Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread Part 3

[jayu70]

Randle is a liability on defense at the 5 and with JC already at the 4 you need someone who is solid there instead of being played out of position.

And that isn't even mentioning his contract.

Taj Gibson is pretty gritty defensively, would you trade that OKC 1st (essentially 2 seconds) in a Taj Gibson and Elfrid Payton for Evan Turner?

He is not a real center. You must remember, we are looking for a center to play next to undersized John Collins and cover for him. He has to have a legit NBA center size. While I don't want him, what about Mitchell Robinson and his price tag? He isn't the center we have in mind but I am just curious to see how much you value him?

Agree with Ken regarding Taj.and what our C need is.

[NYG]

Randle is a liability on defense at the 5 and with JC already at the 4 you need someone who is solid there instead of being played out of position.

And that isn't even mentioning his contract.

Taj Gibson is pretty gritty defensively, would you trade that OKC 1st (essentially 2 seconds) in a Taj Gibson and Elfrid Payton for Evan Turner?

He is not a real center. You must remember, we are looking for a center to play next to undersized John Collins and cover for him. He has to have a legit NBA center size. While I don't want him, what about Mitchell Robinson and his price tag? He isn't the center we have in mind but I am just curious to see how much you value him?

Robinson is in that weird category where we value him more than his trade value most likely.

[kg01]

First, I'm not sure Printz has any leg to stand on to make any demands like Hield is here.

Second, things are getting out of hand when dudes like Buddy freaking Hield are making threats like this. If I were SAC, I'd call his bluff.

Dude's pretty good, but he ain't that good. Imminently replaceable.

Am I off on that?

I see Hield as a fringe-All Star a la Khris Middleton. Isn't good enough to be a lead dog, but can swing a playoff series in your direction playing next to a top player.

I think Milwaukee would have been a good place for him had that team not overspent on Khris and Eric Bledsoe.

That 2016 summer of massive overpay I think still lingers in a lot of guys minds.

A lot of cats thinking: "If Kent Bazemore can get $17+ million per season as a below-average backup player...I should be able to get waaaaaay more than that as an above average starter."

"If THJ can get $18 million per year as a sub-par starter...I can get waaaaaay more than that."

"If Malcolm Brogdon can get $21+ million per year as an over-achieving sixth man...I should be getting waaaaaay more than that."



NOTE: If Taurean was still here, entrenched as a starter and not making progress on a long term deal, I do think he would start rumbling a bit for some type of commitment. Perhaps not as abrasively.

Haywood on NBARadio said something this morning that blew my mind .... Buddy Hield is older than Bradley Beal. He's lucky they offered what they did. He's had 1 good year, mayne!

[Jamaaliver]

Haywood on NBARadio said something this morning that blew my mind .... Buddy Hield is older than Bradley Beal. He's lucky they offered what they did. He's had 1 good year, mayne!

Yeah, I think that plays into the calculus. He's about to be 27 years old still playing on a rookie scale contract. This is likely his one shot at a fat, long term deal. I don't blame him for seeking out a huge deal as it's likely the only one he'll ever get in his career.

The way he's going about it, though...is ill-advised. ---->Especially as a modestly talented player.

[kg01]

Haywood on NBARadio said something this morning that blew my mind .... Buddy Hield is older than Bradley Beal. He's lucky they offered what they did. He's had 1 good year, mayne!

Yeah, I think that plays into the calculus. He's about to be 27 years old still playing on a rookie scale contract. This is likely his one shot at a fat, long term deal. I don't blame him for seeking out a huge deal as it's likely the only one he'll ever get in his career.

The way he's going about it, though...is ill-advised. ---->Especially as a modestly talented player.

Agree with all the above. Quick, say something we can fight about.

On another SAC note, is Giles get-able? I loved his attitude when they played us last year. Played with an edge, played hard. He seemed injury-free(ish) so perhaps he's past his issues.

Just looking for out-of-box C options.

[jayu70]

What would you trade for him?

