Post#168 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:05 am

Baphomet wrote:Liverpool did deserve the win on their first half showing, but it's still frustrating to lose from a winning position yet again. I don't know what Gazzaniga was doing for the penalty either, he was wrong footed somehow. Wasn't a vintage penalty by Salah by any means.

Eriksen's been a passenger lately and simply needs to go. He's given a lot for the club over the last 5 or so years but due to his circumstances he's become a useless player at this point, unfortunately.

Also I just want to add that I can't stand Jordan Henderson, the gobby nonce.

Gazzaniga was really good. He should start over Lloris. Dude was brilliant.

I was really impressed by Spurs in the 1st Half. 2nd Half Liverpool we're clearly the better side. But, I think Spurs we're a little unfortunate to not draw. GG
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Post#169 » by HIF » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:38 am

So it seems that half the so called BIG 6 teams are unhappy with their coaches and looking at making changes.

Do they realise that if there was a BIG 6 then that means 2 of them don't make the CL anyway? Do they realise that if one other team has a good season maybe 3 of them don't make the CL or one of them don't even make Europe?

It doesn't matter how good these teams are England is a well balanced league and 6 into 4 doesn't go. They build up these situations which end up destroying them.

And then it's the merry go round for the "Great coaches" just like it's a merry go round for the "keep them up" coaches at the other end of the prem.

Expectations are set too high and therefore every year at least 2 of them are going to fail.
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Post#170 » by The_Brecht » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:43 pm

Here's my view on the Xhaka situation.

First of all, I want to state that in my opinion it's never okay to boo your own players.
Nobody will play better after such treatment. On the other hand Xhaka shouldn't have reacted the way he did, it's just dumb and won't help his popularity, which is low no mather what.

On that note I blame Emery for this situation. He's been sticking with the duo Guendouzi-Xhaka even though everybody can see it just doesn't work. That pairing doesn't provide cover for our weak backline. Their best games were with a real defensive midfielder, like Torreira. Even though Emery sets a defensive side, we're allowing chance after chance. It's mindblowing.
On the attacking side of things we don't have a plan at all. We're living by grace of a touch of class by one of our attackers.
At home we're often playing with three controlling midfielders and four at the back. Just hoping that Ceballos/Pepe/Laca or Aubameyang scores a banger.

In my eyes he's done and I believe he lost the dressing room. His treatment of certain players is just weird. You're surviving such things if the results are there, but when things go wrong, such things will break you.
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Post#171 » by HIF » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:03 pm

The_Brecht wrote:Here's my view on the Xhaka situation.

First of all, I want to state that in my opinion it's never okay to boo your own players.
Nobody will play better after such treatment. On the other hand Xhaka shouldn't have reacted the way he did, it's just dumb and won't help his popularity, which is low no mather what.

On that note I blame Emery for this situation. He's been sticking with the duo Guendouzi-Xhaka even though everybody can see it just doesn't work. That pairing doesn't provide cover for our weak backline. Their best games were with a real defensive midfielder, like Torreira. Even though Emery sets a defensive side, we're allowing chance after chance. It's mindblowing.
On the attacking side of things we don't have a plan at all. We're living by grace of a touch of class by one of our attackers.
At home we're often playing with three controlling midfielders and four at the back. Just hoping that Ceballos/Pepe/Laca or Aubameyang scores a banger.

In my eyes he's done and I believe he lost the dressing room. His treatment of certain players is just weird. You're surviving such things if the results are there, but when things go wrong, such things will break you.


It's an interesting take. Personally I don't like Emery - just because he has the most bizzare facial expressions during a match - I think he was wrongly judged at PSG where he was doing an okay job but where the expectations are just too high. Money can't always buy you everything. At Arsenal I just don't understand his buys, everyone knew that he needed defence, yet he didn't get it. Is that down to him or is someone else pulling the strings?

He has had balls to drop Ozil. Ozil hasn't performed at Arsenal since he arrived apart from on a few occasions. I'm guessing again that someone else loves Ozil and that's why he got the new contract - crazy, Ozil isn't going to leave because he won't even get half the salary anywhere else now and he has no ambition. Xhaka was another terrible buy from before Emery's time, I've never seen the guy have a good game and he's always likely to make a mistake that costs a goal. Why is he captain? Apparently the players like him - I don't know why. They need some hard love and a captain who will call them out in the dressing room whilst backing the manager. Great frontline which is always going to score but if I was Aubameyang or Lacazette I'd be looking at getting a transfer to a team that is playing in the CL - still it's not so easy to find good teams that pay the kind of money they are on. They could go to Manure but it's even worse there.

Emery getting the sack won't really change anything will it? Like Manure the rot has set in and a broom is needed to remove the cancer which probably starts with whoever is agreeing contracts with these players. The problem for Arsenal is that they don't even have the cachet of Manure. Wenger got them top players but whoever they bring in will need to be able to do the same and I can't see who that could be. If Arsenal miss out on European football - unlikely but possible this season - the end of the road as a"big" team could be in sight.
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Post#172 » by The_Brecht » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:26 pm

Rumours of Mourinho wanting the job at Arsenal.
I wouldn't even say no at this point...
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Post#173 » by Baphomet » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:10 pm

Just posting to show appreciation for the ridiculously epic game between Liverpool and Arsenal in the League Cup right now. 4-5 to Arsenal as it stands, some screamers and howlers scored so far.
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Post#174 » by The_Brecht » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:32 pm

Baphomet wrote:Just posting to show appreciation for the ridiculously epic game between Liverpool and Arsenal in the League Cup right now. 4-5 to Arsenal as it stands, some screamers and howlers scored so far.


Midweek football at it's finest.
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Post#175 » by Foye » Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:45 pm

Martinelli is pretty good other than you should not put him in your own penalty area.
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Post#176 » by The_Brecht » Sat Nov 2, 2019 2:59 pm

A must win or else Unai is gone.
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Post#177 » by HIF » Sun Nov 3, 2019 8:11 am

The_Brecht wrote:A must win or else Unai is gone.


Well he played Ozil and had Lacazette and Obamayeng up front. And still didn't get the win.

It was looking like a good day for the chasing teams until the end of Man city and Liverpool games. Now Leicester have got to go out and do it again this afternoon. Palace away is a tough one.
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Post#178 » by HIF » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:56 pm

Leicester are looking good. We need to keep winning.

I can see Liverpool dropping games as the schedule gets heavy. Klopp just hasn't picked up enough players to survive the onslaught, Pep has planned for these problems but does he have the defence.
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Post#179 » by Baphomet » Mon Nov 4, 2019 12:33 am

That was an ugly game at Goodison between Spurs and Everton. Poor play, dead atmosphere, countless VAR stoppages, a horror injury on Andre Gomes, and Son being undeservedly sent off. Of course, with the resulting mass of injury time, Spurs inevitably conceded during it and lost their lead. A terrible watch.
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Post#180 » by danfantastk32 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 5:31 am

Liverpool need to stop with this 'final moments' BS. You pulled it out of the bag a good 4 or so times this season. Time to start playing better, and dominating. Unfortunately, I think HIF hit the nail on the head: Klopp essentially brought in nobody. The games are going to come in droves in Dec and Jan....and I see us getting gassed, and eventually falling behind City. It's all over but the crying, after that....ala last season.

Huge game next weekend. Gotta win, and get that lead back up.

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