NBA Trade Rumors: Pacers Engaged in Talks to Deal Domantas Sabonis

ADAM WELLS
OCTOBER 18, 2019

Heading into the final season of his rookie contract, Indiana Pacers center Domantas Sabonis is being shopped in trade talks. 

Per The Athletic's Sam Amick, the Pacers "have engaged in active trade talks with several teams this week" since they remain "far apart" in contract talks with Sabonis. 

Amick did note Indiana's asking price "has been too high" to make a deal work thus far.

[King Ken]

My guess is it's not happening. I can't see us being interested in anything beyond the Nets 1st and I can't see them being interested in that for Sabonis.

[Jamaaliver]

any THOUGHTS ON OBTAINING BOGDAN?

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[kg01]

Nice player but seems like he'll be overpaid ... plus we'd be spending asset(s) to get him.

Seems like the definition of accelerating our rebuild, no?

[NYG]

Would you add a Top 10 Protected 1st (stays Top 10 in 2021, Top 5 2022 and conveys unconditionally in 2023) to Alex Len for Mo Bamba or is Nets pick about as far as you would go.

Huge swing for the fences that has a ceiling of a near perfect fit.

[jayu70]

Would you add a Top 10 Protected 1st (stays Top 10 in 2021, Top 5 2022 and conveys unconditionally in 2023) to Alex Len for Mo Bamba or is Nets pick about as far as you would go.

Huge swing for the fences that has a ceiling of a near perfect fit.

Nets pick only, but I'd even include OKCs 2022 1st if needed. Bamba still seems lost to me.
Schlenk doesn't seem to be a GM that would tie up a 1st that long for still such a young team.

[NYG]

Would you add a Top 10 Protected 1st (stays Top 10 in 2021, Top 5 2022 and conveys unconditionally in 2023) to Alex Len for Mo Bamba or is Nets pick about as far as you would go.

Huge swing for the fences that has a ceiling of a near perfect fit.

Nets pick only, but I'd even include OKCs 2022 1st if needed. Bamba still seems lost to me.
Schlenk doesn't seem to be a GM that would tie up a 1st that long for still such a young team.

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Let's see how it goes over on the T&T Board

[jayu70]

Would you add a Top 10 Protected 1st (stays Top 10 in 2021, Top 5 2022 and conveys unconditionally in 2023) to Alex Len for Mo Bamba or is Nets pick about as far as you would go.

Huge swing for the fences that has a ceiling of a near perfect fit.

Nets pick only, but I'd even include OKCs 2022 1st if needed. Bamba still seems lost to me.
Schlenk doesn't seem to be a GM that would tie up a 1st that long for still such a young team.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1902585

Let's see how it goes over on the T&T Board

doubt it goes well.

[Hoopz Afrik]

Just saw an article on Bleacher Report that had Andre Drummond as a potential target for your squad. I think that would be an intriguing fit for you guys.

[Jamaaliver]

Just saw an article on Bleacher Report that had Andre Drummond as a potential target for your squad. I think that would be an intriguing fit for you guys.

While I like the idea of adding Drummond to this squad, I can't imagine any scenarios where we would trade an asset of value for a guy we could sign in Free Agency next summer.

Spoiler:

1 Player Every NBA Team Should Already Be Targeting for a Trade

Atlanta Hawks: Andre Drummond



Teams around the league should be keeping an eye on the Detroit Pistons, who FiveThirtyEight currently forecasts to finish well shy of a playoff spot.

If things continue to go poorly in the Motor City, a fire sale might be in order.

The two biggest targets would be Andre Drummond and Blake Griffin. With contention nowhere in sight, do the Pistons really want to be on the hook for Drummond's next big contract?

The center has a player option worth $28.8 million for next season, but with a dearth of top-tier free agents on the market this summer, he's likely to turn that down.

The Atlanta Hawks could justify re-signing Drummond to a monster deal (after trading for him, of course).

Trae Young looks like the game's next great point guard. While he already has a good pick-and-roll partner in John Collins, Atlanta looks committed to keeping him at the 4.

Drummond would be a monumental upgrade over Alex Len at the 5. And his efficiency could get a huge boost playing alongside Young. He's never had a point guard with Young's vision and passing ability.

Logistically, Atlanta has one of the best trade chips in the market in Chandler Parsons' expiring contract. That and one intriguing young player like De'Andre Hunter would satisfy league trade rules.

Bleacher Report

[Hoopz Afrik]

Just saw an article on Bleacher Report that had Andre Drummond as a potential target for your squad. I think that would be an intriguing fit for you guys.

While I like the idea of adding Drummond to this squad, I can't imagine any scenarios where we would trade an asset of value for a guy we could sign in Free Agency next summer.

Spoiler:

1 Player Every NBA Team Should Already Be Targeting for a Trade

Atlanta Hawks: Andre Drummond



Teams around the league should be keeping an eye on the Detroit Pistons, who FiveThirtyEight currently forecasts to finish well shy of a playoff spot.

If things continue to go poorly in the Motor City, a fire sale might be in order.

The two biggest targets would be Andre Drummond and Blake Griffin. With contention nowhere in sight, do the Pistons really want to be on the hook for Drummond's next big contract?

The center has a player option worth $28.8 million for next season, but with a dearth of top-tier free agents on the market this summer, he's likely to turn that down.

The Atlanta Hawks could justify re-signing Drummond to a monster deal (after trading for him, of course).

Trae Young looks like the game's next great point guard. While he already has a good pick-and-roll partner in John Collins, Atlanta looks committed to keeping him at the 4.

Drummond would be a monumental upgrade over Alex Len at the 5. And his efficiency could get a huge boost playing alongside Young. He's never had a point guard with Young's vision and passing ability.

Logistically, Atlanta has one of the best trade chips in the market in Chandler Parsons' expiring contract. That and one intriguing young player like De'Andre Hunter would satisfy league trade rules.

Bleacher Report

That is a very good point. That does you all no good. I do hope that there will be mutual interest because it would definitely be exciting to watch and gives John Collins some cover. Also, his work on the offensive boards alone would help improve your squad by leaps and bounds.

[King Ken]

We aren't in position to trade for anyone at this moment who is a FA next year. We don't have any assets at all. All of our assets are not available. Young players and 1st rounders.

I am open to a 2nd round pick and Parsons for LaMarcus Aldridge deal. That would help us a ton.

[kg01]

We aren't in position to trade for anyone at this moment who is a FA next year. We don't have any assets at all. All of our assets are not available. Young players and 1st rounders.

I am open to a 2nd round pick and Parsons for LaMarcus Aldridge deal. That would help us a ton.

Eggsplain this one. Not arguing, just asking. Seems like a good stopgap until Collins gets back but not sure how he'd be helpful after that. Why not the same type of deal for Tristan T/Della?

Agree with you all on Drummmmmmond. Just wait 'til the offseason if'n you want him.

[jayu70]

We aren't in position to trade for anyone at this moment who is a FA next year. We don't have any assets at all. All of our assets are not available. Young players and 1st rounders.

I am open to a 2nd round pick and Parsons for LaMarcus Aldridge deal. That would help us a ton.

Eggsplain this one. Not arguing, just asking. Seems like a good stopgap until Collins gets back but not sure how he'd be helpful after that. Why not the same type of deal for Tristan T/Della?

Agree with you all on Drummmmmmond. Just wait 'til the offseason if'n you want him.

I don't get this LMA idea. Plus he will be 35 next season and due $24 mil next season.
Supes is trying to protect his 44 win projection.

[King Ken]

LMA is protect the paint and rim defensively, he can score on the block, mid range and he sets great screens. I used to have issues considering our blistering pace but we don't play fast anymore.

I just think he is a good center. Not very good anymore but just good. Not to mention, he is cheap. A 2nd round pick isn't that much